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  • What's Good Dough?

    The $0 Rent Strategy That Launched An Award Winning Pizza Concept

    08/03/2026 | 10 mins.
    What if the smartest way to start a pizza business isn’t opening a restaurant… but avoiding rent altogether?
    In this episode, we spend the day with Jeremy and Michelle of Gabacool, an award-winning pizza pop-up that built a powerful brand without the massive overhead of a traditional pizzeria. From prepping in a $235/month commissary kitchen to selling out every weekend at brewery pop-ups, they’ve created a system that prioritizes flexibility, strong branding, and high-quality ingredients.
    We break down how their pop-up model works, why they refuse to pay venues to operate, the importance of creating a memorable brand presence, and how thoughtful dough fermentation and ingredient sourcing elevate their pizza. It’s a blueprint for anyone who wants to start a food business without the risk of a full restaurant lease.
    Highlights:
    00:00 – Women’s Pizza Month scholarship announcement
    00:22 – Why most famous pizzerias are run by men
    00:35 – The surprising cost Gabacool completely avoids
    00:51 – Introducing Jeremy & Michelle of Gabacool
    01:09 – Inside their $235/month commissary kitchen
    01:30 – Storing ingredients and prepping for 300–400 pizzas a weekend
    01:53 – Why traditional restaurant rent can reach $5k–$10k
    02:04 – Packing up for the pop-up service
    02:28 – Running a “sell-out model” for pizza nights
    02:43 – Arriving at Moonlight Brewing in Santa Rosa
    02:53 – The brewery partnership model
    03:04 – Why they refuse to pay venues to operate
    03:21 – Running a pizza business with almost zero fixed overhead
    03:47 – Setting up the pop-up restaurant tent
    04:03 – The $6,000 custom tent and branding strategy
    04:41 – Why strong visual branding matters for pop-ups
    04:53 – How branding helped people remember Gabacool
    05:05 – Setting up the kitchen and becoming a restaurant in minutes
    05:27 – The origin story of the Gabacool name
    05:52 – Running the business beyond cooking: design, website, merch
    06:06 – Building the business without a traditional office
    06:13 – Winning a Pizza University scholarship
    06:41 – How their pop-up kitchen workflow operates
    07:05 – Their dough formula: flour blend, hydration, and fermentation
    07:50 – Culinary training and lessons from the CIA
    08:14 – Evaluating the final pizza bake
    08:26 – The constant tweaking required for pop-ups
    09:07 – Sponsor segment: managing cheese costs in pizzerias
    09:11 – The “Snail of Approval” and what it represents
    09:42 – Growing from 10 pizzas a night to 65+
    10:03 – Why community is the real reward of running a pizzeria
    10:38 – Final takeaway: building a premium brand without a storefront
    Follow them:https://www.gabacoolprovisions.com/
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    Topic:
    pizza pop up, pizza pop up business, pizza pop up restaurant, starting a pizza business, pizza business blueprint, how to start a pizzeria, pizzeria startup costs, restaurant startup without rent, pizza entrepreneurship, pizza business model, commissary kitchen pizza, pop up restaurant business, brewery pop up food, pizza brand building, pizzeria marketing, pizza business tips, pizza entrepreneur story, award winning pizza, artisan pizza making, pizza dough fermentation, pizza dough recipe, pizza dough hydration, pizza fermentation process, pizza making techniques, pizza chef tips, pizza industry insights, pizza business strategy, pizza startup guide, mobile pizza business, food pop up business, restaurant pop up concept, pizza workflow kitchen, pizza equipment setup, pizza branding strategy, pizza small business,
  • What's Good Dough?

    Charlie Anderson of Good Pizza

    22/02/2026 | 59 mins.
    What happens when an engineer quits his job, goes all-in on pizza, and builds a slice shop obsessed with consistency?

    In this episode of What’s Good Dough, Eidref is with Charlie Anderson, founder of Good Pizza Cleveland, to talk about the real work behind opening a modern slice shop. From menu minimalism and workflow design to dough fermentation, content creation, and long-term vision, this is a deep dive into what it actually takes to make great pizza— consistently.

    Highlights:
    2:05 – Building a New York-style slice shop in Cleveland
    4:15 – Modern pizzeria branding & restaurant interior design strategy
    6:00 – Why a 6-item pizza menu improves consistency and profitability
    8:30 – Weighing pizza toppings for cost control & operational consistency
    10:50 – Commercial pizza oven management: stone temp, bake time & workflow
    13:40 – The realities of running a high-volume slice shop
    15:30 – Quitting engineering to open a pizzeria full-time
    18:10 – From pizza pop-ups to brick-and-mortar restaurant ownership
    21:00 – Imposter syndrome as a pizza entrepreneur & content creator
    24:10 – Reverse-engineering New York pizza & building a pizza YouTube channel
    27:00 – Using Instagram & organic social media to grow a local restaurant
    30:00 – Poolish vs straight dough: 73% hydration pizza dough formula
    33:20 – Controlling dough temperature for consistent fermentation
    36:10 – Two-stage dough balling technique for stronger pizza crust
    40:00 – Why long fermentation doesn’t always mean better pizza
    43:00 – How to identify over-proofed pizza dough in a restaurant setting
    46:20 – Slice shop bottlenecks: staffing, speed & labor efficiency
    50:00 – Increasing restaurant revenue through operational efficiency
    Follow them:⁠https://goodpizzacleveland.com/⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/goodpizzacleveland/?hl=en⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@goodpizzacleveland?lang=en⁠
    ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@GoodPizzaCleveland⁠

    Thank you to our show sponsors:
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    Topic:
    pizza podcast, what’s good dough podcast, good pizza cleveland, charlie anderson pizza, pizza business podcast, opening a pizzeria, slice shop business, modern pizzeria design, pizza dough fermentation, poolish pizza dough, high hydration pizza dough, new york style pizza, pizza consistency systems, restaurant workflow efficiency, small menu pizzeria, pizza by the slice, pizza oven management, pizza SOPs, scaling a restaurant, pizza content creation, restaurant social media strategy, pizza consulting, pizza entrepreneur story, food business podcast, behind the scenes pizzeria, pizza making process, dough fermentation tips, pizza equipment workflow, independent pizzeria, pizza industry insights
  • What's Good Dough?

    Why This Cleveland Pizza Shop Only Sells 6 Items

    15/02/2026 | 8 mins.
    Most pizzerias have a huge menu, but this man, Charlie Anderson, only sells six pizzas. And this strategy is helping him in his quest to be the best pizzeria in the world. Highlights:0:00 – Why a Tight Menu Keeps Slices Fresh0:40 – Pros & Cons of Offering Fewer Pizzas1:20 – Meet Charlie Anderson of Good Pizza Cleveland2:00 – From First Pizza to Opening a Pizzeria2:45 – Designing a Modern Slice Shop Experience3:30 – Building a New York–Style Slice Shop in Cleveland4:10 – Why Good Pizza Only Offers Six Pizzas4:50 – Dialing in the Core Menu5:30 – Making the Pepperoni Pie6:00 – Four-Cheese Blend Breakdown6:30 – Shredding Cheese In-House6:50 – Solving the Sauce Consistency Problem7:20 – Sauce Application Without a Ladle7:50 – Perfect Slice Bake & Reheat StrategyFollow them:https://goodpizzacleveland.com/https://www.instagram.com/goodpizzacleveland/?hl=enhttps://www.tiktok.com/@goodpizzacleveland?lang=en https://www.youtube.com/@GoodPizzaClevelandThank you to our show sponsors:Bacio Cheese:https://bit.ly/3FmQ3up Cheesehog- let them know What's Good Dough Sent [email protected] my Instagram Community Channel: https://www.instagram.com/channel/AbbWnReTYIlCfO21/ Patreon Page: [patreon.com/whatsgooddough](http://patreon.com/whatsgooddough)DM [@whatsgooddough](https://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/#)https://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/email me: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])Topic:pizza podcast, what’s good dough podcast, good pizza cleveland, charlie anderson pizza, pizza business podcast, opening a pizzeria, slice shop business, modern pizzeria design, pizza dough fermentation, poolish pizza dough, high hydration pizza dough, new york style pizza, pizza consistency systems, restaurant workflow efficiency, small menu pizzeria, pizza by the slice, pizza oven management, pizza SOPs, scaling a restaurant, pizza content creation, restaurant social media strategy, pizza consulting, pizza entrepreneur story, food business podcast, behind the scenes pizzeria, pizza making process, dough fermentation tips, pizza equipment workflow, independent pizzeria, pizza industry insights
  • What's Good Dough?

    How A 1000 Sq Ft Slice Shop Does 2 Million A Year

    18/01/2026 | 10 mins.
    What happens when you open a slice shop during a pandemic, with no dining room and no walk-in traffic?
    In this episode, we sit down with Lars Smith, Chef and Co-Owner of State of Mind Slice House and the mind behind State of Mind Slice House in Palo Alto. Lars shares how lessons from past failures, smart pricing, and intentional design helped him build a high-performing slice shop during and after the pandemic.

    Highlights:
    0:52 – Opening during the pandemic
    1:39 – Why smaller restaurants are winning right now
    2:14 – Location strategy without foot traffic
    3:27 – Designing the slice case
    4:27 – Freshness standards and waste control
    4:56 – Pricing slices and accounting for waste
    5:51 – Customer-first mindset vs cost-saving mindset
    6:21 – Weekly sales and waste benchmarks
    6:53 – Scaling recipes from restaurant to slice shop
    7:46 – Advice for aspiring slice shop owners
    8:34 – Designing customer flow for high-volume service
    9:19 – Final thoughts and takeaways

    Follow:https://www.instagram.com/lboogiesmith/?hl=en
    https://www.instagram.com/stateofmindslicehouse/
    https://www.facebook.com/stateofmindslicehouse/
    https://www.stateofmindslicehouse.com/

    Thank you to our show sponsors:
    Bacio Cheese:
    https://bit.ly/3FmQ3up
    Corto:https://bit.ly/457DNII

    Join my Instagram Community Channel: https://www.instagram.com/channel/AbbWnReTYIlCfO21/

    Patreon Page: patreon.com/whatsgooddough

    DM @whatsgooddoughhttps://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/email me: [email protected]

    Topic:
    pizza slice shop, slice house business, pizza shop success, small pizza shop, $2M pizza shop, high volume pizza shop, restaurant business model, pizza shop operations, slice shop pricing, pizza waste management, restaurant profit margins, pizza shop startup, opening a slice shop, pizza shop design, restaurant flow design, grab and go restaurant, pandemic restaurant success, pizza entrepreneur, restaurant owner interview, pizza podcast, food business podcast, how to open a pizza shop, pizza shop location strategy, slice case design, pizza industry insights, restaurant operations strategy, pizza business tips, independent pizza shop, state of mind slice house, lars smith pizza
  • What's Good Dough?

    They Told Him This Location Would Fail. Now He Sells 275 Pizzas in 4 Hours.

    11/01/2026 | 16 mins.
    What if everyone told you your pizzeria would fail because of its location — and you proved them wrong by selling 275 pizzas in just four hours?

    In this episode of What’s Good Dough, we sit down inside Fired Pizza in Stockton, CA — a pizzeria that broke nearly every “rule” people swear by in the restaurant industry.

    From being told their location would never work, to transitioning from a mobile pizza trailer to a full brick-and-mortar restaurant, this conversation goes deep on resilience, smart compromises, and building a business that customers choose to go out of their way for.

    We talk pizza philosophy, Neapolitan vs expectations, pricing challenges, build-out realities, and what it actually takes to survive (and thrive) in today’s pizza landscape.

    Highlights:
    0:00 – Why this pizzeria “should’ve failed”
    1:00 – Selling 200–275 pizzas in a single night
    1:55 – From food truck muscle memory to restaurant survival
    2:20 – Keeping the menu simple on purpose
    3:25 – Oven temps, bake times, and “send it straight to hell”
    3:55 – Educating customers on Neapolitan pizza
    4:50 – Ranch on pizza (yes, proudly)
    5:30 – Less cheese, more balance
    6:30 – Why pizza was always the end goal
    7:10 – Betting half their savings on a mobile pizza trailer
    8:10 – The worst first catering event imaginable
    9:00 – Why beer and wine drive ~30% of revenue
    10:00 – Pricing reality: $18 pizzas and customer pushback
    13:25 – Building out the restaurant themselves
    14:30 – A full year to open the doors
    15:05 – “What’s Good Dough?”

    Follow Fired Pizza:
    https://www.instagram.com/fired_pizza/?hl=en

    Thank you to our show sponsors:
    Bacio Cheese:
    https://bit.ly/3FmQ3up
    Corto:https://bit.ly/457DNII

    Join my Instagram Community Channel: https://www.instagram.com/channel/AbbWnReTYIlCfO21/

    Patreon Page: patreon.com/whatsgooddough

    DM @whatsgooddoughhttps://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/
    email me: [email protected]

    Topic:pizza podcast, pizzeria success story, opening a pizzeria, restaurant startup story, pizza business, Neapolitan pizza, wood fired pizza, pizza shop owner interview, food truck to restaurant, small business success, restaurant location myth, pizza entrepreneur, pizza industry, artisan pizza, independent pizzeria, California pizza, Stockton pizza, fired pizza, pizza oven cooking, pizza margins, restaurant pricing, pizza menu strategy, pizza education, craft beer and pizza, restaurant build out, DIY restaurant build, pizza trailer business, mobile pizza business, how to start a pizzeria, pizza business mistakes, pizza passion, pizza culture, food entrepreneurship

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About What's Good Dough?

I quit my job for pizza. Should you? My name is Eidref Laxa and I am a Mobile Caterer, Ooni Ambassador, and Pan Pizza Champion. Pizza changed my life. I'm guessing that if you're here, it's already changed yours. I started this podcast to learn about pizza and starting a pizzeria. I’m not ready to open a brick and mortar just yet, but I’m still obsessed with learning from pizza operators. Because one day, I just might. I'm just busy doing other things first.
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