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For Heaven's Sake

Shalom Hartman Institute, Ark Media
For Heaven's Sake
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  • For Heaven's Sake

    The Battle Over the Word Zionism

    07/04/2026 | 52 mins.
    When a word carries history, burden, and identity all at once, can the Jewish people afford to let it go? 

    In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi dissect the internal Jewish debate over the term Zionism, examining its classical promises of empowerment, the push to abandon it in the face of progressive critique, and why the term means something different in Israel and the Diaspora. Ultimately, they ask what it would take for Zionism to become not only defensible but inspiring again for world Jewry. 

    Read Nadine Epstein's article cited in the show, “The Word Zionism Is Dead” here. 

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    Passover Under the Shadow of War: The Challenge of Hope

    01/04/2026 | 51 mins.
    How do you celebrate the holiday of liberation when the reality of war, grief, and political division feels heavier than ever? 

    In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi confront the growing exhaustion in Israel with the conflicts in Iran and Lebanon, the profound grief interrupting daily life, and the internal fractures exposed by new government legislation. As they navigate these challenges, they reflect on what liberation means today, and grapple with the moral and spiritual questions of how to hold onto hope when the Jewish state is tested from both within and without.  

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    The War in Iran: The End?

    25/03/2026 | 43 mins.
    Is Israel destined to have its wars stopped by its closest ally just before the finish line? 

    In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi examine the rumors of a potential negotiation to end the current conflict with Iran and ask whether this moment reflects a recurring pattern in the U.S.-Israel relationship. They explore America’s role in pressing for de-escalation at pivotal moments in Israeli military campaigns and what that pressure means for Israel’s long-term security. 

    Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel.  

    Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. 

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    Watch Masua Sagiv on Get Your Phil exploring the bonds between Israel and American Jewry.
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    The Impact of the Iran War on Israel and the Jewish People

    18/03/2026 | 47 mins.
    What is the hidden cost of Israeli resilience? 

    In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi move beyond strategic analysis to examine how the war is reshaping daily life in Israel, why the polls haven't budged despite a popular and militarily successful war, and what the Lebanon ground operation reveals about Israel's most stubborn patterns. They also confront the growing divide in American Jewry over Israel's place in Jewish identity — a rift that goes far deeper than policy disagreement. 

    You can watch the remarks by Israel's Consul General to the Midwest Elad Stromhayer to Temple Israel in West Bloomfield, Michigan here.

    Watch the video version of our podcast on our Youtube channel.  

    Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. 

    For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. 

    Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. 

    Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: 

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    Israel: Winning the Iran War, Losing the American Jews?

    12/03/2026 | 52 mins.
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    If this war with Iran is self-evident to Israelis, why does it feel so different to North American Jews? 

    Starting with that blunt question, in this special live episode of For Heaven’s Sake, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi assess endgames, regime change, public legitimacy, and the possibility that military success could come with growing political isolation -- the deep fear that Israel could win this war with Iran and still lose something essential in its relationship with North American Jewry.

    Watch the video version of our podcast on our Youtube channel.  

    Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. 

    For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. 

    Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. 

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About For Heaven's Sake

For Heaven’s Sake is a weekly podcast presented by Ark Media and the Shalom Hartman Institute, hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi. The podcast draws its name from the Jewish concept of machloket l’shem shemayim, “disagreeing for the sake of heaven,” which is exactly what takes place each week as Donniel and Yossi discuss the moral aspects of topics affecting Israel, world Jewry, and the future of Zionism.
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