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Brooke Eliason
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  • 91. Seven Brothers: From a Humble Grill in Hawaii to 16 Locations & Counting
    Join thousands of other listeners on our Substack, The Foodletter!   In this inspiring and insight-packed episode, Brooke sits down with Utah-based entrepreneur and restaurateur Shem Hannemann to talk about the highs, lows, and hard truths of building restaurant brands that people love. Shem opens up about his early creative ventures, what it really takes to start a restaurant from scratch, and how his passion for design, people, and food have fueled a career rooted in both hospitality and hustle. From the initial concept of Sunday’s Best to facing hard moments of burnout, Shem delivers a transparent and motivating look at what it takes to succeed in the food world—and how staying curious and community-focused keeps him moving forward.   Whether you're a restaurant lover, aspiring business owner, or creative looking for inspiration, this episode delivers clarity, honesty, and encouragement in spades.   Key Takeaways [03:28] Family Roots and Resilience: Shem’s grandparents immigrated from Samoa to Hawaii, seeking better opportunities. Their hard work and sacrifice laid the foundation for the family’s success. [08:17] The Power of Family and Culture: Surfing and the ocean played a central role in keeping the brothers connected and grounded, influencing the restaurant’s beach-themed branding. [16:17] From Humble Beginnings to Expansion: The first Seven Brothers location, Kahuku Grill, opened in 2009 with minimal experience and a $2.75 burger that initially lost money. Through word of mouth and community support, the business grew. [19:56] Menu Evolution: The iconic "Shemburger" was born out of experimentation, and the menu expanded from seafood to gourmet burgers, now a cornerstone of the brand. [29:10] Expansion and Franchising: Seven Brothers now has multiple locations (4 in Hawaii, 7 in Utah, and 1 in Arizona), with 4 more opening soon. Franchising has allowed local families to bring the brand to their communities. [41:05] Lessons in Resilience: Shem credits his parents’ optimism and hard work as the driving force behind the business’s success, emphasizing the mantra "this too shall pass."   Notable Quotes (3:28) "Our grandparents immigrated from Samoa to Hawaii. They wanted a better life for their kids... my dad comes from a family of 14." (15:40) “Don’t do it—it’s the highest fail rate... we don’t have experience.” (42:20) “This too shall pass… good times or bad—just weather it. Something good will come.” – Shem Hannemann (46:39) “It’s a mess, but it’s my favorite burger right now.”   Resources Visit the official Seven Brothers website. Follow Seven Brothers on Instagram Follow Female Foodie on Instagram  
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  • 90. How Thirst Drinks Founder Ethan Cisneros Built One Of Utah’s Fastest-Growing & Most Beloved Drink Brands
    Join thousands of other listeners on our Substack, The Foodletter!   In this high-energy, entrepreneurial episode, Brooke sits down with Ethan Cisneros, founder of the beloved Utah-based drink and treat chain Thirst. Ethan dives deep into how he started the company at just 22 years old and scaled it into a rapidly growing business built on branding, customer experience, and unapologetic hustle. From hand-delivering cookies on Instagram to using content creation as a hiring tool, Ethan offers a masterclass in what it means to obsess over your customer and build community through food and drinks.   Whether you're a budding entrepreneur, a fan of Thirst, or just love stories about big dreams and bold execution, this episode delivers both inspiration and practical insights in equal measure.   Key Takeaways [04:18] Starting Small, Dreaming Big: Ethan started with a lawn-mowing business as a kid, learning customer service and hard work early on. [05:37] The Power of Experience: A shaved ice shack taught him that customers pay for the experience, not just the product. [12:12] Content = Currency: Ethan built his team and brand through content, using social media not just to promote but to recruit and retain top talent. [23:14] Unique Offerings: Thirst stands out with fresh-baked pretzels and beignets, made from scratch at every location. [28:01] Scaling Challenges: Ethan’s focus shifted from operations to cultivating culture and leadership as the company grew. [30:07] Positivity as a Strategy: Thirst’s motto, “Positivity is infectious,” drives their team and customer interactions. [34:50] Long-Term Vision: Ethan sees Thirst as a lifelong venture, aiming to compete with giants like Sonic in the drinks-and-treats market.   Notable Quotes (16:55) “When you have more time than money, that’s when you need to hustle.” (32:46) “We don’t train [employees to give free drinks], but we do train to wow the customer—within reason, do whatever it takes.” (20:10) “Slow and steady wins the race. We’ve been around for almost 10 years, but I truly feel like we’re just getting started.”  (39:09) “I’m grateful for my grandpa’s work ethic. It got passed to my dad, then to me, and now I want to pass it to my son.”   Resources Visit the official Thirst website. Follow Ethan and Thirst on Instagram Follow Female Foodie on Instagram  
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  • 89. 7 All Time Favorite 30-Min Meals
    Join thousands of other listeners on our Substack, The Foodletter!   Brooke Eliason shares seven of her all-time favorite 30-minute meals—each one tested, loved, and perfect for busy weeknights. As a mom of three and passionate food writer, Brooke knows how crucial it is to have fast, reliable, and delicious recipes that don’t compromise on flavor. From comforting curries to vibrant steak tacos and a recipe inspired by a €350 Michelin-starred lunch in Italy, this episode is packed with inspiration for your next weeknight dinner. Tune in for practical tips, recipe backstories, and Brooke’s signature enthusiasm for food that’s both easy and exceptional. Notable Quotes “Life’s too short to eat bad food.”  “Even a 30-minute meal can feel impossible at 5 p.m. with hungry kids—these recipes are my lifeline.”  “You don’t need 2 hours to cook something amazing. These recipes are proof.”   Resources 30-Minute Gnocchi Bolognese Lemon Chicken Piccata Thai Coconut Curry Meatballs Sirloin Steak Tacos 30-Minute Chickpea Curry Asian Chicken Thighs with Sesame Peanut Slaw Shrimp Quesadillas with Chipotle Lime Crema Follow Female Foodie on Instagram  
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  • 88. Kenji López-Alt: James Beard Award Winner, 3x Best-Selling Author, and A Master of Food Science
    Join thousands of other listeners on our Substack, The Foodletter!   In this insightful episode, Brooke sits down with the multi-hyphenate culinary voice J. Kenji López-Alt to discuss his unconventional journey from biology student to architecture major to professional cook—and ultimately, one of the most influential food writers of our time. Kenji opens up about the roots of The Food Lab, the success of The Wok, his love of food science, and how personal experiences shaped his approach to recipe development. From peeling 1,000 eggs in a data-driven experiment to publishing a children's book about expanding food preferences, Kenji's blend of curiosity, humor, and rigor shines throughout. He also shares his recent journey to sobriety, offering a powerful and honest reflection on what it means to live with intention.   Whether you're a professional cook, home chef, or food lover, this conversation will leave you inspired to explore, experiment, and cook with greater understanding.   Key Takeaways [01:22] Early Influences: Despite not growing up food-obsessed, Kenji’s culinary passion emerged during college and blossomed through unexpected restaurant work. [07:26] The Food Lab Origin: A freelance $30 article on boiling eggs sparked the wildly successful Food Lab series and cookbook. [10:15] Finding His Voice: Inspired by Mr. Wizard and Jacques Pépin, Kenji combines education and entertainment to empower readers. [15:56] Testing with Integrity: Kenji conducted a 1,000-egg experiment with volunteer testers to scientifically identify the easiest method for peeling boiled eggs. [19:12] Behind the Cookbooks: The Food Lab began as a 300-page contract and grew into a 958-page tome—followed by The Wok, which evolved from a single missing chapter. [26:53] Favorite Recipes: From a chickpea-spinach stew to his mom’s Mapo Tofu, Kenji highlights family-friendly, simple, and flexible favorites. [31:45] Every Night Is Pizza Night: His children’s book was born from a desire to teach openness toward food and push back against “best recipe” culture. [41:00] On Sobriety: Kenji shares his deeply personal journey toward sobriety, how alcohol once shaped his decisions, and why he chose to speak publicly to help others.   Notable Quotes (9:52) “I wanted to write the kind of cookbook I wish I had when I was learning to cook.” (13:05) “We take food seriously, but not ourselves.” (33:00) “Pizza might be your favorite food, but is it the best food for every occasion?” (44:57) “Addiction thrives in isolation. Sobriety thrives in connection.”   Resources Check out Kenji’s Patreon and YouTube channel Alcohol, we need to talk on YouTube The Food Lab: Better Home Cooking Through Science The Wok: Recipes and Techniques Every Night Is Pizza Night Connect with Kenji on Instagram Follow Female Foodie on Instagram  
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  • 87. How Italy Expert Livia Hengel Turned Her Passion for Travel into a Global Career
    Join thousands of other listeners on our Substack, The Foodletter!   In this inspiring and wanderlust-filled episode, Brooke chats with Rome-based food and travel writer Livia Hengel. From a childhood spent across continents to building a career spotlighting Italy’s culinary and cultural gems, Livia shares her serendipitous journey into travel writing and the creation of her digital magazine The Italy Edit. Listeners will gain an inside look into Italian culture, hidden gems across the country, Livia’s top recommendations for off-the-beaten-path Rome, and why she believes solo travel can be transformational. Whether you’re dreaming of Italy or planning your next big trip, this episode is packed with rich insights and practical inspiration.   Key Takeaways [01:05] A Diplomatic Childhood: Livia grew up globally due to her diplomat father and Italian mother, sparking her lifelong love for travel and food. [04:00] The Accidental Italy Expert: After college, Livia moved back to Rome unexpectedly and began documenting her experiences—eventually leading to a career in travel writing and photography. [9:10] Founding The Italy Edit: Launched in 2020, The Italy Edit grew organically into a robust digital magazine with over 60 contributors covering all corners of Italy. [22:40] Underrated Gem: Naples: Naples surprised Livia and became one of her favorite cities for its raw beauty, culture, and unparalleled pizza scene. [27:45] Global Wanderer: Livia explains her passion for solo travel across Asia and North Africa, emphasizing the transformative power of pushing beyond your comfort zone. [35:25] Rome, Past & Present: Livia shares her ideal "off-the-grid" day in Rome, complete with coffee among statues, row boats in Villa Borghese, and a visit to the aqueducts. [41:17] The Power of a Solo Meal: Her most memorable meal? A solo Michelin-star experience in Hong Kong, where solitude heightened her awareness and joy.   Notable Quotes (14:08) “I live my life because I don’t want to have any regrets on my deathbed.” (19:30) “Italy nourishes the soul, but I do miss the forward motion and innovation of the U.S.” (28:02) “You grow the most at the edge of your comfort zone.” (41:40) “A solo meal can be one of the most enriching experiences—you taste every bite more deeply.”   Resources The Best New Restaurants To Try In Rome In 2022 Check out Livia’s column in Forbes Visit the official The Italy Edit website Pizzeria in Naples: Concettina Ai Tre Santi Follow Livia on Instagram Follow Female Foodie on Instagram  
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A podcast for people who eat, sleep, and breathe all things food. Interviews with people who have shaped the gastronomic world with stories behind their restaurants, products, brands, and recipes. Let's eat.
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