32 episodes
- Andy Budd — reformed designer, coach to design leaders, and advisor at VC fund Seedcamp — joins Nik and Dan for a wide-ranging conversation about whether the design industry is about to boom or bust. Andy argues we hit "peak designer" around 2021–22, and that we're now in an era of Schrödinger's design and nobody has opened the box. The bull case is that AI hands designers the means of production. No more petitioning product managers for backlog space or begging engineering for a prototype — designers can spot the debt, fix it, and ship it. The bear case is that everyone else got there first. Product managers can now design, engineers can now do discovery, and design shrivels down to a five-person team babysitting the design system for a 300-person engineering org.
We talk about taste of course, but Andy points out that everyone thinks they have taste. He also revisits his poker-versus-chess framing — designers study the board and hate mistakes while their peers just want to play every hand. We end on a genuinely unsettled note about the industry itself. How are your house painting skills?
LINKS
The Bull And Bear Case For Digital Design In The Age Of AI https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2026/07/bull-and-bear-case-digital-design-age-ai/
The Six Levels of Adaptive Software
https://www.andybudd.com/archives/2026/06/the-six-levels-of-adaptive-software
AI and the Mangrove Problem
https://andybudd.com/archives/2025/09/ai-and-the-mangrove-problem
The Growth Equation book
https://www.andybudd.com/book/
design + AI Summit — Brighton Dome, 24–25 September 2026
https://designplusaisummit.com/
Andy Budd's blog
https://www.andybudd.com/
Smilla’s Sense of Snow book
https://amzn.to/4znTIPt
Pattern Recognition book
https://amzn.to/4znk9F5 - This week, Dan and Nik make some hot takes on news that has come out this summer.
Everyone's work is starting to look the same: https://marieclairedean.substack.com/p/everyones-work-is-starting-to-look
LLMs reward expertise: https://www.seangoedecke.com/llms-reward-expertise/
A Properties Panel and Annotations, Now in Figma Make: https://www.figma.com/blog/properties-panel-and-annotations-now-in-figma-make/
Unpacking ChatGPT Work: the Agent for a Billion Users: https://www.latent.space/p/unpacking-chatgpt-work
Agent Behavior (agentbehavior.dev)
Measuring the UX of AI: https://measuringu.com/measuring-the-ux-of-ai/
Type designers have created a free font that "poisons" AI: https://www.creativebloq.com/design/fonts-typography/type-designers-have-created-a-free-font-that-poisons-ai
LinkedIn's new anti-slop button is coming to every platform: https://www.fastcompany.com/91584892/linkedins-new-anti-slop-button-is-coming-to-every-platform
How writers are reacting to Substack’s AI transparency tools: https://on.substack.com/p/how-writers-are-reacting-to-substacks - Andrew Hogan and Shane Johnston of Figma join Dan and Nik to unpack Figma's 2026 AI report. The headline is about AI shifting from individual productivity to team dynamics: 41% now say AI meaningfully changes how their teams work together, up from 7% two years ago. Shane and Andrew deliberately interrogate the "10x everybody" narrative: output is measurably up (lines of code, App Store submissions), but outcomes aren't following, because AI is exposing the communication and alignment seams that were always there. Handoffs can still be an issue. Prototypes are trivial to generate but very hard to dissect. And perhaps unsurprisingly, decision-making turns out to be the real bottleneck.
The conversation also covers the blurring of roles (designers shipping fully functional AI-built prototypes jumped from ~10% to 61% in a year; developers doing design work is up sharply) and why developers are now among the loudest voices arguing design matters more. Andrew and Shane reframe role overlap as tax reduction rather than job-stealing — the designer who fixes the visual bug instead of filing the ticket — and make the case for the canvas as shared context, for design systems as the thing "orchestrating relationships" between functions, and for the four shapes of AI adoption (the nascent group has roughly halved to 18%).
LINKS
Figma's 2026 AI Report — blog post
Full report / download
Report microsite
Andrew Hogan on LinkedIn
Andrew Hogan, "AI Fluency Isn't the Finish Line"
Shane Johnston on LinkedIn Training Taste, AI Systems Thinking, LLM Counter Defaults, and special guest Dan Maccarone
28/07/2026 | 55 mins.Everyone in design is yelling the same two words right now: taste and judgment. But how do you get them? David Hoang's "Training Design Senses" does, and this episode starts there: how to train the eye, design dexterity, fluency of aesthetics, and rhetoric, with a detour into what copying from masters means when the copying happens through an AI. Then Christine Zhu on systems thinking for agentic products, which asks PMs to stop shipping features and start gardening: decompose for agent experience, define contracts between the parts, build feedback loops that capture correction signals. Our last bit of news is LLM Counter-Defaults from Nadia Piet and AIxDESIGN, a slider-based tool that exposes the settings your LLM shipped with and writes the instructions to override them.
Our guest is Dan Maccarone, founder and CEO of Charming Robot, who spent a year rebuilding his studio's entire design process around AI after a project went sideways. He walks us through the experience brief (a PRD with a friendlier name), the whiteboard/review/approved branch structure, and what he calls high-speed mediocrity. He also explains why the prototype's 300,000 lines of code are never shipping anywhere, why documentation matters more now rather than less, and why his team still starts with sketching so they're building from their imagination instead of Claude's.
LINKS
"Training design senses"
https://www.proofofconcept.pub/p/training-design-senses
”what systems thinking looks like for PM'ing AI products”
https://open.substack.com/pub/christinezhu/p/grow-systems-build-features?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
LLM Counter-Defaults by Nadia Piet / AIxDESIGN
https://counterdefaults.aixdesign.co/
Thinking in Systems book
https://amzn.to/4wuNA6o
How Buildings Learn book
https://amzn.to/4g2Y99V
"Never mind the prompts, here's the thinking"
https://uxdesign.cc/never-mind-the-prompts-heres-the-thinking-f4af4b92155f
Charming Robot
https://charmingrobot.com
Story in a Bottle podcast
https://storyinabottle.charmingrobot.com/
The Barstool MBA (Audible)
https://amzn.to/4pGRZ3q
Fool's Gold, NYC
https://www.foolsgoldnyc.com/
MHCI Capstone sponsorship
https://hcii.cmu.edu/academics/mhci/capstone- Dan and Nik dig into a trio of OpenAI stories: the launch of GPT 5.6 Sol and its jump to the top of the Design Arena leaderboard, notably by suppressing common AI design anti-patterns (goodbye, purple gradients) and combining known templates with customized outputs — followed by Figma Make's OpenAI integration and what it might signal about the shifting model landscape. They also geek out over Codex Micro, OpenAI's slick new macro keyboard designed by Work Louder, which uses RGB-lit keys to let developers monitor and control multiple coding agents without touching a mouse.
The episode's guest segment features Jason Hong and Sauvik Das, CMU HCII faculty and co-founders of fuguUX, an AI-powered usability auditing tool. Jason and Sauvik explain how frontier language models can now scale subjective design judgment — evaluating concepts like information scent that were previously impossible to codify — and walk through their two offerings: synthetic user testing (with a diverse cast of twenty AI agents built from Census microdata) and automated heuristic audits. The conversation touches on why B2B software remains so dreadful, the testing pyramid, and the long-term vision of continuously self-improving websites.
LINKS
Design Arena
https://www.designarena.ai/
GPT 5.6 Sol topping the design leaderboard
https://notes.designarena.ai/how-openais-sol-finally-learned-design-taste/
Codex Micro
https://openai.com/supply/co-lab/work-louder/
Figma Make + OpenAI integration announcement
https://www.figma.com/blog/gpt-5-6-is-now-available-in-figma-make/
fuguUX
https://www.fuguux.com/
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