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- Episode 255
Experts Don Compton & Laura Steacy explore the complexities of multisyllabic word reading and the decoding challenges older readers encounter, especially those with dyslexia. They discuss how readers navigate complex words using different decoding strategies, the role of morphology and “set for variability” in reading development, and how tools like the DELP database help predict word difficulty. The episode offers practical insights into supporting literacy development and improving instruction for struggling readers.
Resources
D-ELP Tool
FCRR Student Center Activities
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Interested in bringing Melissa & Lori Love Literacy to your school or event? Email us at literacypodcast@greatminds.org. - Episode 254
In this episode, we sit down with kindergarten teacher Anjanette McNeely to take a close look at one powerful instructional routine: word chaining.
Anjanette walks us through exactly what word chaining looks like in her classroom, from the materials she uses to the language she says, and explains why this routine is such an effective way to build both phonemic awareness and phonics at the same time.
We also explore how word chaining supports orthographic mapping, why connecting sounds to print matters, and how small instructional shifts, like continuous blending and interleaving, can have a big impact on student learning.
Whether you're new to word chaining or looking to refine your practice, this episode offers practical ideas you can try right away.
Resources
Word Chaining: An Efficient and Effective Alternative to Oral Phonemic Awareness by Anjanette McNeely: Blog post about word chaining and a video of Anjanette's classroom in action
Word Chaining: A Simple Routine for Reading and Spelling (printable) You can see a picture of Anjanette's word chaining tray here
Word Chains for Decoding and Encoding Practice: An overview on how to make and use word chains to teach decoding and encoding (from UFLI)
44 Phonemes (video): Learn how to pronounce the 44 phonemes in the English alphabet (from Rollins Center for Language and Literacy)
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Interested in bringing Melissa & Lori Love Literacy to your school or event? Email us at literacypodcast@greatminds.org. [Listen Again] What Research Says About Phonemic Awareness Instruction with Matt Burns
19/06/2026 | 45 mins.We’re revisiting this episode with Matt Burns because it offers one of the clearest explanations of phonemic awareness and how it fits into reading instruction.
In this conversation, Matt helps unpack what the research actually says and what that means for what we prioritize in the classroom. He explains why phonemic awareness is not a standalone precursor to reading, but develops alongside it, and why decoding should take center stage as students move into the upper elementary grades.
If you’ve ever felt unsure about how phonemic awareness fits into your instruction, or what to focus on as students progress, this episode brings clarity and practical direction.
Resources
Phonemic Awareness, Research, Misconceptions, and Fads with Dr. Matt Burns
They Say You Can Do Phonemic Awareness Instruction “In the Dark”, But Should You? A Critical Evaluation of the Trend Toward Advanced Phonemic Awareness Training
RIP to Advanced Phonemic Awareness | Shanahan on Literacy
Phonemic Awareness with Letters YouTube video, Matt Burns
Matt Burns YouTube Channel
National Reading Panel Report
Elkonin Boxes, Reading Rockets
Florida Center for Reading Research
UFLI Foundations
Ep. 159: Back to School: Science of Reading or Snake Oil with Holly Lane
Road to the Code, Book
IES Practice Guides
Empirical Analysis of Drill Ratio Research: Refining the Instructional Level for Drill Tasks, Matt Burns (meta-analysis)
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Interested in bringing Melissa & Lori Love Literacy to your school or event? Email us at literacypodcast@greatminds.org.- Episode 253
In this episode, we talk with Marianne Rice about key findings from a Tennessee report examining how well early literacy materials align with research on phonemic awareness and early reading instruction. Marianne walks us through five essential practices that can help teachers make the most of their instructional time:
focusing on phoneme-level work
using articulatory gestures
connecting phonemic awareness to print
being mindful of instructional time
prioritizing blending and segmenting.
Throughout the conversation, Marianne shares practical ways teachers can evaluate and adjust their current curriculum without starting from scratch.
The big takeaway: small instructional shifts, especially connecting sounds to print and focusing on blending and segmenting, can have a big impact on helping students become strong readers and spellers.
Resources
Kindergarten and First-Grade HQIM Alignment with Research on Code-Focused Instruction: Tennessee Early Literacy Report (referenced in the episode)
5 Focus Areas for Phonemic Awareness (printable)
44 Phonemes (video): Learn how to pronounce the 44 phonemes in the English alphabet (from Rollins Center for Language and Literacy)
Word Chains for Decoding and Encoding Practice: An overview on how to make and use word chains to teach decoding and encoding (from UFLI)
What Works Clearinghouse Guide: Foundational Skills to Support Reading for Understanding in Kindergarten Through 3rd Grade
Phonemic Awareness: A Meta-Analysis for Planning (need ILA access)
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Interested in bringing Melissa & Lori Love Literacy to your school or event? Email us at literacypodcast@greatminds.org. - Episode 252
What actually happens when students encounter a complex text?
In this episode, we’re joined by Luke Morin to discuss his article "Wading Into the Deep End: What Reading Actually Requires When the Text Gets Hard." Luke shares a powerful classroom moment where students applied reading strategies before tackling a tough text and still couldn’t make sense of a single sentence. That experience led him to rethink what it really means to teach reading.
In this conversation, we explore:
Why using strategies doesn’t guarantee understanding
How text complexity is shaped by the interaction between text, reader, and task
What collective close reading looks like in practice
How to provide “lily pad” supports without rescuing students
Luke challenges the idea that comprehension can be reduced to checklists or isolated skills. Instead, he offers a vision of instruction that prepares students to wade into deep water with support, intention, and growing independence.
RESOURCES
"Wading Into the Deep End: What Reading Actually Requires When the Text Gets Hard" by Luke Morin
"A Lily Pad, in Practice" (Collective Close Reading Sample)
"Why Mastery Doesn't Matter" by Luke Morin
"The Surprising Power of the Humble Worksheet" by Luke Morin
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Melissa & Lori Love Literacy® is a science of reading podcast for teachers who want to understand how reading really works and what that means for classroom instruction.Each month, Melissa & Lori explore topics in reading instruction by talking with researchers, authors, and classroom teachers who are bringing reading research into their classrooms.Melissa & Lori are like the teachers next door, now behind the mic. They learn alongside listeners and ask the same questions educators everywhere are asking: What does the research say about reading? What does strong literacy instruction actually look like in real classrooms? Through these conversations, the podcast helps bridge the gap between reading research and day-to-day teaching.Episodes explore topics including phonemic awareness, phonics, fluency, vocabulary, comprehension, writing, spelling, reading intervention, and other key areas of structured literacy instruction.Melissa & Lori help teachers think through what reading research can look like in their own classrooms.
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