Introducing “LATE BLOOMERS”, the podcast where Rich and Rox Pink—self-proclaimed experts in how to mess up your life—share their raw and unfiltered journey from...
THE CHERRY TREE THEORY: Why changing your environment is the key to personal growth
What if the reason you’re struggling isn’t you—but the environment you’re in? In this episode, Rox and Rich dive into The Cherry Tree Theory, a powerful way to reframe personal growth, self-sabotage, and why some people thrive while others feel stuck.
They break down why self-blame keeps you trapped, how past experiences shape your ability to grow, and why the right environment is more important than just "trying harder." Instead of forcing yourself to change, what if you changed the conditions around you? Taking inspiration from Mother Nature herself they reveal five surprising steps for personal thriving:
1) Stop poisoning yourself
2) Heal your roots
3) Start pruning
4) Find new soil
5) Nurture your growth
If you’ve ever felt stuck, like personal growth isn’t working, or like something invisible is holding you back—this episode might just change the way you see yourself forever.
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THE SHAME SPIRAL: How to stop feeling like a failure and embrace who you are
Why do so many people with ADHD struggle with shame? In this episode, Rox and Rich break down the cycle of self-criticism, exploring how productivity culture, masking, and forgetfulness fuel feelings of failure. Rox opens up about her own experiences with shame—from harsh self-talk and fear of judgment to the pressure to appear "put together"—and how it impacted her relationships, creativity, and mental health.
Rich shares his perspective on supporting a partner with ADHD, highlighting the importance of compassion, communication, and breaking free from unrealistic expectations. Together, they unpack the difference between shame and guilt, why self-acceptance is essential, and how reframing your inner dialogue can transform your self-esteem.
You’ll also hear practical tools for overcoming shame, including:
Rewriting negative narratives about yourself
Letting go of perfectionism and over-apologizing
Doubling down on your strengths instead of fixating on your struggles
Surrounding yourself with people who see and accept the real you
If you've ever felt like you're "not good enough" or that your ADHD makes you a failure, this episode is a reminder: You are not broken. And it's time to start believing that.
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ADHD & RELATIONSHIPS: Learning to love through sensitivity, forgetfulness, and miscommunication
Falling in love is easy. Staying in love—especially when ADHD is in the mix—is where the real work begins. In this episode, Rox opens up about her relationship history: falling fast, struggling with communication, and repeating patterns she didn’t understand until her ADHD diagnosis. She shares why celibacy, sobriety, and therapy helped her break free from the cycle of intense romance and heartbreak—and how meeting Rich changed everything.
Rich dives into the three biggest challenges of loving someone with ADHD:
Communication: How direct vs. emotional communication styles lead to frustration—and why “out of sight, out of mind” doesn’t mean “out of love.”
Forgetfulness: The impact of forgotten promises and messy environments—and why tone matters when asking for help.
Emotional Intensity: Navigating Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria (RSD), why ADHD is rooted in sensitivity, and the challenge of feeling “too much.”
But it’s not all hard work—there’s beauty in ADHD, too. Rox and Rich explore the superpowers of empathy, creativity, and humor that have strengthened their bond. Through honesty, kindness, and a whole lot of trial and error, they've learned that curiosity—not judgment—is the key to making love last.
If you've ever felt like your emotions are too big, your forgetfulness is too frustrating, or your relationships are too chaotic—this episode is for you.
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SEXPECTATIONS: The pressure, the shame, and the reality of sex in long-term relationships
Sex is everywhere—movies, TV, social media—but it’s always the honeymoon version. No one talks about what happens when the obsession fades, when life gets in the way, or when desire feels more like a pressure than a passion. In this episode, Rox and Rich dive into the unspoken struggles of long-term intimacy, from the countdown clock of “how long it’s been” to the shame of lower desire and the weight of unrealistic expectations.
They unpack the pressure society puts on both men and women—why Rox feels hyper-aware of when they last had sex, and why Rich worried he wasn’t "good enough." They get real about sober sex, the anxiety that comes with it, and how neurodivergence (like PDA struggles and black-and-white thinking) can make intimacy even more complex.
How often should couples be having sex? Is there a magic number? And most importantly, how do you build intimacy without making it feel like a chore? Spoiler: it’s all about communication, trust, and ditching the expectations.
This one’s raw, real, and maybe a little too honest. But no one’s alone in this—so let’s talk about it.
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ROCK STAR MENTALITY: Why failure is your best friend and audacity is your greatest asset
In this episode, Rich interviews Rox about her journey to becoming RØRY, the rock star she always dreamed of being. Rox opens up about the 20-year battle with trauma, addiction, and imposter syndrome that kept her dreams on hold. She shares why chasing success later in life is powerful, how sobriety became her turning point, and why a creative pursuit is perfect for ADHD brains craving constant novelty.
Rox explains how she overcame the fear of failure, lost everything with her first album, and built herself back up with audacity and confidence. They discuss the realities of pursuing big dreams when you've faced trauma and don't have a stable safety net. Rox leaves listeners with three pieces of game-changing advice for creatives: fail forward, be audacious, and act as if you already are who you want to be.
Whether you're a dreamer, a late bloomer, or someone searching for the confidence to take your shot, this episode is for you.
Introducing “LATE BLOOMERS”, the podcast where Rich and Rox Pink—self-proclaimed experts in how to mess up your life—share their raw and unfiltered journey from barely surviving to thriving.
Between them, they’ve
• Drowned in debt
• Battled addictions
• Survived multiple divorces
• Quit countless jobs
• Faced severe mental health struggles
Now, with over 5 million followers and two Sunday Times bestselling books, they’re here to prove that no matter how messy life gets, it’s never too late to turn it around.
Tune in for candid conversations and hard-earned lessons. This is your no bullsh*t guide to personal growth.
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