The English Heritage Podcast

From steamy jungles and boiling mud pools to a bathroom aboard a luxury yacht, this is a plant story like no other. Sir Stephen and Lady Virginia Courtauld weren’t just art deco tastemakers; they were globe-trotting orchid obsessives, chasing rare blooms across Southeast Asia in the 1930s and (legally!) bringing them home against the odds. 

Joined by English Heritage’s Dr Andrew Hann and gardener-researcher Hannah Pearson, Amy Matthews follows the Courtaulds’ trail through diaries, photographs and maps, uncovering a tale of privilege, passion and peril. Along the way, orchids are dealt, gifted, bombed, evacuated and lovingly preserved through war, displacement and decades of change.  

It’s a story of people and plants and how a collection of extraordinary flowers travelled the world and were conserved through conflict for the benefit of the world today 

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From one brown leather dog collar unfolds a story of a family that loved their dogs for generations. And the Thellussons of Brodsworth Hall weren’t the only grand family whose history we can understand more deeply through accounts of their four-legged friends.  

This time, Amy is joined by English Heritage historians Dr Megan Leyland and Eleanor Matthews to explore how dogs lived alongside people as companions, workers, status symbols and family members.  

From lapdogs and greyhounds to working dogs, canine hierarchies and pet cemeteries in the garden, we trace centuries of affection, symbolism and sentiment. We hear how dogs were fed, memorialised and painted into portraits that allow us to understand the values of the past today. 

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Two near-identical paintings. One great Dutch master. And a mystery that has spanned more than 350 years. In this episode of The English Heritage Podcast, Amy Matthews travels to Kenwood to explore “The Guitar Player”, Johannes Vermeer’s celebrated painting, and its striking counterpart from the Philadelphia Art Museum. Displayed side by side for the first time, these two works are inviting spirited debate from visitors, and cutting-edge research too.  

English Heritage’s Wendy Monkhouse, Ella Letort and Alice Tate-Harte take Amy through questions of authorship, technique, condition, and provenance. From pigment analysis and imaging technologies to the marks of time visible on canvas, this episode reveals how art history and science work together to interrogate one of the most intriguing puzzles in Vermeer scholarship.  

Look closely and decide for yourself: are these two paintings the work of the same hand or do their subtle differences tell another story?  

You can find out more about this collaboration with the National Gallery (London), the National Gallery of Art (Washington) and the Philadelphia Art Museum in the notes below.  

Episode Notes  

The scientific research on the Philadelphia painting was undertaken by:  


Dr. Kate Duffy (Senior Scientist)  


Dr. Aleksandra Popowich (Conservation Scientist)  


Mark Tucker (The Neubauer Family Director of Conservation), Philadelphia Art Museum  

In collaboration with:  


Dr. John Delaney (Senior Imaging Scientist)  


Dr. Kate Dooley (Imaging Scientist), National Gallery of Art, Washington  

The scientific research on the Kenwood painting was carried out by:  


Dr. Helen Howard (Senior Scientist)  


Dr. Marta Melchiorre Di Crescenzo (Senior Scientist), National Gallery, London  

In collaboration with:  


Dr. John Delaney (Senior Imaging Scientist)  


Dr. Kate Dooley (Imaging Scientist), National Gallery of Art, Washington  


Alice Tate-Harte (Paintings Conservator), English Heritage  

Curatorial research was carried out by:  


Dr. Jennifer Thompson (The Gloria and Jack Drosdick Curator of European Painting and Sculpture and Curator of the John G. Johnson Collection)  


Dr. Wendy Monkhouse (Senior Curator, English Heritage)  


Ella Letort (Curator, Kenwood House)  

You can find out more about the scientific research in this online article: https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/kenwood/history-stories-kenwood/guitar_player_vermeer/  

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While the family upstairs feasts and toasts, who’s stoking the fires, serving the supper and sweeping up the pine needles? This episode heads below stairs to explore how servants in historic country houses really spent Christmas. 

Amy Matthews is joined by English Heritage expert Dr Andrew Hann and writer Sian Evans to uncover the season of hard work and stolen play. Not to mention vast quantities of beef, balls, baffling numbers of eggs and moments when the social order relaxed just a little! 

Drawing on diaries, documents and oral histories, we meet cooks, gardeners and housekeepers who found ways to celebrate despite the workload and discover why Boxing Day often mattered more than Christmas Day for those in service. 

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How did an English abbey come to own a fragment of Santa’s finger?  

And what has this got to do with a long tradition of spiritual journeys?  

Beginning with a relic from St Nicholas that found its way all the way to Battle Abbey in Sussex, we’re lacing up our boots to follow the history of Christian pilgrimage around the world.  

Dr Michael Carter and modern-day pilgrim Luke Sherlock @englishpilgrim help Amy Matthews understand why people travelled for spiritual purposes in the past and how we continue to undertake life-changing journeys in the modern day. 

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The English Heritage Trust is a charity, no. 1140351, and a limited company, no. 07447221, registered in England and Wales.  

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