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    E220 When Imagination Re-Enchants the World

    10/08/2026 | 1h 14 mins.
    Author Heather L. L. Fitzgerald joins Brandon, Lindsy, and Jen to explore the redemptive power of fantasy, storytelling, and imagination. Heather shares the inspiration behind The Tethered World Chronicles, a Christian fantasy series filled with Bigfoot, giants, hidden realms, family, faith, and adventure. The conversation examines the lingering effects of the satanic panic, the difference between discernment and fear, and whether Christians can engage fantasy without embracing the darkness sometimes associated with it. Brandon also shares how fantasy literature helped him through depression, restored his sense of wonder, and reawakened his belief in a supernatural God. From Narnia and Harry Potter to fairy lore, the Nephilim, childlike faith, creativity, and imposter syndrome, this episode considers how good stories can open our eyes to hope, beauty, courage, and the larger story God is telling.
    https://www.heatherllfitzgerald.com/

    Amazon link to the series:
    http://tiny.cc/ett7101

    Link to Realm Makers
    https://www.bookishkop.com/
    blog post mentioned about fantasy 

    Timestamps
    00:00:06 – Good Fantasy, Hope, and Seeing Beyond the Present
     00:00:28 – Introducing Heather L. L. Fitzgerald
     00:03:12 – The Tethered World Chronicles Explained
     00:05:06 – Bigfoot, Hidden Realms, Giants, and Eden
     00:06:49 – Growing Up During the Satanic Panic
     00:10:03 – How Heather’s Family Inspired the Books
     00:14:55 – Christian Pushback Against Fantasy
     00:17:59 – Good Nephilim and David’s Mighty Men
     00:20:48 – Fantasy as a Parable on Steroids
     00:23:42 – Fairy Bread and Gifts from the Fae
     00:25:39 – Discernment, Convictions, and Gray Areas
     00:26:51 – Harry Potter, Darkness, and Redemptive Themes
     00:31:54 – Spell Books, Superheroes, and Christian Hypocrisy
     00:35:37 – How Fantasy Helped Brandon Survive Depression
     00:38:00 – Rediscovering the Supernatural Through Stories
     00:40:09 – How Fantasy Made the Bible Feel Real Again
     00:42:18 – Fantasy, Childlike Faith, and C. S. Lewis
     00:44:07 – Joy, Nostalgia, and Eating the Meat
     00:45:11 – Stories as a Framework for Wonder
     00:46:46 – Phones, Doomscrolling, and the Loss of Imagination
     00:47:34 – Jesus as the Ultimate Storyteller
     00:48:58 – Writing, Creativity, and Imposter Syndrome
     00:52:27 – Spiritual Themes Heather Discovered After Writing
     00:53:02 – Writing the Third Book with God
     00:56:35 – Heather’s Favorite Book in the Series
     01:01:27 – Advice for Aspiring Fantasy Writers
     01:03:03 – Realm Makers and Christian Speculative Fiction
     01:04:23 – Becoming Who God Says You Are
     01:06:31 – What Heather Is Writing Next
     01:08:38 – The C. S. Lewis Writers Conference
     01:10:35 – Where to Find Heather and Her Books
     01:11:05 – A Future Narnia-Inspired Story
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    E219 [Rewind] When Knowledge Increases... What Happens Next?

    03/08/2026 | 1h 11 mins.
    In this thought-provoking rewind episode, Brandon is joined by Amy from Eyes on the Right to explore biblical patterns surrounding the last days, the increase of knowledge, technological acceleration, spiritual deception, AI, transhumanism, UFO narratives, and the importance of discernment. Rather than encouraging fear or sensationalism, this conversation challenges believers to recognize recurring biblical patterns, remain anchored in God's Word, and rely on the Holy Spirit to navigate an increasingly confusing world. Above all, this episode is a call to pursue wisdom over speculation and Christ over conspiracy.

    Timestamps
    00:00:28 – Rewind Introduction: Why This Conversation Matters
     00:01:39 – As in the Days of Noah: Setting the Stage
     00:04:00 – What Really Happened in the Days of Noah?
     00:06:28 – Gnosticism, Occult Knowledge & the Pursuit of Hidden Wisdom
     00:07:07 – Daniel 12:4 and the Increase of Knowledge
     00:08:53 – "Knowledge Is Power" and the End-Time Deception
     00:09:41 – The Danger of Chasing Every Rabbit Trail
     00:11:14 – When Christians Begin Questioning Scripture
     00:13:36 – Wisdom, Sorrow & Solomon's Warning
     00:14:18 – Genesis 6, DNA, and the Days of Noah
     00:16:01 – Gender, Transhumanism & the First Chapters of Genesis
     00:18:26 – A Seed War: Altering God's Creation
     00:20:49 – GMOs, Food, and the Pattern of Corruption
     00:21:31 – Is Satan Deceived by His Own Lies?
     00:23:09 – Luciferian Narratives and Reprobate Minds
     00:25:22 – AI, Ancient Technology & the Return of Old Patterns
     00:27:42 – The Metaverse, Phones & Losing Touch with Creation
     00:29:45 – History Repeats: The Pattern Before the Flood
     00:30:53 – UFOs, Disclosure & End-Time Deception
     00:34:23 – Truthers, Psyops & Learning Discernment
     00:36:46 – Don't Fall for the "Everything Is a Psyop" Trap
     00:38:57 – Information Overload and Spiritual Distraction
     00:41:23 – Angelic Beings, Hybrids & Ancient Mysteries
     00:43:00 – Giants, DNA & the Shroud of Turin Theory
     00:45:10 – Relics, Cursed Objects & Spiritual Counterfeits
     00:47:27 – Controlled Opposition & Testing Every Spirit
     00:49:52 – Taking a Break from the Fringe
     00:52:16 – Countermeasures, Spiritual Warfare & Staying Grounded
     00:54:28 – What Might the Antichrist Actually Look Like?
     00:59:12 – A Physical Antichrist, Patterns & Biblical Consistency
     01:01:31 – Torahism, the Law & the Finished Work of Christ
     01:03:53 – Patterns, Discernment & Avoiding Deception
     01:06:13 – Law, Grace & the Difference Between Justice and Legalism
     01:07:58 – Final Encouragement: Stay Anchored in Christ
     01:08:31 – Amy's Closing Prayer
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    E217 Close Encounters of the Unrefined Kind

    20/07/2026 | 51 mins.
    Government hearings. Whistleblowers. UFO disclosure. Alien claims. Christians calling everything demonic.
    But what if the real answer is far more complicated?
    Dr. Jonathan Kendall joins Brandon to explore the growing evidence surrounding UFOs and UAPs while challenging the simplistic explanations often offered from every side of the debate.
    Together they discuss government evidence, consciousness, high strangeness, extradimensional realities, ancient encounters, quantum physics, biblical worldview, and why the phenomenon may force us to rethink how we understand reality itself.
    Rather than choosing between "aliens" or "demons," this conversation asks whether we've been asking the wrong questions all along.

    Amazon - New Book
    https://x.com/JKendallMD
    https://jonathankendallmd.com/
    Timestamps:
    00:28 Introduction and welcome back Dr. Jonathan Kendall
    02:41 Jonathan's lifelong interest in UFOs and the paranormal
    03:56 His grandfather's mysterious West Virginia UFO encounter
    05:27 Has Jonathan ever had a UFO experience himself?
    07:20 What convinced him UFOs are a real phenomenon?
    09:55 Project Blue Book and the overwhelming evidence
    13:31 The strongest evidence for UAPs today
    15:37 Government secrecy, disclosure, and finding the truth
    17:08 Are we actually moving toward disclosure?
    19:14 Extraterrestrial vs. extradimensional vs. spiritual explanations
    21:02 Beyond Cartesian dualism: a new way of understanding reality
    23:08 The case for the extraterrestrial hypothesis
    25:04 Why Jonathan ultimately leans toward the extradimensional view
    27:20 Separating genuine encounters from misidentifications
    29:28 Super Psi, consciousness, and paranormal experiences
    31:49 Why reality isn't simply "either/or"
    32:47 Are aliens really demons?
    34:37 Logic, conspiracies, and the danger of flattening reality
    36:58 Jacques Vallée, Diana Pasulka, and Christian perspectives
    39:14 What Jonathan hopes readers take away from his book
    40:41 Jinn, fairies, folklore, and ancient parallels
    44:00 Biblical examples of the physical and spiritual overlapping
    45:55 Time travel, quantum physics, and the transfiguration
    47:18 Where to connect with Jonathan and his work
    48:04 Thoughts on the new disclosure movie
    49:11 "We need to get away from the idea that UFOs are demons."
    49:56 Jonathan's final encouragement to Christians
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    E216 Following The Trail

    13/07/2026 | 7 mins.
    https://join.unrefinedpodcast.com
    Could history itself be one of the greatest deceptions ever told? In this episode, Brandon and the team welcome back Joel Thomas  to unpack the rapidly growing "Little Season of Satan" theory. Together they examine its claims about Revelation 20, altered timelines, Tartaria, missing centuries, the Mandela Effect, and the belief that Christ's millennial reign has already occurred. Rather than simply dismissing the theory, Joel carefully traces its historical origins, theological foundations, and conspiracy overlaps while comparing them against Scripture, church history, and biblical context. The conversation ultimately challenges listeners to pursue discernment without losing sight of Christ, reminding believers that hope should always outweigh fear.
    "If our search for hidden knowledge causes us to lose sight of Jesus, we've already lost the plot."
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    E215 The Cost of Forgiveness

    06/07/2026 | 59 mins.
    Forgiveness is one of the most necessary parts of the Christian life, but it is also one of the most misunderstood. In this episode, Brandon and Sandy sit down with Dr. Everett Worthington to talk about what forgiveness actually is, what it is not, and why reconciliation is something different altogether. Dr. Worthington shares the tragic story of his mother’s murder and how that moment forced him to live out the very forgiveness he had spent years studying and teaching. The conversation explores decisional forgiveness, emotional forgiveness, rumination, resentment, justice, boundaries, and what happens inside us when unforgiveness takes root. Dr. Worthington also walks through his REACH model and offers practical help for those who feel stuck in pain, anger, or grief. This is a powerful, honest, and hope-filled conversation for anyone wrestling with what it means to forgive without pretending the wound never happened.
    Ev's Book https://a.co/d/01UMgKXo
    Ev's Website -https://www.evworthington-forgiveness.com/
    Timestamps
    00:08 Forgiveness and reconciliation are not the same thing
    00:28 Welcome to the Unrefined Podcast
    00:51 Introducing Dr. Everett Worthington and the topic of forgiveness
    03:13 Dr. Worthington’s early work studying forgiveness
    05:36 The murder of Dr. Worthington’s mother
    07:41 Wrestling with anger after tragedy
    10:06 Realizing he had to face forgiveness personally
    12:29 Forgiveness does not erase justice
    14:56 Defining forgiveness through stress and coping
    17:12 Understanding the injustice gap
    19:37 Different biblical ways to respond to injustice
    21:57 Decisional forgiveness and emotional forgiveness
    24:17 Restraint, the brain, and choosing not to retaliate
    26:41 The difference between forgiveness and reconciliation
    29:00 Boundaries, toxic relationships, and reconciliation
    30:22 What it means to love your enemy
    32:50 The REACH model of forgiveness
    35:12 Giving the gift of forgiveness
    37:32 When hurt comes back after forgiving
    39:51 Anger, fear, and the body’s protective response
    42:14 Rumination and unforgiveness
    44:35 Vengeance, grudge-holding, and gender differences
    47:02 Decisional forgiveness, emotional forgiveness, and well-being
    49:07 Matthew 6 and “forgive to be forgiven”
    51:25 Forgiveness, salvation, and God’s judgment
    53:51 A word for listeners carrying deep wounds
    55:36 Practicing forgiveness over time
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What’s beyond the veil? The nature of this world we live in is unrefined. Yes, we live in this multifaceted world of the SEEN and the UNSEEN. In each episode we go beyond the veil in our own personal unrefined way. Our podcast recipe includes: the supernatural, the strange and unexplained from a biblical perspective, PLUS deep dives into the Word AND a wee bit of the conspiratorial for good measure.
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