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Breaking Form: a Poetry and Culture Podcast

Aaron Smith and James Allen Hall
Breaking Form: a Poetry and Culture Podcast
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  • Breaking Form: a Poetry and Culture Podcast

    Queer Emergence

    08/06/2026 | 28 mins.
    The queens shine a rainbow spotlight on some fabulous, emerging queer poets.

    Support Breaking Form by reviewing the show on Apple Podcasts here.
    Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series. BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE is available from Bridwell Press. James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books. 

     Notes:
    Xavier Searle is a poet and educator. A recipient of an Academy of American Poets University & College Prize, their work has appeared in The Broken Plate, Stone of Madness, and the anthology Broken Olive Branches. They hold an MFA from North Carolina State University. Read their poem "Elegy." 
    Deon Robinson (he/him) is a Queer Afro-Latino poet born-and-raised in The Bronx. He received his B.A. in Creative Writing from Susquehanna University, where he was a two-time recipient of the Janet C. Weis Prize for Literary Excellence. Currently, he is a first year MFA Candidate in Poetry at the University of Urbana-Champaign where he is a recipient of a Graduate College Master's Fellowship and selected by Adrian Matejka for the 2022 Hobart L. and Mary Kay Peer Memorial Award. Read Deon Robinson's "(Pleasure-Knowledge) (Knowledge-Pain)" from The Adroit Journal. Visit his website: https://djrthepoet.weebly.com 
    Kaitlin Hsu 徐欣 (she/她) is a queer Taiwanese poet, translator and editor from the Bay Area. Her work can be found in A Public Space, Poet Lore, Peach Mag and elsewhere. She is a 2024 Margins Fellow at the Asian American Writers’ Workshop and works at Kaya Press as an associate editor. Hsu was also a Brooklyn Poets Fellow. Check out Hsu's website at https://myrefoli.github.io and read her poem "As a Child, I Pretended to Be a Tree" here.
    Stefania Gomez is a 2025 Luminarts Fellow in Poetry and a 2023 Fulbright Research Award Grantee, and a finalist for the 2024 Ruth Lilly and Dorothy Sargent Rosenberg Poetry Fellowship and 2023-2024 Provincetown Fine Arts Work Center Fellowship Semifinalist. She has received additional fellowships from the Dirt Palace, Sewanee Writers Workshop, Lambda Literary, and the International Quilt Museum. She received her MFA in poetry at Washington University in St. Louis. She is currently a PhD candidate in English at the University of Illinois at Chicago and teaches Creative Writing at The Chicago High School for the Arts, Chicago’s first public arts high school. Read her poem "Wreck" here and check out her website here. 
    Another Gomez poem worth your time is "At the New York City AIDS Memorial"
    John Bonanni founded and edits the Cape Cod Review. His poems have appeared in North American Review, Foglifter, Black Warrior Review, Washington Square Review, Florida Review, and Gulf Coast, and his literary criticism has been featured in DIAGRAM, Denver Quarterly, The Rumpus, and The Kenyon Review. He teaches on Cape Cod. Visit his website and read "Elegy for Gaeton Dugas" here. Bonnani's book Retrovirology, won the Donald Hall Prize (judged by Honorée Fanonne Jeffers) and will be available in September from the Pitt Poetry Series. 
    Alec Hershman is the author of the chapbooks Permanent and Wonderful Storage  (2019) and The Egg Goes Under (2017), both from Seven Kitchens Press. He lives in Michigan where he teaches literature and writing to college students. His poetry appears widely in literary journals and magazines such as Denver Quarterly, Colorado Review, The Journal, Sycamore Review, DIAGRAM, Columbia, The National Poetry Review, and Harpur Palate. You can find links to his work online at https://alechershmanpoetry.com. Read Hershman's "Mercury Fields." 
    Denice Frohman is a poet and performer from New York City. She has received support from The Pew Center for the Arts, Baldwin for the Arts, CantoMundo, Headlands Center for the Arts, the National Association of Latino Arts and Cultures and the National Endowment for the Arts. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, Poem-A-Day, The BreakBeat Poets: LatiNext, Nepantla: An Anthology for Queer Poets of Color, The Rumpus and elsewhere. A former Women of the World Poetry Slam Champion, she’s featured on hundreds of stages from The Apollo to The White House. Currently, she is developing her one-woman show, Esto No Tiene Nombre, which centers the oral histories of Latina lesbian elders. Read or listen to Frohman's poem "Lady Jordan" here and check her website out here: https://www.denicefrohman.com
    Zachary Scalzo (he/they) is a queer writer, translator, and theatremaker. They can be found at azachofalltrades.com and on Instagram at @zjscalzo. Their poetry has appeared in journals including Dear Poetry, Ghost City Review, and &Change. Read their poem “Sometimes—there’s God—so quickly.” 
    Journalist Randy Shilts popularized the concept of "Patient Zero" in his 1987 book, And the Band Played On. By 1987, however, it was known that an infected individual might not display symptoms for several years, and that the study on which Shilts based his assumption was unlikely to have revealed a network of infection. Still, Shilts uncritically spread the story of the Los Angeles cluster study and its ‘Patient 0,’ with long-standing consequences. For more about this, read here.
    Director Laurie Lynd released a documentary in 2019, Killing Patient Zero, which delves more into Gaeton Dugas's life. Read more about the documentary here.
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    Queer Passages

    01/06/2026 | 37 mins.
    Travel through time with the Breaking Form ladies as we revisit some queer times and places.
    Support Breaking Form by reviewing the show on Apple Podcasts here.
    Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series. BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE is available from Bridwell Press. James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books. 

     Notes:

    Check out Felice Picano's website https://www.felicepicano.net/, and this tribute to the writer, who died in 2025 at the age of 81. 
    For more about how Saint Sebastian became a queer icon, read here. 
    Leslie Feinberg's Stone Butch Blues is available in many formats on Feinberg's website: https://www.lesliefeinberg.net/
    In addition to publishing poetry and prose, Darrell g.h. Schramm writes for national and international rose publications, especially on heritage roses. He edits Rose Letter, a small quarterly of the Heritage Roses Group, and a newsletter The Vintage Rose for The Friends of Vintage Roses. For many years, he taught rhetoric at the University of San Francisco.
    Member of the Family: Gay Men Write About Their Families was edited by John Preston and published by Plume in 1994.
    Check out "The Truth That Must Be Told: Gay Subjectivity, Homophobia, and Social History in "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof'" by Dean Shackleford in The Tennessee Williams  Annual Review (available through jstor). 
    Read more of Richard McCann's poem "Days of 1990" from Ghost Letters (buy it from Alice James Books here).
    The book David Wojnarowicz: A Definitive History of Five or Six Years on the Lower East Side was edited by by Sylvère Lotringer, Giancarlo Ambrosino, Chris Kraus, Hedi El Kholti, Justin Cavin, and Jennifer Doyle, and it was published by Semiotext(e). The book resulted from Wojnarowicz's meetings with Lotringer; they'd arranged to meet In February 1991 to conduct a long-awaited dialogue on Wojnarowicz’s work. Wojnarowicz was then at the peak of his notoriety as the fiercest antagonist of morals crusader Senator Jesse Helms–a notoriety that Wojnarowicz alternately embraced and rejected. Already suffering the last stages of AIDS, David saw his dialogue with Lotringer as a chance to set the record straight on his aspirations, his personal history, and his political views. 
    Check out this video of Wojnarowicz reading "All I Can Feel Is the Pressure"
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    The Lowells

    25/05/2026 | 24 mins.
    The queens visit The Lowells in a game of "Amy Robert Lowell"

    Support Breaking Form by reviewing the show on Apple Podcasts here.
    Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series. BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE is available from Bridwell Press. James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books. 

     Notes:
    Watch a brief biographical video about Amy Lowell here. 

    Poems we mention include these by Amy Lowell:
    "Sword Blades and Poppy Seed"
    "Opal"
    "The Letter"
    "A Winter Ride" (which includes the line "Everything mortal has moments immortal"; the poem appeared in her first book, A Dome of Many-Coloured Glass [Houghton Mifflin, 1912]).
    "A Decade"
    "September, 1918" (which we discuss at length)
    And these by Robert Lowell:
    "Night Sweat"
    "Home After Three Months Away"
    "The Quaker Graveyard in Nantucket" which includes the line "The Lord survives the rainbow of his will."
    "Reading Myself"

    Watch a longer documentary about Robert Lowell here (~60 min).
    Here's the music video for Chappell Roan's "Casual"
    Here's an article about Amy and Robert Lowell that's worth reading. 
    Here's a link to "Amy Lowell: Selected Poems" edited by Honor Moore; watch Moore discuss Lowell here (~60 min).
    Watch Naomi Shihab Nye read Amy Lowell's "The Garden by Moonlight."
    Watch Kids Magazine TV 

    A bit about hyphenated use of words like "to-day" vs "today." In Old and in Middle English, the practice was to join the time with the preposition, using a hyphen "to-day," and "to-morrow," and "to-night," for instance. As the sense of their use as single notions developed, the two elements were brought together in written language (i.e., to night, to-night, and tonight). Nineteenth-century dictionaries opted for the hyphen in all three words. The OED shows hyphenated examples throughout the 19th century and into the early 20th. Latest examples are of to-day (1912), to-night (1908), and to-morrow (1927, with a possible further example as late as 1959). (Adapted from this article).
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    I Was Bonnie and Clyde (with Special Guest Laura Kasischke)

    18/05/2026 | 42 mins.
    Laura Kasischke joins the queens to talk about her new collection of poems (and her new novel)!

    Support Breaking Form by reviewing the show on Apple Podcasts here.
    Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series. BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE is available from Bridwell Press. James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books. 

     Notes:
    "The Crying Towel" was first published in The Massachusetts Review Volume 57, Issue 4
    Read a short essay  Kasischke wrote about the beginning of her poem "The First Resurrection" 
    Uma Thurman starred in The Life Before Her Eyes (2007), adapted from Kasischke's novel of the same name. Evan Rachel Wood plays the younger version of the Uma Thurman character. Her other novels adapted for film include White Bird in a Blizzard (2014), directed by Gregg Araki and starring Shailene Woodley and Suspicious River (2000), directed by Lynne Stopkewich and starring Molly Parker. Kasischke also co-wrote the screenplay for this dark thriller.
    Laura Kasischke's novel The Lifeguard is available from Red Hen Press here, Read an interview about the novel here. 
    Alberto Giacometti "Woman with Her Throat Cut (Femme égorgée)" serves as the ekphrastic inspiration for Kasischke's poem of the same name. View the artwork here. Giacometti completed the sculpture in 1932 and used bronze cast. Dimensions are 22.00 x 87.50 x 53.50 cm (or roughly 8.5 x 34.5 x 21 inches). Lucy Flint writes that the human figure is treated brutally in Giacometti's piece, and the woman appears in insectlike form. Woman with Her Throat Cut "is a particularly vicious image: the body is splayed open, disemboweled, arched in a paroxysm of sex and death. The psychological torment and the sadistic misogyny projected by this sculpture are in startling contrast to the serenity of other contemporaneous pieces by Giacometti, such as Woman Walking." (article on the Guggenheim site).
    Watch Kasischke give a reading here, here, and here.
  • Breaking Form: a Poetry and Culture Podcast

    Mothered into Art

    11/05/2026 | 40 mins.
    The queens take on two impossible topics: death, and mothers.

    Support Breaking Form by reviewing the show on Apple Podcasts here.
    Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series. BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE is available from Bridwell Press. James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books. 

    Show Notes:
    Aaron mentions the Marie Howe poem "Letter to My Sister" from The Good Thief, which Howe talks about here. 
    Aaron reads his poem "After My Mother Apologized for My Childhood, We Went to Brunch," which you can hear him read again here -- on his cd Outside the Lines. 
    You can read James's poem "Family Portrait" here.
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About Breaking Form: a Poetry and Culture Podcast
James Allen Hall and Aaron Smith talk about their favorite poems and poets, interview amazing writers, laugh a lot, gossip, and get real about life and art.
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