Down to Earth Conversations

Kathy Baldock is a writer, speaker, and LGBTQ+ advocate. She is a core part of the film 1946: The Mistranslation that Shifted Culture (see episode 106 with the film's director, Sharon "Rocky" Roggio).
Kathy had a shift in her life in her fifties, leading to a shift in her faith and found a new vocation over the past twenty years. In this conversation we discuss some of that journey, and then dive into her new book, Forging a Sacred Weapon, which looks at how history conspired to lead to the inclusion of the word homosexual in the Bible for the first time in 1946, and the damage that has happened as a result.
Follow Kathy at @kathyvbaldock on Instagram or check out her website canyonwalkerconnections.com
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Andy shares an update on why the pod hasn't kicked off for the year yet, and shares about The Open Table - a new national gathering in June this year in Tamaki Makaurau (Auckland).
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In this final episode of 2025 I share some thoughts on the year from a personal perspective before diving in to a recap of the journey we've been on together this year as a podcast. We've had some really wonderful humans on the pod this year and here are just a few highlights.
Check out the links below to connect with this year's guests or keep up with their work.

Jaimee Van Gemerden
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Sharon 'Rocky' Rogio
Check out the 1946 film - to find out where to view it, head to ⁠⁠1946themovie.com⁠⁠
Find more from Rocky and the team on ⁠Facebook⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠Twitter⁠, or ⁠TikTok
Cathy and Steven
Check out the Changes Ahead podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
Follow them on ⁠Facebook⁠ or ⁠Instagram⁠.

Phillipa Hunt
Check out Satisfy Food Rescue on their ⁠website⁠, on ⁠Facebook⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠, or ⁠LinkedIn⁠. Kate and Alex
Check out Common Grace Aotearoa at ⁠commongrace.nz⁠ or find them on ⁠Instagram ⁠or ⁠Facebook⁠ Ben Cremer
Check out Ben's weekly newsletter, ⁠Into the Gray⁠, and find him on ⁠Facebook⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠Threads⁠, and ⁠BlueSky⁠.Lindy Jacomb
Check out Olive Leaf Network on their ⁠website⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠ or ⁠Instagram⁠.
And check out the Cult Chat podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
Petra ZaleskiFind Petra on Instagram at @therevpetrazaleskiJess Hall
Check out Jess's art on ⁠InstagramDale Campbell
Check out Dale's article that we discuss on the podcast here
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Dale Campbell has a diverse background in justice related jobs and has done a lot of good thinking about how not to do more damage while trying to be helpful. He also challenges us in this kōrero to think well about what it actually looks like to love our enemies - how to resist evil while still seeing the humanity of others.
A content warning, issues of sexual and physical violence are mentioned in examples given, so be kind to yourself.
Here is a link to an article Dale wrote that has illustrations that show some of what we talk about in this conversation, so you may find it helpful to have a glance at that as you listen if you're not driving or whatever, or go and read the article later to embed what Dale is saying more deeply.
But for now, prepare to be challenged, encouraged, and emboldened to live a life of love, even in the hardest of spaces.
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Jess Hall, current Master of Theology student, joins me to talk about both her post graduate research project and her art, both of which explore the intersections of living as an embodied human and faith.
While talking about things like menstrual bleeding on a podcast might be a bit jarring for some, it is important to normalise things that are actually very normal for many people, and help to reduce the stigma. By exploring this topic and how it might actually be helpful to spiritual formation, Jess takes it a step further and shows how engaging with faith through our lived experience can be highly beneficial to our faith journey, our identity formation, and our feeling comfortable in our own bodies.
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