HardLore

Split your lungs with blood and thunder…

We’re joined by MASTODON co-founder and guitarist Bill Kelliher on the eve of their newest album Marrow Deep.

We dive deep into the origin of the band, the recent loss of Brent Hinds after his dismissal from the band, Bill discovering extreme music in Rochester, NY and linking up with Brann first in Lethargy & Today is the Day, Mastodon’s humble but competent beginnings, and we break down the entire Mastodon discography and accompanying tours and tales in between.

Featuring special guest co-host, engineer & producer Taylor Young of God’s Hate, Twitching Tongues and more.
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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.
Shot, edited and mixed by ⁠⁠Steven Grise⁠⁠
Title sequence by ⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠
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00:00:00 - Start
00:01:42 - Bill Kelliher
00:02:19 - Bill Reflects on the Loss of Brent Hinds
00:07:07 - Healing And What Comes Next
00:08:02 - "Your Ghost Again" / Marrow Deep Production
00:14:56 - Snakes For Dinner
00:21:52 - Finding Extreme Music
00:31:12 - Favorite Fret
00:31:38 - Meeting Brann & Joining Lethargy
00:39:04 - The Origin of Mastodon
00:43:33 - MASTODON DEMO, Evolution of Live Production
00:49:22 - Pardon This Interruption
00:51:46 - Touring On The Demo
00:56:11 - REMISSION
01:00:34 - Ideal Music Production (Turnstile Glow On)
01:05:14 - LEVIATHAN: Why Moby Dick?
01:08:15 - Exercising Restraint In Songwriting
01:11:47 - Touring on Leviathan
01:14:32 - Features With Scott Kelly
01:17:23 - BLOOD MOUNTAIN
01:24:31 - CRACK THE SKYE
01:33:23 - Death Magnetic Tour
01:35:49 - THE HUNTER
01:42:31 - ONCE MORE ‘ROUND THE SUN
01:45:24 - Building A Set List
01:50:46 - Game Of Thrones
01:52:45 - EMPEROR OF SAND
01:56:53 - “Clandestiny”
02:01:13 - Remembering Nick John / HUSHED & GRIM
02:08:41 - Leading up to Brent's Exit From Mastodon
02:14:51 - Performing With Ozzy One Last Time
02:18:21 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

For the very first time on HardLore, the interviewer becomes the interviewee…
Myself, Brody King and Taylor Young of GOD’S HATE sit down with Anna Zanes, who up until just days ago was the editor in chief of Alternative Press, to deep dive into the development and intention of our brand new 12” EP, WON’T BE DISGRACED.

In our own words… Won’t Be Disgraced is a dense, urgent collection of 3 songs driven by grief and the state of the greater hardcore community and beyond.
Your mind can be your most powerful tool or a weapon used against you in your darkest moments, and the only guaranteed way to fail yourself and your loved ones is to quit.

As the world continues to be destroyed from within by greed, religious extremism, and 24 hour news cycles of division and violations of human rights… It has never been more apparent that all we have is each other. Use your hate to make a change. Don’t be disgraced.

Dedicated to Bohan Daniel Lueders.

You can stream all three songs and pre-order the record now: https://www.godshate.us

You can support a few of the other journalists who were recently laid off below: 
• https://andrewsacher.substack.com/
• https://soundbitesnyc.substack.com/
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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.
Shot, edited and mixed by ⁠Steven Grise⁠
Title sequence by ⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠
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00:00:00 - Start
00:01:25 - Introducing Anna Zanes
00:04:13 - Picking Up Where God's Hate Left Off
00:10:07 - The San Fernando Valley
00:12:36 - Colin Meeting Brody, Starting God's Hate
00:17:33 - Everything Comes From Somewhere/God's Hate Lineups Through the Years
00:22:24 - God's Hate Lyrics, Having Faith in Your Writing
00:28:15 - WON'T BE DISGRACED
01:04:24 - Pardon This Interruption....
01:07:46 - What "Job" Must Be Finished?
01:16:25 - Creating Hateful Music "Out of Love"
01:23:44 - Does Art Require Pain?
01:33:30 - What's Next For God's Hate?
01:37:07 - Deciding On The 3 New Songs & Finishing This Record
01:45:10 - Favorite Extreme Musical Songwriters
01:47:10 - Shutting Out Music When Writing
01:51:10 - What is "Being Harder?

Our 4th annual Sound & Fury week event: LIVE from the SOLD OUT Brain Dead Studios in Hollywood, California.

We're once again proud to present HardLore Jeopardy, featuring Davey Havok of AFI, Todd Jones of NAILS/Carry On and our reigning champion Martín Stewart from Terror/God's Hate/Sound & Fury head to head to head in CLASSIC Jeopardy fashion, with a hardcore/metal/punk twist...

HardLore Jeopardy theme by Jordan Olds (Blood Vulture) and Ben Hutcherson (Khemmis)
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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Shot, Mixed & Edited by ⁠⁠Steven Grise⁠⁠
Title sequence by ⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠

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00:00:00 - Start
00:01:21 - Meet the Contestants
00:04:18 - HardLore Jeopardy Round 1
00:33:24 - Double Jeopardy
00:39:35 - Pardon This Interruption
00:41:58 - Double Jeopardy Continued
01:09:11 - Final Jeopardy

HardLore is joined by Ryan George & Todd Jones of CARRY ON for a thorough deep dive into the complete history of the band, following their long awaited return this past June at Tied Down fest, and on the eve of their hometown return at Sound & Fury festival.

From beginning as a metallic band called Persevere in Atascadero, California, to changing their name (and their many lineups), recruiting Todd, Corey Williams and Nick Jett in the band, finding their musical identity on their Roll With The Punches 7", refining it on their one and only album A Life Less Plagued, and Ryan infamously deciding to stop being straight edge, quickly ending the band...

This is a fascinating window into a band Bo and I grew up listening to and loving for 20+ years, and it was honor to be in the room as these two shared so much about such a beloved band. X's always win.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Shot, Mixed & Edited by ⁠Steven Grise⁠
Title sequence by ⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠

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00:00:00 - Start
00:01:13 - Hello Welcome
00:02:18 - Ryan Finding Hardcore & Meeting Todd
00:07:19 - Becoming Straight Edge / Strife's Influence in the 90s
00:12:37 - Persevere / Ryan's First Band
00:16:14 - CARRY ON
00:23:44 - Revisiting Carry On Lyrics / The Line Is Drawn 7"
00:31:07 - Pickle Patch
00:32:04 - Roll With The Punches / Todd Joining Carry On
00:40:57 - Off My Chest
00:46:14 - Pardon This Interruption...
00:48:15 - American Nightmare & Signing to Bridge Nine
00:52:25 - A Life Less Plagued
01:16:27 - Ryan Questioning Hardcore & Straight Edge
01:19:37 - Breaking Edge
01:22:56 - Terror
01:24:02 - Reconciling Post Edge Break
01:26:42 - Ending Carry On
01:28:58 - New Carry On Material?
01:31:40 - Carry On Ends, Terror Begins
01:33:35 - Hearing The Terror Demo
01:34:19 - Last Shows At Showcase Theater
01:41:30 - Youth Code
01:44:24 - The Carry On Coke Lines Shirt
01:46:22 - Carry On From 2005 - 2025
01:52:48 - Expectations Going Into the Upcoming Sets
01:54:53 - Tied Down, Returning to the Stage
01:58:28 - Theoretically Giving Up On Music
02:01:18 - Youth Code And Getting Into Industrial Music
02:09:55 - Veganism
02:13:29 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

In our first special Q&A episode since the passing of our late Bo Lueders, we’re joined by Britty Drake (Pity Sex) & Mike Cesario (Twitching Tongues, Disgrace, Forced Order) to help bring a fresh perspective to recent questions asked by our Patreon and Discord members.

Naturally, the majority of the conversation revolves around Bo, grief, and everything in between from these past few months. Thanks to all of you for the questions, Mike & Britty for joining us, and the rest of you for being here and for watching.

Intro to Sick of It All Playlist:
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6SYnjnzXC7uqWxfOKiTPgL?si=59a0a1e398c847ea
Apple Music - https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/intro-to-sick-of-it-all/pl.u-3G3bcPVy8XV

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Shot, Mixed & Edited by ⁠⁠⁠Steven Grise⁠⁠⁠
Title sequence by ⁠⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠⁠

• Join the ⁠⁠⁠HARDLORE PATREON⁠⁠⁠ to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episode.
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00:00:00 - Start / Lou Koller
00:03:24 - Hello Welcome
00:06:45 - Favorite lie you've ever told
00:11:38 - Songs we'd like to perform with an orchestra
00:12:56 - Holy Grail T-Shirt
00:19:09 - Little Moments That Get Us Through The Day
00:25:18 - Top 5 Death Metal Tracks Of All Time
00:28:53 - Booking process For HardLore
00:30:54 - Best Live Sets in 2026
00:33:11 - Ruckus LP Has NO SKIPS?
00:35:48 - Amp Modelers
00:39:13 - Favorite Restaurant in LA
00:41:34 - Favorite Mosh Part In A Non-Hardcore Song
00:45:03 - Pardon This Interruption...
00:47:10 - Favorite Albums This Year So Far
00:49:04 - Favorite Elvis Song
00:50:52 - Tips For Writing Lyrics
01:00:32 - Master Killer Tier Album Thats Recently Been Released
01:03:31 - What's Bo Up To?
01:06:31 - Favorite Girly Pop
01:09:17 - Are We Going To Be Okay?
01:18:25 - Top 4 Hardcore EP's
01:22:41 - Favorite MIsheard Lyric
01:23:52 - Most Time Consuming Instrument When Recording
01:26:10 - Top 4 Punk Records
01:30:06 - Why Bo As Co-Host
01:32:57 - Pop Punk
01:36:45 - Best Airline For Musicians
01:41:02 - A Burning Question For A Guest
01:47:13 - What Have You Learned About Yourself This Year
01:53:08 - Tips For Coping With Loss
01:58:10 - Mini Clone Of Hitler
02:00:34 - Who Feels Like A Rockstar To You
02:07:59 - Favorite Smell
02:10:32 - Favorite Drummer Ever
02:14:11 - Black And Gold Color Scheme
02:14:36 - Least Chance Of Explosive Sh*ts
02:15:51 - Pivotal Point
02:28:25 - Music Project With Bo
02:29:14 - Hardest Laugh While Touring
02:34:32 - Top 5 Sauced Out Tracks
02:38:49 - Mike's Question
02:41:56 - Frontman With Best Skank On Stage
02:43:15 - Britty's Idea