The Light in Every Thing

In this summer repeat, Patrick and Jonah continue their conversation on heaven and hell by exploring the “three heavens”: the primal heaven from which we come and to which we return in sleep and death, the hidden kingdom of heaven now present on earth through Christ, and the future New Jerusalem toward which creation is moving.
Together they ask what it means that Christ is “the Lord of the heavenly forces upon earth,” and why the earth is the place where human freedom, moral responsibility, and sacrificial love can truly awaken. The conversation moves through the mystery of death, near-death experience, the soul’s journey, reincarnation, purification, and the ongoing work of becoming human beings who can shine with the light of Christ.
At the heart of the episode is the picture that the heaven we often imagine as the final destination is not simply where we go when we die, but the fruit of a long creative process already beginning in us, between us, and on the earth.
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The Light in Every Thing is a podcast of The Seminary of The Christian Community in North America. Learn more about the Seminary and its offerings at our website. This podcast is supported by our growing Patreon community. To learn more, go to www.patreon.com/ccseminary.
Thanks to Elliott Chamberlin who composed our theme music, “Seeking Together."

In this summer repeat, Patrick and Jonah continue their conversation on the mysteries of heaven and hell by exploring what it means for Christ to be “the Lord of the heavenly forces upon earth.” Beginning with John 8:12 and the image of Christ as the light of the world, they consider the ancient experience of the skies, sun, moon, stars, and seasons as living revelations of divine activity.
The conversation moves through Psalm 19, ancient sacred sites aligned with the sun, the Hebrew movement away from worshiping created things, and the Christian understanding that the heavenly forces have come to earth through Christ. Patrick and Jonah reflect on how these forces are no longer simply “out there” in the heavens, but are meant to awaken within human beings as light, wisdom, love, and moral strength.
Together they ask how human beings can learn to shine without burning out, how community can become a constellation of light, and how Golgotha becomes not only an event in history, but a living reality within us.
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The Light in Every Thing is a podcast of The Seminary of The Christian Community in North America. Learn more about the Seminary and its offerings at our website. This podcast is supported by our growing Patreon community. To learn more, go to www.patreon.com/ccseminary.
Thanks to Elliott Chamberlin who composed our theme music, “Seeking Together."

This (northern hemisphere) summer, we are reposting our September 2023 series on Heaven and Hell.
In this opening episode, Patrick and Jonah explore what Christianity means by heaven, hell, earth, sky, and the “heavenly forces.” They ask how modern consciousness can recover these ancient images as living realities, not merely mythological leftovers.
The conversation moves through the Ascension, the Creed, Christ as Lord of the Heavenly Forces on Earth, and the soul’s experience of longing, grace, scarcity, blessing, despair, and freedom.
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The Light in Every Thing is a podcast of The Seminary of The Christian Community in North America. Learn more about the Seminary and its offerings at our website. This podcast is supported by our growing Patreon community. To learn more, go to www.patreon.com/ccseminary.
Thanks to Elliott Chamberlin who composed our theme music, “Seeking Together."

In this final episode before the summer break, Patrick and Jonah return to the mystery of salvation and the “second death.” Together, they explore freedom, judgment, the resurrection body, the soul as bride, Christ as bridegroom, and the danger of becoming too bound to what is passing away.
Rather than presenting salvation as membership in the right religious group, this conversation asks what it means to freely follow Christ as the living source of a new creation.
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The Light in Every Thing is a podcast of The Seminary of The Christian Community in North America. Learn more about the Seminary and its offerings at our website. This podcast is supported by our growing Patreon community. To learn more, go to www.patreon.com/ccseminary.
Thanks to Elliott Chamberlin who composed our theme music, “Seeking Together."

What is the “second death,” and why does the communion service speak of Christ’s body and blood as preserving the life of the soul? In this first part of the season’s closing conversation, Jonah and Patrick explore the soul’s entanglement with death, the images of Babylon and the New Jerusalem in Revelation, and communion as the gift of Christ’s own death-and-resurrection life. Salvation is not simply moral imitation, but receiving the healing and strength we cannot manufacture for ourselves.
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The Light in Every Thing is a podcast of The Seminary of The Christian Community in North America. Learn more about the Seminary and its offerings at our website. This podcast is supported by our growing Patreon community. To learn more, go to www.patreon.com/ccseminary.
Thanks to Elliott Chamberlin who composed our theme music, “Seeking Together."