The Building Science Podcast

An interview with Robert Bean and Lance MacNevin
Welcome to an insightful episode where we unpack the invigorated and rapidly transforming world of hydronic heating and cooling. We are joined by two seasoned veterans of the industry, Robert Bean and Lance MacNevin. With many decades of real-world experience and hard-earned perspective between them, they offer a thoughtful and engaging look into why hydronics is at the forefront of modern, highly efficient building practices. Robert is (attempting to be) a retired engineering technology professional and ASHRAE Fellow, while Lance brings his extensive background serving as the Director of Engineering at the Plastics Pipe Institute.
This episode is packed with sound-bite worthy moments as our guests cut through the noise to discuss the realities of hydronic-based thermal comfort. Whether you are a homeowner, architect, or builder, you will find their independent, expert perspectives well worth listening to and holding on to. This is definitely an episode you will want to bookmark and share with anyone interested in the future of the HVAC industry!
This episode is packed with sound-bite worthy moments and powerful ideas, including the striking observation that "We spend more time researching a new phone purchase than we do for the quality of our indoor environment." Our guests cut through the noise to discuss the realities of hydronic-based thermal comfort systems. Whether you are a homeowner, architect, or builder, you will find their independent, expert perspectives well worth knowing. This is definitely an episode you will want to bookmark and share with anyone interested in the future of the HVAC industry.

Robert Bean
Robert Bean is a retired engineering technology professional who specialized in the design of indoor environments and high-performance building systems. Mr. Bean is an ASHRAE Fellow and ASHRAE Distinguished Lecturer, recipient of the Lou Flagg Award, Distinguished Service Award, and instructor for the ASHRAE Learning Institute. He has authored many papers, articles, and course curricula, and has served on numerous technical committees related to indoor environmental quality, building, and energy systems.

Lance MacNevin
Lance MacNevin, P.Eng. is the senior director of engineering for the Plastics Pipe Institute’s Building & Construction Division, with expertise on pressure pipes such as CPVC, HDPE, PEX, PE-RT, and PP. Lance has been in the plastic pipe industry since 1993, working as an R&D engineer, codes and standards specialist, and trainer for a major piping manufacturer for over twenty years before joining PPI in 2015. In this role, he focuses on plumbing and mechanical systems, coordinating research, education, and advocacy activities. He is an active member of ASHRAE, ASPE, ASTM, AWWA, CSA, IAPMO, ICC, IGSHPA, NSF, and RPA.

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Hosted by Kristof Irwin
Edited by Nico Mignardi
Produced by M. Walker

An interview with Dr. Eva King
Our homes are indoor environments of our own making. These environments exist to make our lives better but often unintentionally expose us to contaminants—chemical and microbial—that harm our health and wellbeing. For genetically susceptible individuals, these routine exposures can trigger a breakdown in the body's natural tolerance, leading to chronic inflammatory and neurological symptoms such as CIRS, TILT, and PANS/PANDAS. In a sadly apt metaphor, we are the canaries and our home is the coal mine.
Today, we are joined by a frontline expert in this field, Dr. Eva King. Eva holds a Masters in Biochemistry and a Doctorate in Immunology/Epidemiology from the University of Oxford. She has dedicated more than two decades investigating the intersection of indoor environments and human health. Her focus is helping clients with underlying medical conditions identify and address building-related issues that contribute to their health problems. This interview is fuel for the journey to flip our indoor environments from being a major contributor to chronic disease to becoming a primary solution. This is a central and sobering topic for all of us with agency in the AEC. Please listen and share.

Eva King
Dr. Eva King, principal and founder of AURA EnviroScience, has been involved in investigations and research into indoor environments and health, allergens, asthma and immunology for about 20 years. Her work has been published in many peer-reviewed scientific publications, and she regularly presents at conferences and workshops.
Her focus is helping clients with underlying medical conditions identify building-related problems that contribute to their health issues, often by direct physician referral.
Dr. King received her Master in Biochemistry in her native Germany, and her Doctorate in Immunology/Epidemiology from the University of Oxford, UK, and is a Council-certified Indoor Environmental Consultant (CIEC, ACAC #180311).
She is a member of ASHRAE, the American Industrial Hygiene Association (AIHA), American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH), and the International Society of Indoor Air Quality and Climate (ISIAQ), and previously served on the Board of Directors and as Technical Conference Chair of the Indoor Air Quality Association.

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Hosted by Kristof Irwin
Edited by Nico Mignardi
Produced by M. Walker

The Humid Climate Conference (HCC) is officially back in Austin this May 4th & 5th, and we have a fantastic line up of speakers and topics for our 10th anniversary. It’s time to step away from the Zoom screen and have some live 3D human interaction!
Today’s episode is a public service announcement to join us in Austin to recharge our collective motivation and determination. We often talk about the system lens of building science, but we tend to forget that we ourselves are part of a larger system. This conference is an energy boost that charges us up with understanding, perspective and enthusiasm that only get generated when we’re in the same room.
This year, The Humid Climate Conferences dives into the intersection of Risks, Realities, and Rewards and how they guide and motivate appropriate design and construction in humid climates.
Whether you're here for the Phius passive house technical deep dives, to reconnect with friends and colleagues at the famous after party happy hours, or just to soak up some Austin energy, this is one event you simply cannot miss. Check the link in the show notes to learn more and secure your spot.

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Hosted by Kristof Irwin
Edited by Nico Mignardi
Produced by M. Walker

An interview with Dr. Sarah Haines
The Indoor Microbiome is the complex, invisible world of microorganisms living within our daily surroundings, serving as the primary ecological interface through which buildings influence human biology. In this light, we are beginning to view indoor environments not merely as passive shelters, but as powerful positive health interventions that can actively shape our immune development and long-term wellbeing.
Today, we are joined by Dr. Sarah Haines, Assistant Professor at the University of Toronto and Principal Investigator of the IMEE Lab, to explore the foundational framework behind this shift. We will discuss the emerging perspective of "biologically informed architectural design" and the fact that architects and interior designers don’t just curate materials, they curate our basic microbial exposures and therefore our health and wellbeing.

Sarah Haines
Dr. Sarah R. Haines is an interdisciplinary researcher and educator working at the intersection of building science, environmental engineering, and microbiology to investigate how indoor environments shape human health. Assistant Professor in the Department of Civil and Mineral Engineering at the University of Toronto, the Principal Investigator of the Indoor Microbiology and Environmental Exposures (IMEE) Lab and member of the Hub for Advancing Buildings. She holds a BS in Environmental Engineering and an MS and PhD in Environmental Science from The Ohio State University. Her research focuses on maintaining healthy and sustainable indoor environments through detection and characterization of abiotic and biotic indoor exposures using a variety of techniques​. She integrates community-based participatory research, advanced molecular techniques (e.g., high-throughput sequencing, digital PCR, metatranscriptomics) and filter forensics to examine microbial dynamics and contaminant exposures indoors.
Her work includes studies of moisture-driven mold growth in building materials, microbial volatile organic compound emissions, and the use of filter dust to estimate airborne concentrations of contaminants and pathogens, including SARS-CoV-2. Through this research, she develops practical, evidence-based strategies to reduce harmful indoor exposures, particularly in the context of climate change and housing inequities.
Prof. Haines is a member of the American Association for Aerosol Research (AAAR) and the International Society of Indoor Air Quality and Climate (ISIAQ), as well as the Institute of Health Emergencies and Pandemics (IHEP) contributing to interdisciplinary efforts that connect indoor air quality, building performance and health. She was the 2024 recipient of the University of Toronto Faculty of Applied Science & Engineering Early Career Teaching Award, recognized for excellence in teaching and mentorship.

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Hosted by Kristof Irwin
Edited by Nico Mignardi
Produced by M. Walker

An interview with Benjamin Jewell.
This is Part 2 of our latest series to familiarize our industry with the world of hydronics systems and air-to-water heat pumps. In Part 2 we’re rejoining the conversation to look at controls - the "central nervous systems" of these hydronics. We’re moving beyond old-school mechanical switches to a new class of microprocessor based systems that prioritize "outcomes"—like thermal comfort and air quality—rather than just reacting to thermostat calls. This shift is about adding intelligence that anticipates comfort needs and makes the system more stable and predictable for both the installer and the homeowner .
We also dive into the high-stakes world of the global refrigerant transition and how hydronic systems allow a home to become "refrigerant agnostic" and truly future-proofed . We unpack the potential of natural refrigerants like R-290 (propane) and discuss why builders and developers are the key stakeholders in the transition of this product class from high-end homes to the baseline approach for every home that’s built. We wrap up by looking at how simplified "kit" solutions are finally removing the traditional barriers of labor and complexity to make hydronics accessible for the mainstream market.

Benjamin Jewell
Director of Carrier Hydronics NA (Climate Solutions Americas)
As the Director of Carrier Hydronics North America within the Climate Solutions Americas division, Ben Jewell leads a multifaceted organization comprising Product, Engineering, and Technical Services teams. His leadership spans the entire product lifecycle, from initial development and long-term strategic planning to the integration of digital tools and portfolio management. Ben is dedicated to stewarding residential and light commercial hydronic products across a diverse range of differentiated brands, driving his team to win every day through innovation and operational excellence.
Before joining Carrier, Ben spent over four years as a Senior Product Line Manager for Viessmann Climate Solutions. During this time, he managed extensive portfolios in the residential and light commercial sectors, specializing in heat pumps, chillers, domestic water heating, ventilation, indoor air quality, and air distribution. This deep technical foundation informs his current approach to solving complex climate challenges and delivering high-performance solutions to the market.
Beyond his executive responsibilities, Ben is a passionate advocate for mentorship and industry education. He frequently invests his time in sharing resources and supporting those looking to solve tough problems that make the world a better place, including contributing to industry knowledge through podcasting. Driven by the goal of being a proactive force in the world, Ben aims to look back on his career with the confidence that he "happened to the world" by making a tangible, positive impact on the industry and the environment.
On a personal level, Ben is a devoted husband and a father to three daughters, a dog owner, and a "food rescue" enthusiast. While he describes himself as an average fly fisherman and perhaps a naturalist in another life, he spends the bulk of his days enjoying what he considers his dream career. His journey has taken him from Iowa City to Milford, Connecticut, and Stony Brook, New York, eventually leading him to his forever home base in Fort Collins, Colorado. Despite his many moves, he remains a loyal Iowa Hawkeye at heart—Go Hawks!

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Hosted by Kristof Irwin
Edited by Nico Mignardi
Produced by M. Walker