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The Demystifying Cosmetics Podcast

Jennifer Cookson | Tagra Biotechnologies
The Demystifying Cosmetics Podcast
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  • Fragrance with Purpose: Building Sustainable Scent Strategies with Cassandra Browning
    Fragrance has the power to spark memories, define brands, and create lasting emotional connections—but how can it also do good? In this 30-minute conversation, Cassandra Browning, founder of Fragrances for Good, shares her vision for a more conscious and innovative fragrance industry.With a degree in aroma and formulation science from the UK and experience spanning global fragrance houses including L'Oréal and as EU fragrance head for Ecover and Method, Cassandra brings rare expertise bridging creative and technical aspects of fragrance.Takeaways:Context Makes a Fragrance Brief Effective: A good fragrance brief goes far beyond describing how something should smell. Include target demographic, brand positioning goals, whether you're trying to disrupt or align with category norms, and how the launch fits your overall brand strategy. This context allows fragrance houses to make strategic recommendations, like suggesting vanilla over apple for disrupting a 50-year-old woman's dishwashing habits.No Universal Standards for Fragrance Sustainability: Each fragrance contains at least 30 ingredients, each with its own complex supply chain, making sustainability assessment extremely difficult. Fragrance houses are creating internal scorecards measuring renewability and naturality, but metrics like water use, land impact, and carbon footprint are nearly impossible to standardize. Even getting competing fragrance houses to agree on basic definitions is extraordinarily challenging.Natural Doesn't Equal Sustainable or Safe: The assumption that natural ingredients are automatically better is flawed. It takes 10,000 pounds of rose petals to make one pound of rose oil, creating massive water, land, and energy impacts. Natural ingredients also contain more allergens. Meanwhile, some eco-labels like Nordic Swan advocate for 100% synthetic ingredients as better for skin and environment, while others like Ecosurf require 100% essential oils.Build Olfactory Brand Identity Before Individual Products: Successful multi-category brands establish a clear fragrance strategy defining what their brand stands for olfactively, like "fragrances found in nature" or specific adjectives and performance levels. This framework then guides all product development across categories, ensuring consistency while meeting individual category norms, rather than treating each fragrance as a standalone decision.Innovation Requires Balancing Disruption with Consumer Comfort: In established categories like toothpaste or laundry where consumers associate specific scents with efficacy (mint equals clean teeth, certain notes equal clean laundry), innovation must find ways to differentiate through ingredient stories, sourcing narratives, or technical approaches while maintaining the non-negotiable comfort signals consumers expect.Connect with Cassandra and learn more about strategic fragrance development at: https://www.fragrancesforgood.com/
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  • More Than a Molecule: What It Really Takes to Launch a New Cosmetic Ingredient with James Dillard
    In this candid 30-minute conversation, James Dillard shares what he wishes he had known before launching a new cosmetic ingredient—and what every formulator, brand founder, and raw material supplier should understand about the realities of innovation in beauty. We explore: Why scientific elegance isn’t enough—and what actually moves decision-makers, the invisible gatekeepers that stall ingredient adoption, how messaging, not just molecule design, shapes commercial success, why the industry’s narrow lens can block cross-industry innovation and the importance of storytelling, positioning, and relentless clarity.Takeaways:• The Unconventional Entry Point: James entered cosmetics through kelp as a zero-input crop, choosing beauty over nutraceuticals due to small-scale manufacturing requirements and high-value products. The beauty industry operates as a warm, tight-knit community that takes care of its own once you earn trust.• Scientific Elegance Isn't Enough: Ingredient developers must translate technical performance into consumer benefits. Buyers want uniqueness that creates lasting customer relationships, not just novel chemistry. Understanding that "unique" might mean a plant-based pump spray mineral sunscreen, not impressive lab results.• Focus on One Use Case, Not Everything: Claiming your ingredient works for everything reads as "good for nothing." Focus on being 10 out of 10 in one specific application to overcome the risk hurdle. Customers will naturally experiment with other uses over time and feed back into your innovation loop.• Expect Long Sales Cycles and Build Trust Slowly: Plan for 12-18 month sales cycles with the first six months just building trust. The industry won't trust you until they see you at conferences twice. This creates challenges for startups needing to show investors concrete commitments beyond handshake deals.• Contract Manufacturers Can Enable Innovation: CMs are uniquely positioned to offer conditional contracts to ingredient startups, solving the chicken-and-egg problem of scaling. This would allow startups to show investor traction while giving CMs exclusive access to novel ingredients that differentiate their offerings.Whether you're a startup trying to break into the ingredient space or a brand overwhelmed by the influx of “next-gen” actives, this episode offers an unfiltered look at the grind behind the gloss.
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  • The Scented Truth: Decoding Fragrance Transparency in Beauty
    Today’s episode dives into the fragrant but often foggy world of fragrance in cosmetics. Joining us is Ashlee Posner, co-founder of Lucent Labs, a fragrance and formulation partner helping brands navigate the space between creativity, compliance, and consumer trust.Together, we explore the tension between artistry and regulation in scent:Why fragrance is often called a “black box” on ingredient labelsWhat brands don’t have to tell you—and whyWhat’s really hiding under the word “fragrance”Whether “cleanwashing” is the new greenwashingWho’s actually responsible for fragrance safety—and what can fall through the cracksAnd what Ashlee thinks of IFRA standards and how they shape the industryWhether you’re a brand founder, product formulator, or just a curious consumer who wants more transparency, this episode will open your eyes—and your nose—to what’s really going on behind the scent.Takeaways:• Fragrance Ingredients Are Completely Hidden from Everyone: The word "fragrance" on any product label can represent 50-300 ingredients that remain undisclosed not just to consumers, but also to the brands using them and even chemists working on projects. This information never leaves the fragrance house, creating zero accountability in a system protected by trade secret laws that made sense 100 years ago but are completely outdated today.• The Fragrance Industry Operates as a Controlled Monopoly: Only 4-6 very large businesses control the entire fragrance supply chain, owning both the formulations and the raw materials. This creates a system where these companies have minimal regulation, can lock in customers without transparency, and have no incentive to change because the current model benefits them financially while leaving brands and consumers in the dark.• Natural Doesn't Equal Safe in Fragrance: Many consumers and brands assume natural fragrance ingredients are automatically safer than synthetic ones, but this isn't necessarily true. Natural essential oils can contain carcinogens, endocrine disruptors, and allergens. The key is evaluating each ingredient based on scientific safety data rather than making assumptions based on whether it's natural or synthetic.• Traditional Fragrance Development Is Inefficient and Wasteful: The lack of transparency creates massive inefficiencies where chemists spend months developing formulations only to discover compatibility issues when fragrance is added last. Without knowing what's in the fragrance, they're forced to solve "algebra problems" or use less fragrance, ultimately making inferior products rather than addressing the root compatibility issues.• Transparency Enables Better Products and Faster Development: When fragrance partners share ingredient information upfront, brands can make informed decisions, avoid compatibility issues, get third-party certifications, and develop products faster. Partnership and early collaboration between fragrance developers and formulators leads to better outcomes than the traditional secretive approach.Guest Name: Coleen KelleyWebpage: https://lucentlaboratories.com/Likedin: (https://www.linkedin.com/company/lucent-laboratories/)
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  • Skinminimalism: Doing More With Less in Modern Beauty
    In this episode, we're exploring the rising trend of skinminimalism: the art and science of streamlining your skincare without sacrificing performance. To help break it down, we're joined by Mark Broussard, founder of Desert in Bloom Lab—a formulation and manufacturing expert who's built a career helping brands create high-performing, science-forward products with purpose.Together, we explore:What skinminimalism really means for consumers and brandsThe difference between functional ingredients and "label decoration"Why multi-functional actives and purified plant extracts are keyHow minimalist routines are reshaping product portfoliosAnd what it takes to approach formulation with a "less is more" mindsetKey Takeaways:• Skin Minimalism = Smarter Skincare: It's about fewer ingredients, fewer products, and fewer steps—without sacrificing performance.• The 1% Line Trick: Learning to read ingredient lists helps spot label decoration and identify what's actually doing the work.• Functional vs. Fluff: Functional ingredients like niacinamide and retinol alternatives should be used at optimal concentrations—not just for marketing.• Keep It Simple: A basic, effective routine includes a cleanser, moisturizer, and SPF. That’s it for most skin types.• Layering Caution: Using too many products from different brands can lead to sensitivity and ingredient conflicts.• Product Portfolios Need Streamlining: Brands should evaluate performance and cut portfolio bloat before launching more products.• Formulators Need Restraint: Focus on gold-standard ingredients and avoid ingredient overload.• Less Can Be More Effective: Overuse of actives (e.g. 12% niacinamide) may cause irritation or harm skin instead of helping it.
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  • LCA Isn't the Whole Story: Rethinking Sustainability in Beauty With Evan Peters
    From "low-impact formulas" to "carbon-neutral packaging," beauty brands love a sustainability claim—but what are those claims really based on?In this episode of Demystifying Cosmetics, we sit down with Evan Peters, founder of Fairglo, to unpack the promise and pitfalls of Life Cycle Assessments (LCAs) in the cosmetics industry. We go beyond the buzzwords to explore how system boundaries, data gaps, and marketing spin can shape—and sometimes distort—what LCAs actually reveal about a product's environmental footprint.Evan shares his insights on cradle-to-gate vs. cradle-to-grave approaches, why end-of-life impacts are often left out, and how LCAs can be used to legitimize greenwashing when taken out of context. We also zoom out to consider what LCAs miss entirely—like biodiversity loss, microplastic pollution, and social equity—and why a more holistic toolkit is needed to evaluate sustainability in beauty and personal care.Takeaways:LCAs Are Only as Good as Their Boundaries: Deciding how far back (and forward) to track product impact is crucial—and highly variable.Cradle-to-Gate vs. Cradle-to-Grave: Many brands stop tracking environmental impact once the product leaves the factory, missing key downstream data.Fairglow’s Value Proposition: The platform democratizes LCAs by reducing cost, increasing transparency, and enabling quick scenario testing.Green Claims Need Rigor: Publishing LCA data should include third-party verification, especially for comparative or marketing claims.What LCAs Miss: Emerging sustainability issues—like biodiversity, microplastics, and forced labor—are often outside LCA scope.Natural ≠ Sustainable: Synthetic ingredients can often have lower carbon footprints than “natural” ones like rose oil.Data Is Power—If Organized: Brands must digitize operations to track formulations, packaging, and logistics to get an accurate environmental picture.If you work in product development, sustainability, or just want to understand what’s behind the claims, this 30-minute episode will give you the clarity (and caution) you need to read between the carbon lines.
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About The Demystifying Cosmetics Podcast

The Demystifying Cosmetics podcast, hosted by industry veteran and beauty enthusiast Jennifer Cookson, creates a space for open and insightful conversations about the ever-evolving cosmetics world. At Tagra, we connect chemists, formulators, product developers, and marketers to discuss the latest trends, innovations, and strategies shaping the future of beauty. Join us as we break down technical barriers and uncover the stories and insights driving the next generation of cosmetics.
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