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    E222 Catching the Wave of Frequency

    24/08/2026 | 2h 7 mins.
    What if Christians didn’t have to choose between rejecting everything that sounds “New Age” and blindly accepting every alternative-health trend? Brandon sits down with biblical naturopathic doctor and frequency health strategist Dr. Brenda Chamness of Shalom Holistic Health for a wide-ranging conversation about frequency, bioresonance, holistic health, trauma, emotions, the biofield, muscle response testing, PEMF, red light, and other frequency-based modalities. Brenda shares her own remarkable journey through stage-four cancer and how it reshaped her understanding of the interconnectedness of spirit, soul, and body. Together they explore how Christians can distinguish between the properties of creation and claims of spiritual power, why fear is a poor substitute for discernment, and how identity, thought patterns, emotional health, and knowing God's voice fit into genuine wholeness. Ultimately, the conversation returns again and again to shalom: not chasing modalities as the answer, but learning to use available tools while remaining grounded in God's love, truth, and leading.
    https://www.infopathy.com/?invite=250725636

    https://www.shalomholistichealth.com/
    00:00:41 — Introducing Frequency, Holistic Health & Christian Discernment
    00:03:07 — Dr. Bren's Journey into Naturopathic Health
    00:05:30 — Cancer, Rife Therapy & Discovering Frequency
    00:09:45 — Shalom: Healing the Whole Person
    00:14:21 — Spirit, Soul & Body: Why Everything Is Connected
    00:18:31 — What Is Frequency?
    00:20:31 — Light, Sound & Frequency in the Human Body
    00:24:36 — Getting to the Root Causes of Dysfunction
    00:26:13 — Identity, Shame, Unworthiness & the Love of God
    00:28:21 — Looking for Healing in the Wrong Places
    00:30:43 — Bioresonance & Finding the Right Modality
    00:33:11 — The Problem with Compartmentalized Medicine
    00:37:59 — Alternative Medicine, Creation & the Western Mindset
    00:42:23 — Thoughts, the Subconscious & Physical Health
    00:44:18 — Discernment Without Fear
    00:47:28 — Learning to Recognize God's Voice
    00:49:17 — The Biofield, Energy & Muscle Response Testing
    00:53:54 — Remote Testing, Neutrality & Quantum Entanglement
    00:56:00 — How Other People's "Fields" Affect Us
    00:58:28 — Ancient Spiritual Practices & Modern Science
    01:00:46 — Frequency, Entrainment & the Body
    01:03:06 — Properties vs. Powers: A Christian Boundary for Discernment
    01:05:17 — Crystals, Metals & the Properties of Creation
    01:07:15 — EMFs, Frequency & the Modern Environment
    01:09:34 — Harmonizing EMFs & Looking at the Fruit
    01:11:43 — Thoughts, Emotions & Your "Internal Pharmacy"
    01:14:11 — The Placebo Effect & the Body's Capacity to Heal
    01:16:31 — Brenda's Cancer Story & a Supernatural Encounter
    01:20:15 — When Healing Tools Become Idols
    01:22:37 — Making Informed Choices About Treatment
    01:27:31 — Cancer Returns & Hearing God's Direction
    01:31:26 — Mindset, Emotions & Healing
    01:33:49 — Bringing Fear, Anger & Disappointment to God
    01:36:14 — Knowing God's Voice in an Age of Deception
    01:38:10 — Biblical Principles as a Plumb Line
    01:40:29 — When Healing Becomes "Spiritual Archaeology"
    01:42:54 — Simplicity, the Courts of Heaven & Religious Complexity
    01:45:15 — When Protocols Replace Trust
    01:48:26 — Fear, Emotional Frequency & the Body
    01:50:48 — The Spirit of Truth vs. the Fear of Deception
    01:52:45 — Grace, Identity & Living as Sons and Daughters
    01:55:11 — Receiving God's Love Before Giving It Away
    01:57:04 — Shalom Holistic Health & Brenda's Approach
    01:59:16 — Frequency Modalities & Infopathy
    02:01:42 — Walking in Shalom in a Chaotic World
    02:04:01 — Why "Good Vibes" Aren't Enough
    02:06:01 — Some Things May Be Fine—but Not Fine for You
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    E221 [Rewind] What If the Real Battle Is What You Believe?

    17/08/2026 | 1h 10 mins.
    Brandon and Lindsy welcome Vicki Joy Anderson back to continue their conversation on spiritual warfare—but once again, the discussion takes an unexpected turn. Rather than focusing on dramatic demonic encounters, they explore the quieter battlefield of confusion, spiritual fatigue, distraction, and false doctrine. The conversation moves through discernment, the dangers of chasing fringe topics for fascination, the responsibility of Christian teachers and podcasters, the gospel of the Kingdom, Gnosticism in modern Christianity, the meaning of ekklesia, and what Scripture actually presents as humanity’s ultimate hope. Throughout, they emphasize testing what we believe, keeping Jesus at the center, and recognizing that deceptive doctrine may be one of the most subtle forms of spiritual warfare.
    They Only Come Out At Night Book
    From Eden to AI Book
    https://www.vickijoyanderson.com/
    Her mom's book! Harps Unhung-->https://amzn.to/4wqqgpt
    https://instagram.com/vickijoyauthor
    00:03:00 – Ephesians 6 & the Armor of God
    00:05:13 – Two Extremes of Spiritual Warfare
    00:07:31 – The Covert Battlefield: Confusion & False Doctrine
    00:09:55 – Testing the Spirits & Discernment
    00:12:19 – Battle Fatigue, Thoughts & the Domino Effect
    00:14:39 – Fringe Fascination, “Fluff” & Red-Pill Overdose
    00:17:05 – When Exploring Darkness Serves the Gospel
    00:19:21 – The Temptation of Sensationalism in Podcasting
    00:21:46 – Teachers, Influencers & Greater Accountability
    00:24:10 – The Unseen Impact of Faithfulness
    00:28:52 – Bad Teaching & Real-World Consequences
    00:31:16 – Have Christians Inherited Bad Theology?
    00:33:35 – Jesus, the Road to Emmaus & Discipleship
    00:35:55 – The Simplicity of the Gospel
    00:38:15 – What Actually Unites the Church?
    00:40:38 – The Gospel of Salvation vs. the Gospel of the Kingdom
    00:43:04 – Covenant, Allegiance & What It Means to Follow Jesus
    00:45:29 – Gnosticism & the Christian View of the World
    00:47:46 – Ekklesia: Church, Assembly or Government?
    00:50:10 – Why the New Testament Confronts Gnosticism
    00:52:29 – Resurrection, the Body & Becoming Fully Human
    00:54:42 – Eden, the New Earth & Humanity’s Future
    00:57:08 – Rethinking Hell, Heaven & Human Destiny
    00:59:32 – Are We Really Going to Spend Eternity in Heaven?
    01:02:00 – The New Creation as God’s Temple
    01:04:20 – Ancient Context & the Layers Added to Christianity
    01:06:38 – False Doctrine as Spiritual Warfare
    01:09:01 – Vicki’s Books & Where to Find Her
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    E220 When Imagination Re-Enchants the World

    10/08/2026 | 1h 14 mins.
    Author Heather L. L. Fitzgerald joins Brandon, Lindsy, and Jen to explore the redemptive power of fantasy, storytelling, and imagination. Heather shares the inspiration behind The Tethered World Chronicles, a Christian fantasy series filled with Bigfoot, giants, hidden realms, family, faith, and adventure. The conversation examines the lingering effects of the satanic panic, the difference between discernment and fear, and whether Christians can engage fantasy without embracing the darkness sometimes associated with it. Brandon also shares how fantasy literature helped him through depression, restored his sense of wonder, and reawakened his belief in a supernatural God. From Narnia and Harry Potter to fairy lore, the Nephilim, childlike faith, creativity, and imposter syndrome, this episode considers how good stories can open our eyes to hope, beauty, courage, and the larger story God is telling.
    https://www.heatherllfitzgerald.com/

    Amazon link to the series:
    http://tiny.cc/ett7101

    Link to Realm Makers
    https://www.bookishkop.com/
    blog post mentioned about fantasy 

    Timestamps
    00:00:06 – Good Fantasy, Hope, and Seeing Beyond the Present
     00:00:28 – Introducing Heather L. L. Fitzgerald
     00:03:12 – The Tethered World Chronicles Explained
     00:05:06 – Bigfoot, Hidden Realms, Giants, and Eden
     00:06:49 – Growing Up During the Satanic Panic
     00:10:03 – How Heather’s Family Inspired the Books
     00:14:55 – Christian Pushback Against Fantasy
     00:17:59 – Good Nephilim and David’s Mighty Men
     00:20:48 – Fantasy as a Parable on Steroids
     00:23:42 – Fairy Bread and Gifts from the Fae
     00:25:39 – Discernment, Convictions, and Gray Areas
     00:26:51 – Harry Potter, Darkness, and Redemptive Themes
     00:31:54 – Spell Books, Superheroes, and Christian Hypocrisy
     00:35:37 – How Fantasy Helped Brandon Survive Depression
     00:38:00 – Rediscovering the Supernatural Through Stories
     00:40:09 – How Fantasy Made the Bible Feel Real Again
     00:42:18 – Fantasy, Childlike Faith, and C. S. Lewis
     00:44:07 – Joy, Nostalgia, and Eating the Meat
     00:45:11 – Stories as a Framework for Wonder
     00:46:46 – Phones, Doomscrolling, and the Loss of Imagination
     00:47:34 – Jesus as the Ultimate Storyteller
     00:48:58 – Writing, Creativity, and Imposter Syndrome
     00:52:27 – Spiritual Themes Heather Discovered After Writing
     00:53:02 – Writing the Third Book with God
     00:56:35 – Heather’s Favorite Book in the Series
     01:01:27 – Advice for Aspiring Fantasy Writers
     01:03:03 – Realm Makers and Christian Speculative Fiction
     01:04:23 – Becoming Who God Says You Are
     01:06:31 – What Heather Is Writing Next
     01:08:38 – The C. S. Lewis Writers Conference
     01:10:35 – Where to Find Heather and Her Books
     01:11:05 – A Future Narnia-Inspired Story
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    E219 [Rewind] When Knowledge Increases... What Happens Next?

    03/08/2026 | 1h 11 mins.
    In this thought-provoking rewind episode, Brandon is joined by Amy from Eyes on the Right to explore biblical patterns surrounding the last days, the increase of knowledge, technological acceleration, spiritual deception, AI, transhumanism, UFO narratives, and the importance of discernment. Rather than encouraging fear or sensationalism, this conversation challenges believers to recognize recurring biblical patterns, remain anchored in God's Word, and rely on the Holy Spirit to navigate an increasingly confusing world. Above all, this episode is a call to pursue wisdom over speculation and Christ over conspiracy.

    Timestamps
    00:00:28 – Rewind Introduction: Why This Conversation Matters
     00:01:39 – As in the Days of Noah: Setting the Stage
     00:04:00 – What Really Happened in the Days of Noah?
     00:06:28 – Gnosticism, Occult Knowledge & the Pursuit of Hidden Wisdom
     00:07:07 – Daniel 12:4 and the Increase of Knowledge
     00:08:53 – "Knowledge Is Power" and the End-Time Deception
     00:09:41 – The Danger of Chasing Every Rabbit Trail
     00:11:14 – When Christians Begin Questioning Scripture
     00:13:36 – Wisdom, Sorrow & Solomon's Warning
     00:14:18 – Genesis 6, DNA, and the Days of Noah
     00:16:01 – Gender, Transhumanism & the First Chapters of Genesis
     00:18:26 – A Seed War: Altering God's Creation
     00:20:49 – GMOs, Food, and the Pattern of Corruption
     00:21:31 – Is Satan Deceived by His Own Lies?
     00:23:09 – Luciferian Narratives and Reprobate Minds
     00:25:22 – AI, Ancient Technology & the Return of Old Patterns
     00:27:42 – The Metaverse, Phones & Losing Touch with Creation
     00:29:45 – History Repeats: The Pattern Before the Flood
     00:30:53 – UFOs, Disclosure & End-Time Deception
     00:34:23 – Truthers, Psyops & Learning Discernment
     00:36:46 – Don't Fall for the "Everything Is a Psyop" Trap
     00:38:57 – Information Overload and Spiritual Distraction
     00:41:23 – Angelic Beings, Hybrids & Ancient Mysteries
     00:43:00 – Giants, DNA & the Shroud of Turin Theory
     00:45:10 – Relics, Cursed Objects & Spiritual Counterfeits
     00:47:27 – Controlled Opposition & Testing Every Spirit
     00:49:52 – Taking a Break from the Fringe
     00:52:16 – Countermeasures, Spiritual Warfare & Staying Grounded
     00:54:28 – What Might the Antichrist Actually Look Like?
     00:59:12 – A Physical Antichrist, Patterns & Biblical Consistency
     01:01:31 – Torahism, the Law & the Finished Work of Christ
     01:03:53 – Patterns, Discernment & Avoiding Deception
     01:06:13 – Law, Grace & the Difference Between Justice and Legalism
     01:07:58 – Final Encouragement: Stay Anchored in Christ
     01:08:31 – Amy's Closing Prayer
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    E217 Close Encounters of the Unrefined Kind

    20/07/2026 | 51 mins.
    Government hearings. Whistleblowers. UFO disclosure. Alien claims. Christians calling everything demonic.
    But what if the real answer is far more complicated?
    Dr. Jonathan Kendall joins Brandon to explore the growing evidence surrounding UFOs and UAPs while challenging the simplistic explanations often offered from every side of the debate.
    Together they discuss government evidence, consciousness, high strangeness, extradimensional realities, ancient encounters, quantum physics, biblical worldview, and why the phenomenon may force us to rethink how we understand reality itself.
    Rather than choosing between "aliens" or "demons," this conversation asks whether we've been asking the wrong questions all along.

    Amazon - New Book
    https://x.com/JKendallMD
    https://jonathankendallmd.com/
    Timestamps:
    00:28 Introduction and welcome back Dr. Jonathan Kendall
    02:41 Jonathan's lifelong interest in UFOs and the paranormal
    03:56 His grandfather's mysterious West Virginia UFO encounter
    05:27 Has Jonathan ever had a UFO experience himself?
    07:20 What convinced him UFOs are a real phenomenon?
    09:55 Project Blue Book and the overwhelming evidence
    13:31 The strongest evidence for UAPs today
    15:37 Government secrecy, disclosure, and finding the truth
    17:08 Are we actually moving toward disclosure?
    19:14 Extraterrestrial vs. extradimensional vs. spiritual explanations
    21:02 Beyond Cartesian dualism: a new way of understanding reality
    23:08 The case for the extraterrestrial hypothesis
    25:04 Why Jonathan ultimately leans toward the extradimensional view
    27:20 Separating genuine encounters from misidentifications
    29:28 Super Psi, consciousness, and paranormal experiences
    31:49 Why reality isn't simply "either/or"
    32:47 Are aliens really demons?
    34:37 Logic, conspiracies, and the danger of flattening reality
    36:58 Jacques Vallée, Diana Pasulka, and Christian perspectives
    39:14 What Jonathan hopes readers take away from his book
    40:41 Jinn, fairies, folklore, and ancient parallels
    44:00 Biblical examples of the physical and spiritual overlapping
    45:55 Time travel, quantum physics, and the transfiguration
    47:18 Where to connect with Jonathan and his work
    48:04 Thoughts on the new disclosure movie
    49:11 "We need to get away from the idea that UFOs are demons."
    49:56 Jonathan's final encouragement to Christians
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What’s beyond the veil? The nature of this world we live in is unrefined. Yes, we live in this multifaceted world of the SEEN and the UNSEEN. In each episode we go beyond the veil in our own personal unrefined way. Our podcast recipe includes: the supernatural, the strange and unexplained from a biblical perspective, PLUS deep dives into the Word AND a wee bit of the conspiratorial for good measure.
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