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  • What's Good Dough?

    Jeremy and Michele of Gabacool Provisions

    17/03/2026 | 1h 51 mins.
    What if the smartest way to start a pizza business isn’t opening a restaurant… but avoiding rent entirely?
    In this episode of the What's Good Dough Podcast, we spend the day with Jeremy and Michelle, the team behind Gabacool Pizza, an award-winning pizza pop-up that built a powerful brand without the massive overhead of a traditional restaurant.
    From prepping in a commissary kitchen to selling out at brewery pop-ups, they’ve built a business that prioritizes flexibility, creativity, and community.
    Throughout the episode, they break down their entire workflow—from prep and transport logistics to branding, menu design, and the realities of running a food business without a permanent location.
    If you've ever thought about starting a pizza business but were intimidated by restaurant rent, this episode offers a real blueprint.
    Highlights:
    02:57 – Arriving at the Petaluma commissary kitchen
    03:12 – Why pop-ups still need a legal kitchen space
    04:25 – Storage rules and health regulations for food businesses
    04:57 – Managing trips between the kitchen and the event location
    05:39 – Preparing ingredients for hundreds of pizzas in a shared fridge
    06:39 – Organizing dough trays and prep workflow
    09:41 – Why their commissary kitchen supports the local community
    10:43 – Supporting artists and designing the Gabacool brand
    11:19 – How they originally transported their entire pizza operation in small cars
    12:00 – Designing a van setup for maximum efficiency
    16:00 – Packing equipment and organizing mobile pizza operations
    20:00 – Why brewery pop-ups work as a business model
    23:57 – Building real relationships with brewery partners
    25:10 – Selling out early and the challenges of high demand
    30:00 – The realities of running a pizza pop-up every weekend
    37:24 – The physical demands of catering and pop-up events
    38:53 – Creating a clean and memorable pop-up brand experience
    46:05 – Lighting, propane, and the technical side of running a mobile kitchen
    50:00 – Dialing in oven temperatures for outdoor pizza service
    01:00:00 – The moment a pop-up setup starts feeling like a real restaurant
    01:05:49 – Creating weekly specials using local farm ingredients
    01:06:20 – Non-food tasks required to run a food business
    01:06:30 – Branding, merch design, and social media strategy
    01:08:55 – Running a business without a traditional office
    01:10:48 – Designing marketing materials from a phone or tablet
    01:11:04 – Michelle’s background in events, design, and hospitality
    01:15:30 – Learning to run multiple pizza ovens during service
    01:16:40 – The trial-and-error process of improving systems and workflow
    01:16:47 – Winning a scholarship to Pizza University
    01:19:00 – Overcoming imposter syndrome in the pizza industry
    01:31:25 – Dough ball size, fermentation, and pizza technique
    01:34:00 – Jeremy’s culinary school experience and career path
    01:35:42 – Breaking down how their pizza bakes in the oven
    01:50:24 – Reflecting on making over 20,000 pizzas and building a community

    Follow them:https://www.gabacoolprovisions.com/
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    Thank you to our show sponsors:
    Bacio Cheese:
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    Topic:
    pizza pop up, pizza pop up business, pizza pop up restaurant, starting a pizza business, pizza business blueprint, how to start a pizzeria, pizzeria startup costs, restaurant startup without rent, pizza entrepreneurship, pizza business model, commissary kitchen pizza, pop up restaurant business, brewery pop up food, pizza brand building, pizzeria marketing, pizza business tips, pizza entrepreneur story, award winning pizza
  • What's Good Dough?

    The $0 Rent Strategy That Launched An Award Winning Pizza Concept

    08/03/2026 | 10 mins.
    What if the smartest way to start a pizza business isn’t opening a restaurant… but avoiding rent altogether?
    In this episode, we spend the day with Jeremy and Michelle of Gabacool, an award-winning pizza pop-up that built a powerful brand without the massive overhead of a traditional pizzeria. From prepping in a $235/month commissary kitchen to selling out every weekend at brewery pop-ups, they’ve created a system that prioritizes flexibility, strong branding, and high-quality ingredients.
    We break down how their pop-up model works, why they refuse to pay venues to operate, the importance of creating a memorable brand presence, and how thoughtful dough fermentation and ingredient sourcing elevate their pizza. It’s a blueprint for anyone who wants to start a food business without the risk of a full restaurant lease.
    Highlights:
    00:00 – Women’s Pizza Month scholarship announcement
    00:22 – Why most famous pizzerias are run by men
    00:35 – The surprising cost Gabacool completely avoids
    00:51 – Introducing Jeremy & Michelle of Gabacool
    01:09 – Inside their $235/month commissary kitchen
    01:30 – Storing ingredients and prepping for 300–400 pizzas a weekend
    01:53 – Why traditional restaurant rent can reach $5k–$10k
    02:04 – Packing up for the pop-up service
    02:28 – Running a “sell-out model” for pizza nights
    02:43 – Arriving at Moonlight Brewing in Santa Rosa
    02:53 – The brewery partnership model
    03:04 – Why they refuse to pay venues to operate
    03:21 – Running a pizza business with almost zero fixed overhead
    03:47 – Setting up the pop-up restaurant tent
    04:03 – The $6,000 custom tent and branding strategy
    04:41 – Why strong visual branding matters for pop-ups
    04:53 – How branding helped people remember Gabacool
    05:05 – Setting up the kitchen and becoming a restaurant in minutes
    05:27 – The origin story of the Gabacool name
    05:52 – Running the business beyond cooking: design, website, merch
    06:06 – Building the business without a traditional office
    06:13 – Winning a Pizza University scholarship
    06:41 – How their pop-up kitchen workflow operates
    07:05 – Their dough formula: flour blend, hydration, and fermentation
    07:50 – Culinary training and lessons from the CIA
    08:14 – Evaluating the final pizza bake
    08:26 – The constant tweaking required for pop-ups
    09:07 – Sponsor segment: managing cheese costs in pizzerias
    09:11 – The “Snail of Approval” and what it represents
    09:42 – Growing from 10 pizzas a night to 65+
    10:03 – Why community is the real reward of running a pizzeria
    10:38 – Final takeaway: building a premium brand without a storefront
    Follow them:https://www.gabacoolprovisions.com/
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61557383763722
    https://www.instagram.com/gabacool_provisions?igshid=NzZlODBkYWE4Ng%3D%3D&utm_source=qr
    Thank you to our show sponsors:
    Bacio Cheese:
    https://bit.ly/3FmQ3up
    Corto:https://bit.ly/457DNII
    Join my Instagram Community Channel: https://www.instagram.com/channel/AbbWnReTYIlCfO21/
    Patreon Page: patreon.com/whatsgooddough
    DM @whatsgooddoughhttps://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/email me: [email protected]
    Topic:
    pizza pop up, pizza pop up business, pizza pop up restaurant, starting a pizza business, pizza business blueprint, how to start a pizzeria, pizzeria startup costs, restaurant startup without rent, pizza entrepreneurship, pizza business model, commissary kitchen pizza, pop up restaurant business, brewery pop up food, pizza brand building, pizzeria marketing, pizza business tips, pizza entrepreneur story, award winning pizza, artisan pizza making, pizza dough fermentation, pizza dough recipe, pizza dough hydration, pizza fermentation process, pizza making techniques, pizza chef tips, pizza industry insights, pizza business strategy, pizza startup guide, mobile pizza business, food pop up business, restaurant pop up concept, pizza workflow kitchen, pizza equipment setup, pizza branding strategy, pizza small business,
  • What's Good Dough?

    Charlie Anderson of Good Pizza

    22/02/2026 | 59 mins.
    What happens when an engineer quits his job, goes all-in on pizza, and builds a slice shop obsessed with consistency?

    In this episode of What’s Good Dough, Eidref is with Charlie Anderson, founder of Good Pizza Cleveland, to talk about the real work behind opening a modern slice shop. From menu minimalism and workflow design to dough fermentation, content creation, and long-term vision, this is a deep dive into what it actually takes to make great pizza— consistently.

    Highlights:
    2:05 – Building a New York-style slice shop in Cleveland
    4:15 – Modern pizzeria branding & restaurant interior design strategy
    6:00 – Why a 6-item pizza menu improves consistency and profitability
    8:30 – Weighing pizza toppings for cost control & operational consistency
    10:50 – Commercial pizza oven management: stone temp, bake time & workflow
    13:40 – The realities of running a high-volume slice shop
    15:30 – Quitting engineering to open a pizzeria full-time
    18:10 – From pizza pop-ups to brick-and-mortar restaurant ownership
    21:00 – Imposter syndrome as a pizza entrepreneur & content creator
    24:10 – Reverse-engineering New York pizza & building a pizza YouTube channel
    27:00 – Using Instagram & organic social media to grow a local restaurant
    30:00 – Poolish vs straight dough: 73% hydration pizza dough formula
    33:20 – Controlling dough temperature for consistent fermentation
    36:10 – Two-stage dough balling technique for stronger pizza crust
    40:00 – Why long fermentation doesn’t always mean better pizza
    43:00 – How to identify over-proofed pizza dough in a restaurant setting
    46:20 – Slice shop bottlenecks: staffing, speed & labor efficiency
    50:00 – Increasing restaurant revenue through operational efficiency
    Follow them:⁠https://goodpizzacleveland.com/⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/goodpizzacleveland/?hl=en⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@goodpizzacleveland?lang=en⁠
    ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@GoodPizzaCleveland⁠

    Thank you to our show sponsors:
    Bacio Cheese:
    ⁠https://bit.ly/3FmQ3up⁠
    Corto:⁠https://bit.ly/457DNII⁠

    Join my Instagram Community Channel: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/channel/AbbWnReTYIlCfO21/⁠

    Patreon Page: ⁠patreon.com/whatsgooddough⁠
    DM ⁠@whatsgooddough⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/⁠email me: ⁠[email protected]

    Topic:
    pizza podcast, what’s good dough podcast, good pizza cleveland, charlie anderson pizza, pizza business podcast, opening a pizzeria, slice shop business, modern pizzeria design, pizza dough fermentation, poolish pizza dough, high hydration pizza dough, new york style pizza, pizza consistency systems, restaurant workflow efficiency, small menu pizzeria, pizza by the slice, pizza oven management, pizza SOPs, scaling a restaurant, pizza content creation, restaurant social media strategy, pizza consulting, pizza entrepreneur story, food business podcast, behind the scenes pizzeria, pizza making process, dough fermentation tips, pizza equipment workflow, independent pizzeria, pizza industry insights
  • What's Good Dough?

    Why This Cleveland Pizza Shop Only Sells 6 Items

    15/02/2026 | 8 mins.
    Most pizzerias have a huge menu, but this man, Charlie Anderson, only sells six pizzas. And this strategy is helping him in his quest to be the best pizzeria in the world. Highlights:0:00 – Why a Tight Menu Keeps Slices Fresh0:40 – Pros & Cons of Offering Fewer Pizzas1:20 – Meet Charlie Anderson of Good Pizza Cleveland2:00 – From First Pizza to Opening a Pizzeria2:45 – Designing a Modern Slice Shop Experience3:30 – Building a New York–Style Slice Shop in Cleveland4:10 – Why Good Pizza Only Offers Six Pizzas4:50 – Dialing in the Core Menu5:30 – Making the Pepperoni Pie6:00 – Four-Cheese Blend Breakdown6:30 – Shredding Cheese In-House6:50 – Solving the Sauce Consistency Problem7:20 – Sauce Application Without a Ladle7:50 – Perfect Slice Bake & Reheat StrategyFollow them:https://goodpizzacleveland.com/https://www.instagram.com/goodpizzacleveland/?hl=enhttps://www.tiktok.com/@goodpizzacleveland?lang=en https://www.youtube.com/@GoodPizzaClevelandThank you to our show sponsors:Bacio Cheese:https://bit.ly/3FmQ3up Cheesehog- let them know What's Good Dough Sent [email protected] my Instagram Community Channel: https://www.instagram.com/channel/AbbWnReTYIlCfO21/ Patreon Page: [patreon.com/whatsgooddough](http://patreon.com/whatsgooddough)DM [@whatsgooddough](https://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/#)https://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/email me: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])Topic:pizza podcast, what’s good dough podcast, good pizza cleveland, charlie anderson pizza, pizza business podcast, opening a pizzeria, slice shop business, modern pizzeria design, pizza dough fermentation, poolish pizza dough, high hydration pizza dough, new york style pizza, pizza consistency systems, restaurant workflow efficiency, small menu pizzeria, pizza by the slice, pizza oven management, pizza SOPs, scaling a restaurant, pizza content creation, restaurant social media strategy, pizza consulting, pizza entrepreneur story, food business podcast, behind the scenes pizzeria, pizza making process, dough fermentation tips, pizza equipment workflow, independent pizzeria, pizza industry insights
  • What's Good Dough?

    How A 1000 Sq Ft Slice Shop Does 2 Million A Year

    18/01/2026 | 10 mins.
    What happens when you open a slice shop during a pandemic, with no dining room and no walk-in traffic?
    In this episode, we sit down with Lars Smith, Chef and Co-Owner of State of Mind Slice House and the mind behind State of Mind Slice House in Palo Alto. Lars shares how lessons from past failures, smart pricing, and intentional design helped him build a high-performing slice shop during and after the pandemic.

    Highlights:
    0:52 – Opening during the pandemic
    1:39 – Why smaller restaurants are winning right now
    2:14 – Location strategy without foot traffic
    3:27 – Designing the slice case
    4:27 – Freshness standards and waste control
    4:56 – Pricing slices and accounting for waste
    5:51 – Customer-first mindset vs cost-saving mindset
    6:21 – Weekly sales and waste benchmarks
    6:53 – Scaling recipes from restaurant to slice shop
    7:46 – Advice for aspiring slice shop owners
    8:34 – Designing customer flow for high-volume service
    9:19 – Final thoughts and takeaways

    Follow:https://www.instagram.com/lboogiesmith/?hl=en
    https://www.instagram.com/stateofmindslicehouse/
    https://www.facebook.com/stateofmindslicehouse/
    https://www.stateofmindslicehouse.com/

    Thank you to our show sponsors:
    Bacio Cheese:
    https://bit.ly/3FmQ3up
    Corto:https://bit.ly/457DNII

    Join my Instagram Community Channel: https://www.instagram.com/channel/AbbWnReTYIlCfO21/

    Patreon Page: patreon.com/whatsgooddough

    DM @whatsgooddoughhttps://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/email me: [email protected]

    Topic:
    pizza slice shop, slice house business, pizza shop success, small pizza shop, $2M pizza shop, high volume pizza shop, restaurant business model, pizza shop operations, slice shop pricing, pizza waste management, restaurant profit margins, pizza shop startup, opening a slice shop, pizza shop design, restaurant flow design, grab and go restaurant, pandemic restaurant success, pizza entrepreneur, restaurant owner interview, pizza podcast, food business podcast, how to open a pizza shop, pizza shop location strategy, slice case design, pizza industry insights, restaurant operations strategy, pizza business tips, independent pizza shop, state of mind slice house, lars smith pizza

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About What's Good Dough?

I quit my job for pizza. Should you? My name is Eidref Laxa and I am a Mobile Caterer, Ooni Ambassador, and Pan Pizza Champion. Pizza changed my life. I'm guessing that if you're here, it's already changed yours. I started this podcast to learn about pizza and starting a pizzeria. I’m not ready to open a brick and mortar just yet, but I’m still obsessed with learning from pizza operators. Because one day, I just might. I'm just busy doing other things first.
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