The Demystifying Cosmetics Podcast

In this episode, Jennifer sits down with Alec Batis, whose 30+ year career in beauty spans R&D, marketing, and brand ownership. Alec shares his journey from L'Oréal chemist to founder of Sweet Chemistry, a science-backed skincare brand developed with SUNY Downstate Medical Center. The conversation explores the intersection of chemistry and marketing, the reality of cost-of-goods in beauty formulation, and building a values-driven brand in a prestige-obsessed industry.
Key Takeaways:

Career pivots driven by curiosity and opportunity: Alec's path from chemistry degree to L'Oréal R&D happened through persistence (calling HR monthly for 8 months) and landing a role after an earthquake destroyed Redken's California facility. His transition to marketing came from being vocally opinionated about product positioning during lab visits, ultimately choosing marketing over R&D in France based on salary potential rather than passion alone.
Value analysis reveals the margin games in beauty: Working as a VA chemist evaluating Kiehl's acquisition, Alec learned how brands reformulate products to dramatically reduce cost-of-goods while maintaining identical texture and finish. This exposed the significant margin manipulation possible in prestige beauty, where pricing often reflects positioning strategy rather than ingredient costs or formulation complexity.
Marketing budgets and excess defined 90s beauty culture: The industry operated with unprecedented resources during Alec's L'Oréal marketing years, including Concorde flights to Paris, black town cars for meetings, and mandatory Manolo Blahnik heels for female marketers. This excess created a specific aesthetic and approach to brand building that contrasts sharply with today's leaner, digitally-focused beauty landscape.
Indie brands face impossible cost-of-goods pressures: Without scale, emerging brands must compete against established companies that can negotiate pennies-per-unit pricing through massive volume. Some founders resort to what Alec calls "survival not deception" by using marketing language that stretches truth, often because they lack scientific knowledge about their own formulations and suppliers.
Sweet Chemistry built on value-based pricing not prestige positioning: Rather than following prestige beauty's playbook of charging maximum margins on cleansers or positioning at $400+ based on proprietary technology, Sweet Chemistry prices products according to actual cost-of-goods. The brand manufactures major kind peptides in-house at SUNY Downstate and plans to reduce prices further through economies of scale, prioritizing accessibility over luxury perception.

Manufacturing is where beauty dreams are either built or broken. In this episode of Demystifying Cosmetics, we go past the mood boards and into the factory with Andrea Cid—founder of Miami Growth Machine and owner of Concept II Cosmetics. With a global background spanning Chile, the U.S., the U.K., and Asia (Harvard Economics; Wharton MBA), Andrea breaks down what “small batch” really means—volumes, costs, and flexibility—and why it’s mission-critical for emerging brands. We dig into the realities operators face today: labor dynamics in immigrant-powered teams, inflation and supply-chain pressures, and how savvy founders adjust sourcing and process to stay profitable. We also explore trade policy and tariffs, where risk can flip into opportunity for U.S. manufacturers. Andrea closes with straight-talk advice for first-time founders: how to choose a manufacturing partner, set MOQs and timelines you can actually hit, and where she sees the biggest opportunities over the next few years for beauty and wellness makers.Takeaways:• Iteration Should Be Baked Into Product Launches: Even established brands with major retail distribution shouldn't launch new products with 30,000-50,000 units. Testing products with real consumers at smaller volumes (500-1,500 units initially) reduces risk and allows for necessary adjustments before scaling, because no matter how experienced you are, product development will always surprise you.• Manufacturing Minimums Are About Machine Economics, Not Difficulty: Traditional manufacturers require large MOQs because turning on machines requires staff, time, and changeover costs that only make financial sense at volume. Miami Growth Machine solves this by owning their facility and using extra capacity on their own production lines, allowing them to offer no minimums and scale clients gradually from 25-unit lab batches to full production runs.• Supply Chain Expertise Clusters Geographically by Material: Rather than countries having wholesale advantages, expertise develops around specific materials—China excels in tubes, Brazil offers certain closures, the US is competitive in paper/labels at 5,000+ units. Smart manufacturing means understanding which global vendors specialize in what and comparing quotes across regions for each component rather than sourcing everything domestically or internationally.• Formulate for Supply Chain Flexibility at Launch: When starting out, avoid proprietary ingredient blends with single suppliers that have 510kg minimums and 3-4 month lead times. Instead, formulate with readily available ingredients from multiple vendors to maintain flexibility and reduce risk. Make the conscious decision to lock into specialized ingredients only when differentiation justifies the supply chain complexity and cost.• The Real US Manufacturing Challenge Is Skilled Labor, Not Automation: While automation and robotics get attention, the critical bottleneck is finding competent machinists and mechanics who can maintain and repair equipment. Miami's historically strong immigrant workforce provided this expertise, but current immigration restrictions have significantly shrunk the talent pool, making it harder to scale even when you have the capital to invest in better machines.

What do your products look like to the world? Beyond INCI lists and claims, beauty brands are built—visually. In this episode of Demystifying Cosmetics, Jennifer Cookson is joined by Anderson, the creative mind behind A-Son Agency and By-Anderson, whose photography brings brand philosophies to life. We explore how product photography, creative direction, and brand identity intersect to tell a cohesive visual story. Whether you’re a founder, marketer, or formulator, this episode will make you think differently about the images you use to represent your work.Takeaways:• Social-First Strategy Delivers More Value for Indie Brands: Rather than spending a million dollars on a campaign and tacking on behind-the-scenes content for social as an afterthought, emerging brands should build from social up. Most sales for small brands come from social media and world-building on platforms, so investing in volume of nimble, repurposable content often outperforms one expensive hero campaign.• Authentic Representation Requires Intentional Casting and Self-Awareness: Brands don't need to check every diversity box—they need to authentically know their consumer and represent them well. Hiring a casting director who understands your specific audience, studying brands doing representation well (like MAC's VivaGlam or Fenty's shade inclusivity), and ensuring consumers see themselves in your imagery creates genuine connection rather than performative gestures.• Visual Storytelling Translates Technical Into Emotional: Communicating formulation sophistication for products that all look like white cream requires strategic choices in lighting, color palette, context, and where assets live. An SPF might use warmer, sunnier lighting within the same setup as other skincare products, while the combination of imagery, copy, and display context tells the complete story.• Budget Constraints Demand Smart Collaboration and Relationships: Working with limited budgets (realistically $10,000+ for quality results) requires finding photographers whose vision aligns with your brand rather than chasing big names. The creative industry runs on personal relationships where artists often offer favorable rates for brands they believe in, knowing the work will benefit their portfolio and lead to future opportunities.• Test Brand Recognition by Removing Product from Imagery: A strong visual brand identity means you'd recognize a Crème de la Mer ad even with the product covered. This test helps brands evaluate whether their visual language—lighting, color, mood, casting—truly communicates their brand DNA consistently across all assets rather than just relying on the product itself.

Find Anderson's photography work and get in touch through:Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/byandersonx/Website: https://by-anderson.com/Agency website: https://www.a-son.agency/

In this 30-minute conversation, Becki pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to write responsibly in beauty media. We talk about the pressures of maintaining editorial independence in a world of brand partnerships, and the blurred lines between transparency, trust, and truth.From navigating terms like “clean” and “non-toxic,” to resisting the urge to oversimplify complex science for the sake of a headline, Becki shares how she treads the gray areas with care. We also dive into how her voice shifts when ghostwriting versus bylining, what it means to write for both experts and everyday readers, and which trends she believes deserve more scrutiny.Takeaways:• Payment Never Equals Praise in Editorial Integrity: While commercial relationships keep media organizations afloat and money does change hands, payment cannot guarantee positive coverage. Journalists and PR teams are getting better at understanding that even long-term relationships guarantee tougher questions and pushing for clarity rather than automatic praise. Trust takes years to build and one compromised article to destroy.• Scientific Training Opens Doors Beyond Accuracy: Getting a diploma in cosmetic science during lockdown allowed Becky to move beyond the "game of whispers" where information passes from formulators to R&D to marketers to PR to journalists. The formal training opened doors to speak directly with suppliers, ingredient experts, and attend industry conferences, enriching her network and allowing her to stand on the shoulders of cosmetic science giants.• Living in the Gray Area Is Where Good Journalism Happens: Science isn't a string of absolutes—most ingredients aren't inherently good or bad, and scientific findings are called theories because there's always more evidence to come. The gray area is uncomfortable because people want clean narratives, but uncertainty helps avoid oversimplifying. The best experts say "these are the answers we have right now" rather than claiming absolute conclusions.• Simplify the Pathway, Not the Conclusion: When communicating science, don't reduce the number of sources or depth of research just because information is more accessible through AI. Instead, simplify how you structure and present information—use the sandwich technique with an exciting benefit, bread of science to contain it, and a juicy takeaway that connects to reader experience. Multiple sources remain essential; AI is just a summarization tool, not a conclusion.• Assume Curiosity, Not Expertise from Readers: Rather than ranking readers by knowledge level and "catering to the lowest," start with the assumption that all readers are curious. This is more universal and hooks both scientists who want to avoid eye-rolling oversimplification and beginners who don't want to feel overwhelmed. Write like you're explaining to a friend, building up progressively rather than segregating content by expertise level.

The beauty industry is buzzing with terms like “lab-grown,” “bioengineered,” and “nature-identical”—but what do these really mean, and how much of it is science versus storytelling? In this episode of Demystifying Cosmetics, we’re joined by David Breslauer, a synthetic biologist and the co-founder and CTO of Bolt Threads, a pioneering biomaterials company known for innovations like lab-grown spider silk and mycelium-based leather.David brings deep expertise in synthetic biology and materials science—and a refreshingly grounded take on how biotechnology is being positioned in beauty and fashion. We explore what’s real, what’s overstated, and what it takes to move from breakthrough to brand adoption without falling into the greenwashing trap.From ingredient sourcing to consumer trust, this conversation peels back the layers of innovation to reveal what biotech can actually deliver—and what still needs to evolve.Takeaways:• Biotech Means Engineering Living Systems, Not Just Natural Extracts: True biotech involves engineering microbes, plant cells, or enzymes to manufacture molecules or materials unavailable or unaffordable from nature at industrial scale. Standard plant extracts, purified crop ingredients, or cold-pressed botanicals being rebranded as "biotech" dilute the term's meaning, even though they may be valuable ingredients in their own right.• The Path to Market Is Longer and More Expensive Than Most Realize: Taking a biotech ingredient from proof of concept to market-ready requires 5-10 years and $10-150 million before reaching breakeven volumes. This includes years of lab R&D, clinical trials for efficacy claims, pilot scale manufacturing, downstream purification, quality control, and three years alone just for global regulatory approval.• Scale-Up and Cost Effectiveness Are the Highest Risk Points: While scientific discovery is challenging, the compounded risk comes after finding a functional molecule. The highest failure rate occurs when trying to achieve cost-effective, routine manufacturing at scale. Many promising ingredients die because they're stuck in non-scalable discovery systems, can't secure investment for scale-up, or never achieve competitive pricing.• Independent Brands Are Essential First Movers: Big CPG brands require extremely compelling reasons (10,000x better performance) to switch global supply chains. Independent beauty brands willing to pay more and take risks serve as crucial first movers, helping biotech companies navigate regulatory filings, build supply chain diversity, and prove market viability before transitioning to larger customers.• GMO Attitudes Are Shifting, But Education Remains Critical: The majority of brands have moved past GMO concerns, especially with certifications like "from GMO, but not GMO" that clarify the ingredient itself contains no genetic modification. However, a few large CPG players are still figuring out their policies as they risk being left behind when the next billion-dollar brand is built on recombinant ingredients like growth factors.