Hot Mics with Billy Bush

The Lindsay Clancy jury is back for Day 6 of deliberations after telling the judge it could not reach a unanimous verdict — and now the pressure could hardly be higher.
Judge John Sullivan has delivered the powerful Tuey-Rodriguez instruction, commonly known as the “dynamite charge,” sending jurors back to reconsider their positions and make another attempt at reaching a unanimous decision.
Billy Bush breaks down the key language of the instruction and what it means as the jury continues deliberating in the case against Lindsay Clancy.
Meanwhile, outside the Plymouth County Courthouse, the Clancy trial has developed a world of its own.
“Court Dog Daniel” joins Billy live from his RV outside the courthouse, where he has spent weeks covering the trial and has developed an unlikely friendship with Lindsay Clancy defense attorney Kevin Reddington. Daniel takes Billy inside the daily scene surrounding the courthouse, his conversations with Reddington and how a true-crime fan with an RV suddenly found himself in the middle of one of the most closely watched trials in the country.
Then Reddington himself makes news.
Speaking with reporters outside court, Reddington says he is prepared to retry Lindsay Clancy immediately if the jury ultimately cannot reach a verdict. He unloads on the Commonwealth’s rebuttal experts, discusses Lindsay’s emotional state as she waits for the jury — and makes a striking comment about Lindsay having “false memories” that immediately catches Billy’s attention.
Was Reddington simply explaining why he would oppose another round of psychiatric examinations in a retrial — or was the veteran defense attorney deliberately signaling something about what could come next?
Billy breaks it down.
Hot Mics favorite Joy Schmehar also joins the show to discuss the extraordinary community that has formed around the Clancy trial, the mental health issues the case has brought to the forefront and the growing crowds gathering outside the courthouse as everyone waits for a verdict.
Plus, the fallout continues from the arrest of Dawn Light, the woman accused of filming jurors outside the courthouse — an incident serious enough that Judge Sullivan individually questioned members of the jury before allowing deliberations to continue.
Six days of deliberations. A jury that has already reported being unable to reach a unanimous decision. The dynamite charge has now been delivered.
Does this jury finally reach a verdict — or are we headed toward a mistrial?
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The Lindsay Clancy jury remains deadlocked on Day 5 of deliberations — and the tension outside the Plymouth courthouse is building.
NewsNation’s Brian Entin joins Billy Bush live from Massachusetts with the latest from verdict watch, including the bizarre arrest of a retired nurse accused of filming jurors, what happened when the judge questioned jurors individually, and what could happen next if the panel continues to say it cannot reach a unanimous decision.
Billy and Brian break down the possibility of a Tuey-Rodriguez instruction, the competing theories about what may be happening inside the jury room, and whether this case is moving closer to a verdict — or a mistrial.
Billy also examines the extraordinary public response to Lindsay Clancy attorney Kevin Reddington and why his relationship with his client has become such a powerful part of the story.
The conversation then expands beyond the courtroom to the mental health system itself. A Hot Mics viewer who experienced postpartum psychosis shares her perspective and an idea for creating an AA-style peer-support network for people struggling with severe depression and suicidal ideation. Billy also opens up about his own experience with depression, suicidal thoughts and the support that helped him through one of the darkest periods of his life.
Then, a major shift to another case dominating Netflix.
Regina Ward, Mica Miller’s divorce attorney and one of the standout voices in Death of the Pastor’s Wife, joins Billy to reveal what Mica was telling her as she prepared to leave Pastor J.P. Miller. Ward describes Mica’s state of mind in the weeks before her death, the material Mica had gathered for their upcoming court battle, why Ward personally continues to question the circumstances surrounding Mica’s death, and what she believes South Carolina law failed to provide her client.
Ward also discusses allegations of coercive control and stalking, the federal case against J.P. Miller, questions surrounding Mica’s mental health treatment, and her fight to strengthen South Carolina law through an effort she hopes will become known as “Mica’s Law.”
It’s a packed edition of Hot Mics with Billy Bush: Lindsay Clancy verdict watch, Brian Entin live from the courthouse, a deeply personal conversation about mental health, and new insight into the Mica Miller story from the attorney who was preparing to fight for her in court.
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What does J.P. Miller’s interview reveal when it’s analyzed by a man who trains law enforcement officers how to conduct evidence-based interviews?
Stan Walters — known as “The Lie Guy” — joins Billy Bush to break down NewsNation investigative journalist Rich McHugh’s extraordinary interview with J.P. Miller, the husband of Mica Miller and a central figure in Netflix’s Death of the Pastor’s Wife.
Walters approaches the interview differently. Rather than relying on body language or claiming he can simply “spot a lie,” he examines the reliability of what J.P. actually says: the details he provides, the details he doesn’t, how he describes his marriage to Mica, his repeated focus on himself, and whether his account could be reconstructed and tested against evidence.
Stan’s first major observation? Gaslighting.
“He is the greatest gaslighter I’ve ever seen,” Walters tells Billy.
Together, Billy and Stan examine J.P.’s claim that he and Mica had an almost “perfect” marriage, his description of Mica’s mental health, his response when asked what he would have done differently, and his striking announcement to his congregation following Mica’s death.
They also examine what Stan considers one of the most important parts of any investigative interview: the subject’s ability to recall and explain critical moments. Why does J.P. appear unable to provide certain details surrounding the moment he learned Mica was dead? What should investigators look for when evaluating statements like these? And how do investigators work backward from forensic evidence rather than allowing behavior or appearances to determine their conclusions?
Walters also explains why body language is an unreliable method of detecting deception — and why, as he puts it, “we can hear the truth better than we can see deception.”
Mica Miller’s death was officially ruled a suicide. J.P. Miller has not been charged in connection with her death. The allegations concerning abuse and coercive control discussed in this episode remain allegations, and Walters makes clear that his analysis is not a determination that J.P. committed a crime.
Watch as “The Lie Guy” puts one of the most talked-about interviews in the Mica Miller case under the microscope.
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Lindsay Clancy's attorney Kevin "Big Red" Reddington lashes out at irresponsible accusations from the media. As the Lindsay Clancy jury struggles to reach a verdict, Billy Bush is joined by Karen Goldberg, a courtroom observer who has traveled three hours each way to attend the trial — and whose deeply personal connection to mental illness and postpartum psychosis explains why this case means so much to her. Goldberg became recognizable to viewers as the woman seated behind Brittany Romano — the so-called “girl in the green dress” — and found herself facing online criticism after cameras captured a brief smile inside the courtroom. But there is much more to her story. Karen is a mother of eight with a family history deeply affected by mental illness. Her father experienced a psychotic break when she was young, and in 2005, one of Karen’s friends died by suicide just 13 days after giving birth following postpartum psychosis. That experience never left her. Karen explains why she originally planned to attend the Lindsay Clancy trial for only a day or two — and how an unexpected encounter with Lindsay’s parents changed her mind and convinced her to return to the courtroom throughout the trial. Billy and Karen discuss the intense reaction to spectators caught smiling on camera, what it is actually like inside the Plymouth County courtroom, and why brief moments captured by television cameras may not tell the full story about the people sitting in the gallery. Karen also shares her firsthand impressions of Kevin Reddington, the defense attorney who has become a larger-than-life figure during the trial, and explains what she has observed about his relationship with Lindsay Clancy and her supporters. Then Karen gives Billy her read on the jury. She describes the jurors’ reactions during testimony, moments that appeared to visibly affect them, and what she witnessed as the jury reported that it had been unable to reach a decision and was sent back to continue deliberating. With the possibility of a hung jury growing, the conversation returns to the question at the center of this case: How should the criminal justice system confront severe mental illness and postpartum psychosis while never losing sight of the three children whose deaths brought everyone into this courtroom? This is an eyewitness perspective from inside one of the most closely watched trials in the country — and the personal story behind one woman who felt she had to be there. Subscribe to Hot Mics with Billy Bush for continuing coverage of the Lindsay Clancy trial and the verdict. #LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #KevinReddington #KarenGoldberg #BillyBush #HotMics #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #CourtTV #MentalHealth Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@HotMicswithBillyBush?sub_confirmation=1 You can listen live exclusively on TuneIn Monday through Thursday 9am PT / 12pm ET. Ask your Alexa or Google device to "Play Hot Mics with Billy Bush on TuneIn" to listen.
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Netflix’s The Death of the Pastor’s Wife has put the Mica Miller case back in the national spotlight. Now investigative journalist Rich McHugh, one of the key journalists featured in the documentary, joins Billy Bush to reveal what he learned while investigating J.P. Miller — including what happened when he finally sat down with the controversial pastor face-to-face.
McHugh began investigating Mica’s death in 2024, speaking with her family while simultaneously communicating directly with J.P. Miller. After months of trying, McHugh eventually convinced Miller to sit for an extensive interview.
What followed was unlike anything McHugh says he had experienced in thousands of interviews.
Billy and Rich examine the allegations of coercive control, stalking, emotional and sexual abuse, religious manipulation and surveillance that surrounded Mica’s marriage and her attempts to leave it. They also discuss Mica’s mental-health treatment, her efforts to regain control of her life, and the videos she made documenting what she said she was experiencing.
Then there are the unanswered questions surrounding Mica’s death.
McHugh retraced Mica’s final movements to Lumber River State Park and explains why certain details still trouble him — including the location of Mica’s body in relation to her belongings and questions he believes deserved greater scrutiny.
Billy also plays portions of McHugh’s remarkable interview with J.P. Miller, including Miller’s description of his marriage and his answer when asked whether there was anything he would have done differently.
McHugh explains what those answers revealed to him and discusses an email in which he says Miller addressed some of the conduct Mica had accused him of.
The conversation also turns to the federal criminal case against J.P. Miller. Miller was indicted in December 2025 on cyberstalking and false-statement charges and pleaded not guilty. His federal case has since faced repeated delays.
Importantly, J.P. Miller has not been charged in connection with Mica Miller’s death.
Why did Mica’s story resonate with so many people? Could her case change how the law addresses coercive control? And after everything Rich McHugh uncovered, what questions does he believe still need answers?
Rich McHugh joins Billy Bush for an in-depth look inside the Mica Miller story, the investigation, his extraordinary interview with J.P. Miller, and the case that continues to raise questions two years later.
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