E181 Widespread Panic? Or Widespread Programming?
In this episode, Brandon, Lindsy, and cohost Jennifer Parks dive into the history and fallout of the 1980s “Satanic Panic,” focusing on the rise and fall of Christian comedian Mike Warnke. They unpack how Warnke’s book The Satan Seller and testimony about being a former Satanic high priest helped spark nationwide hysteria—and how later investigations unraveled parts of his story, leading to his public disgrace. The trio explores the broader cultural forces at play, from media manipulation and government psyops to church fear-mongering, and reflect on how believers treat fallen heroes. The conversation weaves humor, empathy, and insight into fear-based religion, false memory syndrome, and grace in the aftermath of failure.Timestamps:00:00:54 Welcome 00:03:13 Who was Mike Warnke? 00:05:30 Warnke’s early life and beginnings 00:07:52 His rise as a Christian comedian 00:10:18 Testimony of salvation in bootcamp 00:12:40 Did Warnke cause the Satanic Panic? 00:14:47 “Michelle Remembers” and false memory roots 00:17:10 Church mysticism and altered states 00:19:36 The rise of the Satanic Panic 00:21:55 Fear, media, and moral hysteria 00:24:17 McMartin case and guilt by association 00:26:43 Cornerstone Magazine exposes Warnke 00:29:09 Divorce, the church, and hypocrisy 00:31:30 Self-righteousness and judgment 00:33:52 How do we treat fallen believers? 00:36:16 Jeffrey Victor’s The Satanic Panic and anti-supernatural bias00:38:39 Reason, discernment, and the Wesleyan quadrilateral00:41:03 If Satan can’t stop you, he’ll push you too far00:43:25 How love treats fallen heroes00:45:52 Shame vs conviction in Christian life00:48:16 Grace and the value of people00:50:36 Church discipline and restoration00:52:59 Modern fallout and confused truth00:55:21 The Delphi murders and Odinism connection00:57:45 Government psyops and the “deep cult”01:00:03 CIA, media control, and discrediting SRA01:02:28 Where is Mike Warnke now?01:04:46 Brokenness, mercy, and redemption01:06:51 Grace, judgment, and final reflections