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Blood Meridian, part 2: It's time for some game theory
"He never sleeps, the judge. He is dancing, dancing. He says that he will never die." Wrapping up the second half of our discussion on Cormac McCarthy's 1985 classic, in which various chickens come home to roost. The Glanton gang's downfall: on the run from the Sonoran cavalry, mercy killings, greed and symbolism of coins, the takeover of the ferry, the Yuma strike back, the judge's apocalypse-chic fashion, the Idiot plays his part (??). On violence and human nature: Rich makes the base case that humans don't have a 'true' nature but respond to local incentives, Benny finds some logic in the conservative tradition for avoiding a major upset to the fragile equilibrium of modern civilisation, and Cam adds game theoretic reasons for having a government or third party that can make credible threats of violence. What makes the Kid different: Rich thinks he isn't any more moral than the rest of the gang, but we end up coming up with a pretty good explanation for why the judge singles him out for opprobrium and considers him such a disappointment. On the sunset of the Wild West: the kid becomes the man, the cycle of violence perpetuates itself, mass slaughter of the buffalo, McCarthy's satirical skewering of manifest destiny, interpreting of the epilogue and the last dance. Also: some general thoughts on tackling our first McCarthy, his idiosyncratic writing style, and the ambiguity around his antagonist's true identity. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) chitter chatter (00:09:08) The Glanton gang’s downfall (00:25:00) The Idiot (00:32:33) Cultural technologies for reducing violence (00:45:33) What makes the Kid different? (01:03:06) Greed, exploitation, and the end of the Wild West (01:13:13) The Bonepickers: the cycle of violence repeats (01:22:12) The last dance: Is the judge a supernatural being? (01:49:40) Summing up and last-minute token criticism WRITE US: We love listener feedback. Send us a note at [email protected] to correct our bad takes, add your own, or just say hi. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: The Nose - Gogol (short story) The Odyssey - Homer (Emily Wilson translation) White Noise - Don DeLillo
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Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian, part 1: A legion of horribles
Hell aint half full. Hear me. Ye carry war of a madman's making onto a foreign land. Yell wake more than the dogs. Rich is a big McCarthy head. For Benny and Cam, it's their first taste, and we're going straight to the top shelf: the 1985 epic historical novel Blood Meridian; or, The Evening Redness in the West. In this discussion we cover the first half of the book (chapters 1-12) as a meditation on violence, manifest destiny, self-mythology, and McCarthy's own cunning plot to positioning himself within the literary canon. At the centre of it all there is the judge: a towering, hairless enigma who might be a false god, or a devil... or something even worse. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) quick background (00:06:07) introducing the Kid and the judge 00:12:46) why did Captain White’s expedition fail so badly? (00:24:54) Comanche war party run-on sentence fever dream (00:34:12) Sometime come the mother, sometime come the wolf (00:42:00) the strangely egalitarian Glanton Gang (00:56:13) Judge Holden piss-infused gunpowder volcano massacre (01:15:19) Decoding the story of the harness-maker and the traveller (01:28:01) Goodhart’s law in scalp-hunting bounties (01:34:48) First impressions of McCarthy (01:37:32) Listener mail: Knausgaard and autofiction rant revisited WRITE US: We love listener feedback. Send us a note at [email protected] to correct our bad takes, add your own, or just say hi. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: The Odyssey - Homer (Emily Wilson translation)
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DYEL Christmas party: The most beloved and hated books of 2024
A bit of festive fun looking back on the year that was. Which books have stayed with us? Which were forgettable? What was the best reading/watching we did outside of book club? What did we learn about podcasting? Are we gonna keep posting this stuff in public? and MORE CHAPTERS (00:00:00) festive chit chat (00:07:35) Revealing our favourite books of the year 00:34:13) Biggest STINKER of the year (00:48:25) Our #1 (non-book club) book/essay/blog (00:59:39) Favourite film or TV (01:10:05) Navel-gazing on the book club meta and podcasting lessons learned WRITE US: We love listener feedback. Send us a note at [email protected] to correct our bad takes, add your own, or just say hi. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: Blood Meridian - Cormac McCarthy The Odyssey - Homer (Emily Wilson translation)
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The Moviegoer: In which we escape a deep existential malaise
A paradox: how can an author—say, Walker Percy—get the reader to care about a protagonist—say, Binx Bolling—who is stuck in a malaise and doesn't himself particularly care about anything? A corollary: how can a book club have an engaging discussion when they don't particularly care about said book and said protagonist? Honestly you might as well skip the first 10 minutes or so in which we half-assedly try to talk about the actual plot elements. Luckily Cam saves the day with an impromptu lecture on Kierkegaard and we get to yapping about the meaning of life instead: Is it patronising to claim that everyone is living in a state of despair? Is self-gratification and individualism actually bad? What are the main avenues for having a meaningful life? How does society stigmatise or incentivise meaning-making activities? Has the existentialist project more or less been a success? Which of Popper's three worlds does 'meaning' fall into? I can't be bothered doing chapter markers for this one so just take a leap of faith you cowards WRITE US: We love listener feedback. Send us a note at [email protected] to correct our bad takes, add your own, or just say hi. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: Blood Meridian - Cormac McCarthy The Odyssey - Homer (Emily Wilson translation)
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Banned books: Vladimir Nabokov's infamous Lolita
“Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul... You can always count on a murderer for a fancy prose style.” Nabokov had a lot of trouble getting anyone to publish a story about a grown man falling in love with a 12 year old. After multiple bans and scandals, Lolita caught fire in America, and is now considered perhaps his greatest work (altho you still cop some dodgy glances reading it on the train). The great central tension is between Humbert Humbert the monster and HH the sensitive and sympathetic aesthete. How reliable is HH as a narrator? Is he deluding himself? Did he successfully hoodwink certain critics? Is he truly capable of love and redemption, or is everything staged for effect? On the murder mystery: is HH really any better than his nemesis Clare Quilty? What's the significance of trying to kill one's shadow? Did we catch Quilty's lurking presence throughout these pages? Does he even exist at all? What's the message of this story? On didactic vs aesthetic fiction, whether this book is meant to be moralising, Nabokov's instructions to the reader, and an overall vibe check on how we feel about his tricks after reading both Pale Fire and Lolita. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) life imitates art (00:04:11) the two faces of Humbert Humbert 00:13:42) is HH an unreliable narrator? (00:26:32) Trying to distinguish between love and lust (00:36:50) Sympathy for the pedo (00:40:32) the questionable reality of Clare Quilty (01:04:49) Quilty vs HH (01:08:45) Does Lolita have a moral? (death of the author redux) (01:14:22) comparison to Pale Fire and Nabokov vibe check WRITE US: We love to share listener feedback. Send us a note at [email protected] to correct our bad takes, add your own, or just say hi. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: The Moviegoer - Walker Percy
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