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The Back of the Book

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The Back of the Book
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    The Rhythm of the Saints

    22/1/2026 | 56 mins.
    Poet and critic James Matthew Wilson drops by to share a few poems, discuss his writing process, and consider the re-emergence of form in contemporary poetry. Chris and James also discuss efforts to foster literary excellence in the culture more broadly. The episode includes its federally mandated Seinfeld reference, but this time it’s James who brings it up.

    Show notes: ·        
    James’s most recent poetry collection, Saint Thomas and the Forbidden Birds      
    The Colosseum Institute       
    University of St. Thomas’s MFA program         
    “Quarantine Notebook” – Part XI         
    Adrienne Rich reads “At a Bach Concert”

    Time stamps: 
    4:11 – Formalism and narrative poetry
    18:17 – Publishers, literary journals, and MFA programs
    29:06 – Saint Thomas and the Forbidden Birds
    43:05 – “Quarantine Notebook”

    Opening and closing music: Brendan Benson, “Spit It Out,” used with permission from the artist. 

    Produced by Sean Doolan.
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    A Holly Jody Christmas

    23/12/2025 | 53 mins.
    For this special Christmas episode, Chris is joined by Joseph Bottum, a distinguished man of letters who has written extensively about the Yuletide season. They discuss the significance of the holiday and the festivities (both old and new) associated with Christmas, its various literary portrayals over the years, and Jody’s own Christmas essays and tales.

    Show notes:
    Jody's book of Christmas-themed essays and tales, Frankincense, Gold, and Myrrh
    Jody's memoir of Christmases of his youth, The Christmas Plains
    Jody's Christmas essays for First Things, The Lamp, Law & Liberty, Public Discourse, and The Wall Street Journal
    Jody's Christmas EP, Grace and Gladness

    Time stamps:
    1:39 – The literary qualities of Christmas
    15:45 – The opulence and "thickness" of Christmastime
    25:38 – Jody's literary influences and the tradition of the Christmas story
    33:40 – Dickens as "the great unconscious novelist"
    43:29 – Jody's Christmas tales and Chesterton's poem "The House of Christmas"

    Opening and closing music: Brendan Benson, “Spit It Out,” used with permission from the artist.

    Produced by Sean Doolan.
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    Mind, Muscle, and Mimesis

    11/12/2025 | 55 mins.
    Chris is joined by Jordan Castro, a novelist, essayist, and the deputy director of the Cluny Institute. They discuss Jordan’s new novel, Muscle Man, as well as the discontents of academia, Jordan’s literary influences, the place of fiction in contemporary America, and their favorite campus novels.

    Show notes: 
    Jordan’s new novel, Muscle Man
    Jordan’s essay on weightlifting for Harper’s
    Jordan’s previous novel, The Novelist
    The Cluny Institute
    Time stamps: 
    1:52 – Portraying the embodied life
    9:58 – Violence and the Gothic
    20:18 – Mimesis in academic culture
    29:31 – Writing complex characters
    41:09 – Are men reading fiction?
    48:08 – Genre and influences

    Opening and closing music: Brendan Benson, “Spit It Out,” used with permission from the artist.

    Produced by Sean Doolan.
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    Solly’s Special: Thanksgiving and Its Jewish Roots

    26/11/2025 | 1h
    For this special Thanksgiving episode, Chris is joined by Meir Soloveichik, the Rabbi of Congregation Shearith Israel (the oldest Jewish congregation in the United States) and the director of the Straus Center for Torah and Western Thought at Yeshiva University. They discuss the Jewish origins of the Thanksgiving holiday, the history of Jews in America, and the current plight of antisemitism in American politics. Show notes:
    For Solly’s writing about Thanksgiving, see here and here.
    Solly’s recent essay for Mosaic, “The Christian-Jewish Alliance and Its Enemies”
    The recent volume to which Solly contributed, Jewish Roots of American Liberty
    George Washington's letters to the Hebrew congregations in Newport and Savannah
    Get Chris’s book, 13 Novels Conservatives Will Love (but Probably Haven’t Read), here.
    Time stamps: 
    1:41 – Origins of Thanksgiving and the history of Solly’s congregation
    12:22 – The significance of religious liberty for early Jewish Americans
    23:33 – Hebraic roots of the American founding
    40:05 – Antisemitism on the American left and right
    53:12 – Maintaining gratitude in the face of hardship

    Opening and closing music: Brendan Benson, “Spit It Out,” used with permission from the artist.

    Produced by Sean Doolan.
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    A Spark of Literary Genius

    13/11/2025 | 1h 2 mins.
    The critic and literary biographer Frances Wilson drops by to discuss her exceptional new book, Electric Spark: The Enigma of Dame Muriel. She and Chris talk about the fascinating life and early career of Muriel Spark, including her development as a novelist, tumultuous family life, and journey to religious belief. This is an especially fun conversation about one of the 20th century’s greatest—and slipperiest—novelists.

    Show notes:
    Frances’s book, Electric Spark: The Enigma of Dame Muriel
    Chris’s review of Electric Spark for the Washington Examiner
    Some of Chris’s other essays about Spark: The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie and The Mandelbaum Gate; (his book, 13 Novels Conservatives Will Love (but Probably Haven’t Read), includes a chapter about another Spark novel).
    Martin Stannard’s authorized biography of Spark
    Spark’s memoir, Curriculum Vitae
    Time stamps:

    0:34 – Muriel Spark's background and literary style (with a digression about Frances’s and Chris’s favorite Spark novels)
    11:00 – Grappling with slippery biographical details
    18:07 – Spark's early life and family
    28:49 – Doppelgängers and doubling
    36:15 – Peculiar day jobs and resulting entanglements

    51:05 – Conversion to Catholicism

    Opening and closing music: Brendan Benson, “Spit It Out,” used with permission from the artist.

    Produced by Sean Doolan and R. Rubin.

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In The Back of the Book, host Christopher J. Scalia interviews writers, scholars, and other expert guests about culture and the arts.Listen to The Back of the Book, along with more than 40 other original podcasts, at Ricochet.com. No paid subscription required.
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