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Unrefined Podcast .com

Brandon Spain & Lindsy Waters
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    E191 Holy Without The Hustle

    19/1/2026 | 1h 20 mins.
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    Most believers know they’re forgiven… but still live like they’re on probation. In this conversation, we unpack what changes when holiness flows out of who you already are in Christ instead of who you’re trying to become. We get practical about the “striving trap,” mixed-covenant theology, abiding without making it another performance, and why the heart is the real battleground where belief becomes fruit. Plus, a closing prayer and a timely word for Brandon about finishing what God put in his hands.
    https://Forward.church
    https://clintbyars.com
    Timestamps:
    00:00:48 Holiness flowing from identity not striving
    00:03:05 Identity as the starting point for behavior
    00:05:29 New creation reality and “who you are in spirit”
    00:09:57 Ontological shift what kind of being are you now
    00:14:45 Mind renewal living within what you already have
    00:17:07 Abiding as response to Him abiding in us
    00:21:43 Why negative self-beliefs feel “humble” in church culture
    00:24:02 Mixed covenant confusion and reframing Jesus’ teachings
    00:33:03 No dusty corners seated with Him as true humility
    00:37:59 Heart in Scripture why it matters so much
    00:40:23 Parable of the sower heart soil Word seed Kingdom fruit
    00:45:09 Quantum imagery observation faith and manifestation
    00:52:08 Practical rest and business goals identity shapes decisions
    00:59:27 Intention dominion and the dangers of going “law of attraction”
    01:08:48 Recommended practice using 52 Things Jesus Did for You
    01:13:27 Repentance as mind change not groveling confession
    01:15:38 Closing prayer to yield and trust
    01:17:54 Prophetic encouragement to finish the book
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    E190 Sticky Faith and False Comforts

    12/1/2026 | 19 mins.
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    In Part 1 of this conversation, Brandon and returning guest Tim Holloway explore the Didache (an early Christian teaching document rediscovered in the 1800s) and what it reveals about the earliest church’s worldview: two ways—life and death, love and chaos, true source vs false sources.
    They unpack why identity matters before you read obedience-heavy texts, how shame drives “self-soothing” behaviors, why attachment to God changes everything, and how the early church viewed baptism as an initiation marked by seriousness, fasting, and formation. They also tease what’s coming next: Eucharist, unity, and early church order that challenges modern assumptions.
    Timestamps:
    00:00:50 Brandon welcomes Tim back and sets up the Didache conversation
    00:03:18 Rediscovery era why the Didache matters “for a time such as this”
    00:05:39 Augustine and early church pivot points
    00:07:48 Ground-floor Christianity loosely held practices surprises ahead
    00:10:17 The two ways worldview life vs death and modern spiritual “both-and” thinking
    00:12:40 Narrow way thoughts identity before reading obedience texts
    00:14:41 Sermon on the Mount echoes loving God neighbor enemy
    00:17:01 Heart condition legalism vs grace shame enters the convo
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    E189 Ping Pong Faith and the Way Out

    05/1/2026 | 1h 19 mins.
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    Sometimes growth in our faith feels less like a ladder and more like getting lost on a trail you thought you already mapped. In this conversation, Brandon is joined in-studio by Jen Parks and Lindsy Waters, and they bring back Dr. Robin Braun to talk about why believers get stuck, why online “metabrawls” keep brawling, and what actually changes when God matures us beyond rule-keeping into relationship.
    Robin breaks down a stages-of-faith framework (drawing from James Fowler and a Christian translation of it) and connects it to what she sees in inner healing work: people who say they trust God, but carry subconscious beliefs that God is angry, punitive, or performance-based. The crew digs into deconstruction, limiting beliefs, church hurt, and why many walk away when their faith was built more on systems than on a living relationship.
    It gets personal too. Robin shares parts of her own story, the cost of hard seasons, and how “nothing is wasted” becomes real on the other side. The thread running through the whole episode is simple but not shallow: when love becomes the aim, the room changes.

    https://drrobinbraun.com
    https://integratedlifestrategies.com
    click for link to book-Living Like a Son Book -https://amzn.to/4pZMLyZ
    click for link to book - Thrive -https://amzn.to/4aGDYNN
    Missions Robin mentioned- https://www.thriveholistichealingministries.com/get-involved
    Timestamps:
    00:00:51 Topic stages of maturity and introduce Dr. Robin Braun
    00:03:14 Brandon frames the “maturity crisis” as more than doctrine
    00:05:37 Robin connects stages of faith to deprogramming beliefs and father wounds
    00:07:56 Robin’s background and early foundation God as a loving Father
    00:10:13 Early supernatural encounters and pursuing theology from intimacy
    00:12:35 Realizing theological ambiguity and why it forces relationship
    00:14:56 Why some deconstruct and don’t come back relationship vs rule system
    00:17:14 Jen asks for a clear framework of the stages
    00:19:25 Stages two and three described tribe shifts and conflict
    00:21:37 Stage four deconstruction and moving toward love
    00:24:01 Holding beliefs loosely and dignity to disagree
    00:26:20 Can people shift stages across seasons and areas of life
    00:28:46 Practical wisdom don’t respond online in heightened emotion
    00:30:50 Brandon shares his own rock bottom deconstruction story
    00:32:50 Jen’s puzzle piece analogy for faith and fringe experiences
    00:35:11 Limiting beliefs ant and spider circle illustration
    00:37:28 Robin’s four stages of healing framework
    00:39:39 Brandon on both and not either or and navigating gray
    00:42:04 Rewriting history theology shifts and removal of miracle accounts
    00:44:31 Rick Warren example and fallout of doctrinal dogmatism
    00:46:52 Bill Gothard and patriarchy damage performance culture
    00:49:08 What changes when disagreements don’t transform anyone
    00:51:33 How hyper performance creates self hatred and fear
    00:53:48 Robin shares marriage story boundaries release and recompense
    00:56:12 Nothing is wasted redemption and compassion formed through suffering
    00:58:32 Brandon on mystery sacramental worldview and trust
    01:00:43 Heart mind alignment trust vs belief and inner wiring
    01:03:03 Porto illustration and carrying beliefs into the heart
    01:05:28 Encouragement for listeners faith shifting as growth not loss
    01:07:51 Practical next steps find guides get healing rebuild relationship
    01:10:15 Robin shares websites training and nonprofit support work
    01:12:29 Where to start drrobinbraun.com vs integratedlifestrategies.com
    01:14:48 Taking back tools mislabeling everything as new age
    01:17:10 Robin prays over listeners and the church
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    E188 God-Shaped Not Me-Shaped

    22/12/2025 | 1h 13 mins.
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    Brandon and Lindsy sit down with returning guest Anthony Delgado to talk about prayer that actually forms you instead of turning into a spiritual transaction. They unpack why so many believers say “I prayed and it didn’t work,” and how that often reveals we were aiming prayer at the wrong target. Anthony frames the Lord’s Prayer as more than a model or a script it’s a theology of prayer shaped by God, rooted in the Fatherhood of God, and meant to draw us into communion that reshapes desire, identity, and daily life.
    The episode also gets honest about performance-oriented prayer culture, the difference between fervency as trust vs fervency as manipulation, and why starting with adoration changes everything. Along the way they hit liturgy, sacramental imagination, memorialism vs real presence, and practical on-ramps for people who feel distant from God or feel stuck praying only for outcomes.
    The book: God-Shaped Prayer
    https://www.palmdale.church/
    https://www.anthonydelgado.net/
    Podcast: Biblical Re-Enchantment
    https://www.youtube.com/@AnthonyDelgadoBR
    Timestamps:
    00:00:50 Welcome back Anthony Delgado and why this book matters
    00:02:54 Why Anthony wrote God-Shaped Prayer and the church context
    00:05:05 What makes this Lord’s Prayer book different
    00:07:09 Biblical theology angle tracing motifs through Scripture
    00:09:34 Prayer as communion with the Father not fear of praying wrong
    00:12:01 Why “Our Father” hits different for the original audience
    00:14:22 What God-shaped prayer means shaped by God not our rules
    00:16:45 Neo-spiritual “asking the universe” vs Christian prayer
    00:19:07 Starting with nearness our Father before awe and holiness
    00:23:50 Writing a “useful book” something to chew on every page
    00:26:09 The real goal of prayer and the fervency confusion
    00:28:31 Identity first not performance and the father’s lap picture
    00:30:09 What Anthony prayed like before and the ACTS framework
    00:32:30 Why adoration and confession come first then thanksgiving
    00:37:19 Sacramental imagination word and table and worship as formation
    00:42:01 Memorialism vs real presence and obedience as receiving blessing
    00:46:35 Prayer and Eucharistic life as fleeing the giants of the world
    00:58:30 Where to start if you feel distant from God rule of prayer
    01:03:14 Posture and the body in prayer and neural pathways
    01:05:38 Where to find Anthony online and his podcast work
    01:07:59 Workbook announcement and how it’s structured
    01:10:03 Anthony prays the Lord’s Prayer themes over listeners
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    E187 Talking "Fringe" Without Causing a Family Intervention

    15/12/2025 | 57 mins.
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    Some conversations begin with a whisper… and before you know it, you’re knee-deep in the strange world of fringe theories, spiritual puzzles, and the awkward silence that follows when you bring them up at dinner. In this episode, we lean into the art of talking about the unseen without losing your spouse, your friends, or your social standing. Cohost Jen Parks joins us to break down how to communicate the blurry stuff with wisdom, patience, humor, and a whole lot of relational finesse. We get into cognitive dissonance, defensiveness, spiritual warfare, and why you can’t fire-hose your way into someone’s worldview. From coffee-pot analogies to puzzle-piece theology, this conversation is packed with practical tools for anyone trying to introduce fringe topics to the people they love. It’s part communication workshop, part spiritual formation, and part, “Please don’t think I’m crazy.”
    OHH- and there's a "new guy" (cohost) you get to meet in this one!
    Timestamps:
    00:00:51 Setting up today’s topic: fringe talk without scaring people
    00:02:10 Jen shares what inspired this episode
    00:03:15 Persuasion, winsome speech, and Proverbs 25:11
    00:04:50 Fear, pride, and defensiveness in conversations
    00:05:36 Cognitive dissonance explained
    00:07:20 Intent behind questions and how Jesus handled it
    00:09:45 Asking the Holy Spirit for the right words
    00:10:22 Evangelism through questions
    00:11:45 You’re the coffee pot principle
    00:12:43 Trajectory and small shifts over time
    00:13:50 Insider language and jargon problems
    00:15:05 Relationship before explanation
    00:17:16 Percolator analogy and slow spiritual conversations
    00:18:50 Bigfoot, breadcrumbs, and worldview expansion
    00:19:38 Why fringe topics matter to spiritual formation
    00:22:00 Friendship before being “right”
    00:24:18 Women's approach: you can influence, not control
    00:26:45 Husbands as protectors and guardrails
    00:28:55 Band of Brothers: “salute the rank, not the man”
    00:31:33 Asking questions and listening well
    00:33:47 Fire-hosing vs slow growth
    00:36:07 Early experiences listening to fringe podcasts
    00:38:25 The “all knowledge” paper and circle analogy
    00:40:41 Using secondhand listening at home
    00:42:52 Growth, discernment, and humility
    00:45:17 Requesting reciprocal respect
    00:47:42 Don’t make it hard for someone to change their mind
    00:49:36 Conspiracy pitfalls and being honest about “I don’t know”
    00:52:03 Collecting puzzle pieces and lifelong learning
    00:54:28 The glory of kings to search a matter out
    00:55:43 Closing encouragement and future episode topics

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What’s beyond the veil? The nature of this world we live in is unrefined. Yes, we live in this multifaceted world of the SEEN and the UNSEEN. In each episode we go beyond the veil in our own personal unrefined way. Our podcast recipe includes: the supernatural, the strange and unexplained from a biblical perspective, PLUS deep dives into the Word AND a wee bit of the conspiratorial for good measure.
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