The publishing model is broken so how do you fix it?That was one of the core questions that led to the formation of Kowloon Knights and Kepler Interactive. In this conversation, Jay is joined by Samuel Lee Co-Founder of Kepler, the publisher behind hits like Rematch, Expedition 33, Sifu, Scorn, and upcoming titles like Orbitals to talk about the origins and growth of Kepler Interactive. We talk about the business of publishing and how Kepler sought to redefine that space with its collective studio model. Sam shares brutally honest insights into their journey and growth as a publisher overtime, including what they look for in studio partners. I think this conversation perfectly highlights why Kepler attracts standout studios like Sandfall and Sloclap in place of bigger incumbents. So for more insights on one of the hottest publishers out there be sure to tune in. Growing Pains is a series focusing on key business trends and people shaping the Global Games Market and their impact on the Games Industry. In this series, Jay speaks with industry leaders across the Games and Gametech space, trying to demystify the industry, understand the state of leadership, and answer the all-important question, 'Is having a fun game still enough to succeed in today's games market?'