E186 Pagan Panic or Holy Night?
We are shaking things up in 2026--Make sure to JOIN US for ALL the content coming - https://join.unrefinedpodcast.comEvery December, it feels like the internet dusts off the same “Christmas is pagan” memes and lobs them into everyone’s feeds, and honestly… I’m over it. In this conversation, I sit down with Lindsy and our guest co-navigator Jennifer to ask where these claims actually came from and whether they hold up to real history. We talk about early church evidence for celebrating Jesus’ birth in December, why conception dates mattered in the ancient world, and how sacred time belongs to God—not Saturn, Mithras, or Yuletide spirits. We also unravel Alexander Hislop’s The Two Babylons, Nimrod conspiracies, green man imagery, and the fear that you might be “accidentally” worshiping other gods by putting up a tree. Along the way, we hit on mission, sacred space, and why intent matters more than internet paranoia. If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re allowed to enjoy Christmas without guilt, this one’s for you with Dr. Judd Burton.https://www.burtonbeyond.net/https://drjuddburton.com/https://join.unrefinedpodcast.comTimestamps:00:03:16 Is Christmas actually pagan?00:05:39 Why celebrating Jesus’ birth matters00:07:56 Birth vs conception and sacred timing00:10:20 Shepherds, winter flocks, and December00:12:42 Saturnalia and Sol Invictus explained00:15:08 Constantine myths and Jesus image00:17:24 Yuletide, grottos, and reclaiming sites00:19:20 St Nicholas, Nicaea, and legend00:21:45 Enter Alexander Hislop and Two Babylons00:23:59 Nimrod, Apkalū, and pareidolia00:26:17 Fear, deception, and trusting God vs the devil00:28:33 Magi, astrology, and God using pagan culture00:31:00 Christmas trees, Asherah poles, and intent00:33:08 Law, grace, and going back under Torah00:35:31 Demonic counterfeits and mythic archetypes00:37:52 Generational attacks, giants, and cosmic war00:40:14 Real danger of anti-Christmas teaching00:42:35 Judd’s projects, classes, and Christmas studies
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