In this special episode, Jenny Rudolph and James Lipshaw, producer of Curious Now, debrief our performance so far with the podcast, what we had in our original vision that we haven’t achieved yet, and where we’d like to go next. How can we rachet up the interactivity of the podcast, how do we make the experience of trying to do this work right more relatable and less of a lecture, and how do we tune the difficulty of the workouts to the experience levels of our guests better?
Do you have feedback for Jenny on the first three chapters of Curious Now? Now is a great time to comment—let us know below this post what you’d like to see in the future, and how the workouts are going for you!
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/72gzzWGegiXd9i2G6UJ0kP
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-center-for-medical-simulation/id1279266822
Curious Now on Video: https://youtube.com/medicalsimulation
Leadership Coaching from Jenny Rudolph: https://harvardmedsim.org/personal-leadership-coaching-with-jenny-rudolph/
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Amy Edmondson: Creating Psychological Safety | Curious Now #16 Special Event
We have an incredibly special guest this week on Curious Now! Amy Edmondson, Professor at Harvard Business School, and author of numerous books including Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well, Teaming: How Organizations Learn, Innovate, and Compete in the Knowledge Economy and The Fearless Organization: Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace for Learning, Innovation, and Growth joins us to discuss her concept of psychological safety, how a failed study led to its invention, and how leaders can create organizations that learn.
An initial study with a well-validated tool found a correlation between having better teams and having HIGHER error rates. Reluctant to bring this result to her thesis advisor, she came to an idea: Maybe better teams don’t make more mistakes, but rather better teams are more willing to talk about mistakes.
Bringing psychological safety to the present day, Amy and Jenny discuss how the best examples of crisis leadership involve what Amy calls “situational humility,” the ability to say, “we’ve never been here before,” and then framing the problem as an opportunity to find solutions and seeking and inviting input, along with a continual refreshment of common purpose.
How can individuals create a “learning frame” to grow in a crisis rather than an “execution frame” where you’re just getting work done; being open to hearing feedback both from your colleagues and your work itself as you do it.
While “learning work” can seem in the short term to take more energy or more bandwidth, in the broader view it creates vastly easier work through an increase in skill and understanding. Dr. Edmondson says, “If you’re not an organization that has found ways to hardwire learning and feedback loops into everything that it does, you will get caught unawares in a fast-changing, complex world.”
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/72gzzWGegiXd9i2G6UJ0kP
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-center-for-medical-simulation/id1279266822
Leadership Coaching from Jenny Rudolph: https://harvardmedsim.org/personal-leadership-coaching-with-jenny-rudolph/
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Curious Now Listeners #15: "There's a little sigh of relief."
This week Laura Rock and Janice Palaganas return to crack the code of team culture, map the blueprint underneath what we’re thinking. In the final episode of this chapter, we ask our guests what they’ve discovered about themselves with a Frames, Actions, Results test.
Janice has a glitch with a student where their understandings didn’t match, and Laura shares how being honest about her own critical care strengths and weaknesses with a group of trainees helped them focus on learning the most from her and other members of the team.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/72gzzWGegiXd9i2G6UJ0kP
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-center-for-medical-simulation/id1279266822
Leadership Coaching from Jenny Rudolph: https://harvardmedsim.org/personal-leadership-coaching-with-jenny-rudolph/
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Curious Now #15: Scaling Good Judgment to Your Team
This week on Curious Now we’re introducing a tool to help us bring the approach of understanding why people did what they did and helping them change the underlying analysis that got them into trouble, called the FAR or Frames, Actions, Results tool.
Where has your team gotten stuck or glitchy, and what were the underlying frames that got your team intro trouble or got the job done great?
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/72gzzWGegiXd9i2G6UJ0kP
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-center-for-medical-simulation/id1279266822
Leadership Coaching from Jenny Rudolph: https://harvardmedsim.org/personal-leadership-coaching-with-jenny-rudolph/
More on the LPG: https://www.aliem.com/improving-debriefing-skills-pathways-grid/
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DTBR #1: Ready to Help "Safe" Patients with Diabetes in the ER
Dare to Be Ready with Dr. Chris Roussin, founder of CMS-ALPS, the Center for Medical Simulation’s team and organization readiness consulting service. In this podcast, available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and in video form on Youtube, Chris will meet with a series of guests with specific readiness challenges in their healthcare teams. Each week we will approach the challenge of how to get teams ready for the difficult work they face every day, and work through how we can get our people and teams ready to face that challenge. Join us monthly and Dare to Be Ready!
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Episode 1: Ready to Help “Safe” Patients with Diabetes in the ER
Dr. Marie McDonnell is an Endocrinologist and Director of Diabetes at the Brigham and Women’s Hospital, joins us to discuss her team’s readiness challenges around training with the Emergency Room to connect triaged emergency care with diabetes specialty care.
Readiness Challenges: The care teams in the Emergency Room are ready and skilled in treating patients with diabetes who come in very sick and need to be admitted to the hospital. However, the Emergency Room also experiences a very high volume of diabetes recidivism, patients with diabetes who are stabilized and able to be discharged but then return later with the same issue presenting again. This is compounded by the fact that 50% of diabetes patients in the ER arrive between 5 PM and 9 AM because they could not contact their normal endocrinology care teams.
Today we work on a readiness plan to help ER teams better connect into the big system of diabetes care within the hospital so that patients who are “safe” get connected with specialists who can solve the underlying diabetes self-care issues that brought them to the ER, so that they don’t end up back in the ER later that day.
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Host & Co-Producer: Chris Roussin, PhD, Senior Director, CMS-ALPS (https://harvardmedsim.org/chris-roussin/)
Producer: James Lipshaw, MFA, EdM, Assistant Director, Media (https://harvardmedsim.org/james-lipshaw/)
Consulting and readiness with CMS-ALPS: https://harvardmedsim.org/alps-applied-learning-for-performance-and-safety
Dare to Be Ready on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/72gzzWGegiXd9i2G6UJ0kP
Dare to Be Ready on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-center-for-medical-simulation/id1279266822
A nurse preceptor has just watched a trainee commit a serious error despite hours of lecture, reading, and hands on training. In spite of herself, she starts to heat up, much like the more severe clinical educators who trained her years ago. “Why can’t you just get this right?”
An ICU attending asks her resident to call her if a patient’s hematocrit drops under a certain value. Despite this agreement, and despite the patient deteriorating, the resident never calls. “Are you an idiot? Why didn’t you call me?”
In these moments, how do we reset ourself to a place of care, curiosity, and compassion? How do we model a better culture of learning? How do we have our judgment, instead of our judgment having us?
In “Curious Now with Jenny Rudolph,” a social scientist takes on the hidden structures that shape our behavior, culture, communication, and learning in healthcare.
In this interactive podcast, Jenny Rudolph, PhD, FSSH, will help listeners approach the thoughts, feelings, and judgments underlying their reactions in a psychologically safer manner, helping us to better connect with curiosity and compassion to the people around us, especially when we feel that they’ve done something “wrong.” This podcast will include weekly challenges to examine your own thinking, including follow-up with listeners and experts about their experience on the journey to Good Judgment.
Jenny Rudolph has made a career exploring what makes clinicians, healthcare organizations, and health professions training programs tick. Underneath the surface of intelligent, capable people who care about doing their best are hidden patterns that interfere with how they perform. Hierarchy, ego, communication glitches, resilience, power, professional learning, and how learning happens all flow downstream into creating actions that work and actions that don’t.
Jenny found out the hard way that being too certain can get you in trouble. Demoted from third to second grade for poor academic performance when she arrived in Jaipur, India as an eight-year-old, she realized she had better get curious about how her new school and culture ran, and that curiosity has remained with her ever since.
Jenny now works with clinicians around the world to help them develop their own love of that little dopamine drip of rewarding surprise when you find out something new about your colleagues and how they think. Whether trying to figure out a diagnosis, discovering what a learner is thinking, or upping your own clinical mastery, getting Curious Now is the solution.
Curious Now on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/72gzzWGegiXd9i2G6UJ0kP?si=890ed4b02bfe4838
Curious Now on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-center-for-medical-simulation/id1279266822
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Founded in 1993, the Center for Medical Simulation was one of the world's first healthcare simulation centers and continues to be a global leader in the field. Simulation training at CMS gives healthcare providers a new and enlightening perspective on how to handle real medical situations. Through high-fidelity scenarios that simulate genuine crisis management situations, the CMS experience can open new chapters in the level of healthcare quality that participants provide. Find out more and apply for CMS simulation workshops at www.harvardmedsim.org.
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