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What do you do with stories of people seeing their own double? Is it folklore? Brain malfunction? Astral projection? A demonic imitation? A flesh-and-blood mystery? Or something stranger that does not fit neatly into our modern categories?
In this episode rewind, Brandon Spain and Lindsy Waters explore the strange phenomenon of doppelgangers, also known as “double walkers.” The conversation moves through folklore, famous cases, biblical passages, cryptid encounters, scientism, spiritual laws, and the unsettling human ability to recognize when something looks almost human but not quite.
The episode begins with the German meaning of doppelganger as “double goer” or “double walker,” then moves into historical and cultural examples like the Irish fetch, changeling stories, Abraham Lincoln, Catherine the Great, Percy Shelley, John Donne, Goethe, and the mysterious case of Pauline Picard. Brandon and Lindsy also look at the famous Emily Sage case, where an entire classroom reportedly saw a teacher’s double.
The conversation also takes a biblical turn with Peter’s “angel” in Acts, the disciples thinking Jesus on the water was a ghost, and the larger question of whether Jewish thought had categories for spirit doubles or familiar beings. From there, the guys explore autoscopy, heutoscopy, sleep paralysis, astral projection, DMT, cryptids that mimic human voices, and the limits of purely material explanations.
This is not a neat and tidy answer episode. It’s an Unrefined conversation about mystery, discernment, supernatural reality, and why Christians should be careful not to reduce every strange thing to either “just science” or “just demons.”
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Timestamps:
00:00:06 Opening hook about fake humans and real humans
00:00:28 Brandon introduces the episode
00:00:53 Brandon and Lindsy introduce doppelgangers and doubles
00:01:45 The meaning of doppelganger as double goer or double walker
00:03:07 Looking at the topic through science and the supernatural
00:05:31 Clones and God-breathed spirit questions
00:07:58 Changelings, twins, impostors, and switched identities
00:10:27 The uncanny valley and why the brain notices false humanity
00:11:00 Emily Sage and the classroom that reportedly saw her double
00:12:47 Astral projection possibilities and gray areas Christians avoid
00:15:09 Pauline Picard and the Brittany mystery
00:17:19 The found girl in Cherbourg who did not recognize her family
00:19:26 The family, neighbors, and confession angle
00:20:57 Flesh-and-blood double versus apparition
00:23:20 Cultural and biblical categories for doubles
00:25:46 Peter’s angel, ghosts, cryptids, and imitation
00:28:14 Pursuing truth without forcing every case into one box
00:28:56 Autoscopy, heutoscopy, and seeing oneself
00:30:40 Brain tumors, perception, and possible supernatural overlap
00:31:54 Astral projection, meditation, psychotropics, and spiritual danger
00:34:20 Abraham Lincoln’s double and Mary Todd Lincoln’s interpretation
00:37:32 Fear of the supernatural and angelic encounters
00:39:52 Catherine the Great and the double on the throne
00:42:17 Spiritual laws, secondary causes, and the science of the spirit
00:43:23 Historical doppelganger accounts including John Donne and Goethe
00:45:33 Vardøger, déjà vu, time, and alternate reality questions
00:47:32 Percy Shelley’s disturbing double
00:49:40 Sleep paralysis, shadow figures, and doppelganger speculation

In this collab between Unrefined, Reformed Fringe and Biblical Re-enchantment, Brandon sits down with Anthony Delgado and Doug Van Dorn to move past the basic question of whether giants existed and into the bigger theological issue: why does Scripture keep bringing them up? The conversation traces Nephilim, Rephaim, Genesis 3:15, the seed war, blood, atonement, territorial powers, Mount Hermon, Ezekiel 28, empire, tyranny, and why every strange thread still has to lead us back to Christ.
Timestamps:
00:03:10 Why studying giants matters biblically
00:03:37 Anthony on being honest with strange biblical texts
00:05:21 Giants in the story from Genesis to Revelation
00:07:35 Doug on Andre the Giant, Nephilim bloodlines, and salvation
00:09:48 Are Nephilim always evil and could David’s mighty men be connected
00:12:11 Saul, Jonathan, giant language, and demonization
00:14:28 Giants, blood, atonement, and modern theological drift
00:16:25 Genesis 3:15, the seed war, and why giants matter
00:18:24 Human blood, the Messiah, and genetic corruption
00:20:16 Anthony on Leviticus, atonement, and progressive revelation
00:22:38 A form of godliness while denying the supernatural power of the text
00:24:57 The image of God, spiritual corruption, and materialist hermeneutics
00:27:02 Doug on evangelical materialism and supernatural Scripture
00:29:22 Why giants cannot become the endpoint of interpretation
00:31:42 First Enoch, bloodshed, and sons of false gods
00:34:08 Messianic expectation and the blood of Jesus
00:36:34 Reading Enoch, Jubilees, and Scripture through Messiah
00:38:56 Deuteronomy 32 and ancient textual disagreements
00:41:17 Eschatology, demons, and the days of Noah
00:43:39 Giants, Revelation, and end-times speculation
00:46:02 Reading giants symbolically without losing history
00:48:26 Tyranny, beast imagery, empires, and Revelation
00:50:20 Antichrist, counterfeit sons of God, and inverted worship
00:52:44 So above so below and the counterfeit pattern
00:55:05 Geography, territory, Mount Hermon, and giant locations
00:57:00 Poseidon, Atlantis, Tyre, Hercules, and territorial gods
00:59:25 Satan, the king of Tyre, and Ezekiel 28
01:01:49 Princes, beast imagery, and rulers as images of powers
01:04:07 Baal, Zeus, Alexander, and storm god syncretism
01:06:16 The Angel of the Lord, Yahweh’s inheritance, and the Son
01:08:32 Doug’s final thoughts on putting giants into systematic theology
01:10:43 Spiritual warfare, Ephesians 6, and word-and-spirit theology
01:13:03 Anthony on tyranny, empire, and misplaced hope in rulers
01:15:30 Systems of tyranny, media, corporations, and education
01:17:50 Christian nationalism, political spirits, and final reflections

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In this sponsors-only conversation, Brandon, Lindsy, and Jen slow down one of the most expected but least explained parts of the Christian life: hearing God. They talk through fear, Scripture, the Holy Spirit, peace, imagination, journaling, breathing, emotional honesty, and how to recognize God’s voice without drifting into weirdness or reducing the relationship to a checklist.
Timestamps:
00:00:48 Brandon introduces the topic of hearing God
00:02:15 Why believers are expected to hear God but rarely taught how
00:03:17 Lindsy shares his early tension around cessationism and charismatic caution
00:05:35 Why Scripture alone without relationship can feel like letters without conversation
00:07:52 Fear as one of the main reasons people resist hearing God
00:08:38 Jen reads John 10 and wrestles with the phrase my sheep hear my voice

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Today's guest shares a redemption story that runs through childhood spiritual sensitivity, occult deception, counterfeit supernatural power, and a real encounter with Jesus that changed everything. This episode moves from dark spiritual territory into healing, deliverance, identity, and the power of Christ to restore what the enemy tried to claim.  Brandon chats with Wendy Sadd.
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Timestamps:
00:03:10 Bloodlines, trauma, iniquity, and the blood of Jesus
00:08:02 The church to cauldron pipeline
00:12:39 Pennsylvania roots, church history, and Masonic ties in the bloodline
00:14:55 Childhood demonic encounters and early spiritual sensitivity
00:17:58 Scrying, automatic writing, and early occult behavior
00:20:20 The voice at sixteen and the prophecy that marked her path
00:27:24 Turning 42, getting red-pilled, and starting the search for God
00:29:35 Why spiritually hungry people can drift into counterfeit power
00:34:24 Under the tutelage of occult teachers and a New Age walk-in
00:39:02 Light body activation and astral travel
00:41:18 A face to face encounter with another Jesus
00:47:59 Spiritual interference during the recording and live prayer
00:52:31 Reiki, yoga, worship, and the body in spiritual practice
00:59:25 Reiki training and demonic beings attached to healing sessions
01:01:46 The Lords of Karma and the Akashic records
01:04:15 Council encounter and fear in meditation
01:07:42 Night terror, levitation, and angelic intervention
01:08:52 God begins pulling Wendy out of the occult
01:12:55 Seeing what was operating behind an occult mentor
01:19:39 Repentance, burning occult objects, and returning to Jesus
01:26:22 Nigerian prayer warrior, spiritual authority, and bloodline warfare
01:28:45 Instant healing of a lump at a conference
01:32:11 Grocery store word of knowledge and healing testimony
01:36:30 Warning a former friend to repent and close the door
01:38:24 Yeti encounter near Pilot Mountain
01:49:58 The danger of fear based spiritual legalism
01:52:26 Freedom in Jesus for people trapped in the occult
01:54:43 Romans 8 and the invitation to come home to Christ
01:56:56 Next steps for new believers coming out of the occult

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What do you do with a Bible that refuses to stay ordinary?
In this episode, Brandon and Lindsy sit down with returning guest Ryan Anderson to explore one of the wildest questions they’ve tackled yet: does the Bible actually present a case for time travel? What starts as a conversation about God creating time quickly opens into a sweeping discussion about Moses, Elijah, the Mount of Transfiguration, prophetic timing, and whether certain passages make more sense when read through a deeper biblical lens.
Ryan lays out his case that time is part of creation itself, meaning the God who made it is not bound by it. From Hezekiah’s sundial to Joshua’s long day to Moses asking to see God’s glory, the conversation traces moments in Scripture that seem to suggest time is more flexible than most believers assume. Then things really get interesting as Ryan connects Moses and Elijah’s encounters on the mountain with Jesus’ transfiguration, proposing that what happened there may have been more than a vision. It may have been a convergence across ages.
Along the way, the conversation touches the gap theory, Lucifer traditions, Hebrew word studies, old earth questions, typology, the law and the prophets, and why the Bible may be far stranger and more supernatural than most modern readers were taught to expect.
This one is not about chasing novelty. It is about asking whether the text itself is bigger, deeper, and more charged with mystery than we’ve allowed.
Timestamps:
00:00:30 Intro and setup for a stretching conversation
00:02:53 Ryan Anderson on his background and upcoming book
00:03:45 Pre-Adamic history gap theory and Lucifer questions
00:05:18 Bible translations manuscript issues and original language discussion
00:07:41 Hebrew wording and Lucifer wanting to be like the Most High
00:10:01 Adam angels and the possibility of a prior order
00:12:26 Psalm 8 Lucifer protest theory and the question what is man
00:14:50 When did Satan actually fall
00:17:14 Jerusalem Jericho moon symbolism and prophetic reading
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00:19:44 Brandon on other theories of Satan’s fall and post-Covid biblical supernaturalism
00:24:32 The main question can the Bible support time travel
00:26:51 God created time and stands outside it
00:31:41 Heaven eternity and different experiences of time
00:34:05 Hezekiah sundial Joshua and biblical mastery over time
00:36:23 Moses asks to see God’s glory
00:38:46 Hebrew word study on face before and behind
00:41:12 Elijah on the mountain and the Lord passing by
00:43:39 The Mount of Transfiguration as possible convergence point
00:46:03 Did God bring Moses and Elijah into the future
00:50:51 Moses burial Michael and Satan disputing the body
00:53:16 Elisha double portion and Moses Elijah typology
00:55:35 Brandon and Lindsy respond to Ryan’s theory
00:57:51 Apocrypha Enoch Jasher and interpretive value
01:00:00 Ryan on why he’s writing the new book
01:02:16 Brandon on theory building and scholarly work
01:04:18 Favorite time travel movies