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Patrick Clancy and his new wife Rachel sat down with 60 Minutes for one of the most anticipated interviews since the Lindsay Clancy trial — but did it answer the questions people have been asking?
Billy breaks down the interview, including Patrick’s emotional account of losing Cora, Dawson and Callan, why he says he forgave Lindsay, the panic attack he suffered during the trial, his decision to rebuild his life in New York, and his relationship with Rachel. Billy also examines what 60 Minutes left out — including questions surrounding Patrick and Rachel’s relationship, his current relationship with Lindsay, and other issues that have fueled intense discussion online.
Then Stan Walters, an expert in investigative interviewing and creator of the Cognitive Reliability Framework, joins Billy to analyze Patrick’s interview, his demeanor and the reliability of the statements he made to 60 Minutes.
PLUS: AMY GRIFFIN AND THE TELL
Amy Griffin is speaking out in a major new New York Magazine story asking the question at the center of the controversy surrounding her bestselling memoir: “Was Amy Griffin Telling the Truth?”
Billy goes deep on the new reporting and what Griffin now says about the memories behind The Tell. That includes her description of what she remembered before undergoing MDMA-assisted therapy, how she says MDMA helped connect those memories to the teacher she accuses of abusing her, and how those statements compare with the account presented in her memoir.
There are also new details involving the woman Griffin identifies as the “real Claudia,” Griffin’s former volleyball coach, another former classmate identified as “Allie,” and the continuing dispute with Joleene Altum, who has alleged that portions of Griffin’s memoir describe events that happened to her.
Billy examines what the New York Magazine story reports, what it leaves unanswered, and the declarations Altum says support her account.
With litigation still unfolding and discovery in its early stages, the fight over The Tell is far from over. The allegations and competing accounts discussed in this episode remain disputed.
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Major developments in the Lindsay Clancy case, the Caleb Flynn murder trial gets underway, and Amy Griffin prepares to break her silence as new questions surround The Tell. Billy Bush breaks down the latest in the Lindsay Clancy case, including the addition of prominent attorney Martin Weinberg to the defense team as Kevin Reddington fights to prevent a second trial. Plus, a judge has ordered the identities of the jurors and alternates kept private indefinitely following concerns about potential harm, while questions continue over who first identified the alleged holdout juror. And Patrick Clancy is preparing to speak publicly on 60 Minutes about Cora, Dawson and Callan and the conspiracy theories that have targeted him since the case exploded nationally. Meanwhile, prosecutors still haven't publicly announced whether they intend to retry Lindsay Clancy, with a major hearing approaching on September 29. Then, former prosecutor Matt Murphy joins Billy as jury selection begins in the murder trial of Caleb Flynn, the former American Idol contestant and youth music pastor accused in the death of his wife, Ashley. They examine Flynn's 911 call, body-camera footage, the prosecution's witness-intimidation allegations involving his daughters, and the digital evidence that could become critical at trial. Flynn is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. Plus, a major development in the controversy surrounding **Amy Griffin's bestselling memoir The Tell. With Griffin participating in a new article expected Monday, Billy examines the competing allegations at the center of the ongoing litigation: Jolene's claims that details of her childhood abuse were appropriated, the mysterious “Dominic Price,” the disputed identity of Claudia, the Palm Springs meeting Griffin denies ever happened, and the mysterious postcard that plays a pivotal role in Griffin's memoir. And Billy weighs in on Arch Manning's apology to ESPN's Holly Rowe after his comments about an AI-generated video sparked backlash—and why what Manning did *after* the mistake may matter more than the mistake itself.
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A tragic morning in Los Angeles after a news helicopter crashes in Chatsworth, killing three people. Billy remembers the crew and speaks with FOX 11’s Stu Mundel about the loss and the unique risks faced by the journalists who cover Los Angeles from the air.
Then, the investigation into Hayden Panettiere’s death continues. Hayden’s former next-door neighbor Mia Terrazas joins Billy with firsthand observations about people she says she saw coming and going from Hayden’s apartment — and explains why she’s frustrated that investigators have apparently not yet visited the building.
Plus, prosecutors will not seek the death penalty against Nick Reiner, and the fallout surrounding Ed Sheeran and Macklemore continues.
Then Billy goes deep on the case of Caleb Flynn, the former American Idol contestant and worship pastor accused of murdering his wife, Ashley. With Flynn’s trial beginning, Billy plays the 911 call from the night Ashley was killed and compares it with police body-camera footage. What does the prosecution say happened inside that Ohio home? Why was a garage door open despite a refrigerator blocking the entrance? What happened to the missing 9mm handgun? And what will Flynn’s young daughters tell the jury?
Caleb Flynn has pleaded not guilty.
Plus, a quick update on Amy Griffin and The Tell ahead of the anticipated New York Magazine story.
It’s all on today’s Hot Mics with Billy Bush.
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Billy kicks things off with the Emmys, breaking down the red carpet hits, misses and moments that got his attention. Then, Macklemore is facing major fallout after another “Free Palestine” statement, with multiple dates on Ed Sheeran’s stadium tour reportedly disappearing from his schedule. Billy weighs free speech against consequences — and asks why the conversation so often ignores Hamas. Meanwhile, Sydney Sweeney has figured out the controversy economy. Her provocative new sports-betting campaign has sparked another round of outrage from female athletes and critics — while generating tens of millions of views. Billy argues two things can be true: female athletes deserve respect for their accomplishments, and Sweeney can use sex appeal to build her brand and make money. There’s also a fascinating Hollywood twist involving legendary agent Ari Emanuel, who reportedly gave Sweeney some very personal career advice involving her boyfriend, **Scooter Braun**. Billy is joined by Raquel Debono, founder of “Make America Hot Again,” for a conversation about Sweeney, politics, attractiveness and why she thinks the cultural battle over beauty has gotten completely out of control. Plus, another Jolie-Pitt child drops Brad Pitt’s last name — and Billy returns to the growing debate over artificial intelligence. President Trump pushes back hard against Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei’s calls for AI guardrails, while Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang, Elon Musk and others weigh in on how quickly the technology should advance. And Billy closes with a chilling warning from Stephen Hawking — made all the way back in 2014 — about what could happen if artificial intelligence eventually surpasses human intelligence.** It’s politics, pop culture, Hollywood and AI — with room for more than one thing to be true. **Hot Mics with Billy Bush. Subscribe and join the conversation.** #BillyBush #HotMics #SydneySweeney #Macklemore #ArtificialIntelligence #AI #Emmys #ScooterBraun #AriEmanuel #EntertainmentNews
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The fallout from the Lindsay Clancy trial continues as the holdout juror is publicly identified — and Aidan Kearney, aka Turtleboy, joins Billy to defend his decision to amplify the juror’s identity. Billy presses him on the public-interest argument, the juror’s reported legal history, questions surrounding the jury questionnaire, and whether any of this could affect what happens next in the Clancy case.
Billy also sounds the alarm over a very different story: some of the biggest names in artificial intelligence are now openly warning about the dangers of moving too fast. With calls for government oversight growing, is Washington prepared to deal with an AI race that could have enormous consequences?
Then, a major update on Amy Griffin and The Tell. Billy shares portions of Griffin’s lengthy interview with an Amarillo police investigator and examines new questions surrounding her allegations, the investigative material behind them, the media’s silence, and a planned multi-part Air Mail investigation that was ultimately killed.
Plus: the latest on Hayden Panettiere and Brian Hickerson, the disturbing allegations involving KJ Biermann, Blake Lively’s microwave moment, Jennifer Lawrence’s Instagram debut, Britney Spears, and a wild Fashion Week confrontation with a PETA protester.
It’s a packed Monday edition of Hot Mics with Billy Bush.
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