A is for Apple: An Encyclopaedia of Food & Drink

Drink is the theme for this episode! Sam explores the (reputedly) perfect beverage to drink while giving birth. Neil chats to Tom and Lydia from Artistraw who make natural cider and perry. And Allie reveals there is a whole lot more to a cappuccino than a frothy top.
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This is the penultimate episode before our Listener’s Choice finale so don’t forget to send us your suggestions for the culinary ‘C’s that we’ve overlooked and tell us why we should cover them!
Sources/Useful Links
Early modern stuffed carrots video (from around 29 mins 10 secs)
Sam’s cameline sauce post on Substack
Caudle
Forme of Cury (1390) also don’t forget to check out Jennie Hood’s Substack, Medieval Food with Jennie
Giving Birth in Eighteenth Century England by Sarah Fox (2022)
Mrs Caudle’s Curtain Lectures by Douglas Jerrold (1866)
A New System of Domestic Cookery by Maria Rundell (1806)
Liquid Nourishment: Potable Foods and Stimulating Drinks edited by C. Anne Wilson (1993)

Cider
Artistraw website
Follow Artistraw on Instagram @artistrawcider
Why is it that some pubs won’t serve ‘snakebite’?
Cider Planet by Claude Jolicoeur (2022)

Cappuccino
Purity and Danger by Mary Douglas (1966)
“Deciphering a Meal” by Mary Douglas, in Implicit Meanings (1975)
Distinction: A Social Critique of the Judgement of Taste by Pierre Bourdieu (1979)
“Toward a Psychosociology of Contemporary Food Consumption” by Roland Barthes, in Food and Culture: A Reader edited by Carole Counihan and Penny Van Esterik
The Rituals of Dinner: The Origins, Evolution, Eccentricities and Meaning of Table Manners by Margaret Visser (1991)
Food Is Culture by Massimo Montanari (2006)
Italian Identity in the Kitchen, or Food and the Nation by Massimo Montanari (2013)
Coffee: A Global History by Jonathan Morris (2018)
Espresso Coffee: The Science of Quality edited by Andrea Illy and Rinantonio Viani (2005)

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Sam Bilton also hosts the award winning Comfortably Hungry Podcast and is the author of First Catch Your Gingerbread, Fool’s Gold: A History of British Saffron The Philosophy of Chocolate and Much Ado About Cooking: Delicious Shakespearean Feasts for Every Occasion (written in collaboration with Shakespeare’s Globe). You can find her on Instagram and Bluesky
Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar, Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper as well as Knead to Know: A History of Baking and

C is for Caraway, Curry & Cinnamon
In this episode of A is for Apple, we turn to aromatics and ask what these ingredients carry with them beyond flavour.
From the binding qualities of caraway in early modern folklore to the layered histories of curry and its place in Britain, and the enduring warmth of cinnamon, we explore how spices move, adapt, and settle. Along the way, we think about trade, migration, memory, and the ways in which taste is shaped over time.
And somewhere along the line… did we get a little carawayed?
What we discuss
Cinnamon
What is the difference between cinnamon and cassia, and does it matter?
Why is cinnamon so strongly associated with comfort and memory?
How has it been used historically, both in cooking and in medicine?
Curry
If one dish tells the story of Britain, is it chicken tikka masala?
Can food ever belong to one place once it starts to travel?
What do curry houses reveal about adaptation and taste?
Is “authenticity” a useful concept, or does it obscure more than it reveals?
We also draw on insights from Allie’s previous conversation with Mallika Basu on A Curious Appetite with Dr Alessandra Pino, her new podcast, particularly around migration, flavour, and the politics of naming.
Caraway
From comfits to cupboards, how has caraway been used in cooking?
Why was it once believed to prevent loss, theft, or even wandering lovers?
What does this tell us about the symbolic life of everyday ingredients?
Useful links amd further reading

Caraway
Anderson, I. (2023). The History and Natural History of Spices: The 5,000 Year Search for Flavour. The History Press.
Brears, P. (2012). Cooking & Dining in Medieval England. Prospect Books.
Davidson, A. (1999). The Oxford Companion to Food. Oxford University Press.
Hieatt, C. B., & Butler, S. (1985). Curye on Inglysch: English culinary manuscripts of the fourteenth century. Oxford University Press.
Mason, L. (1988). Sugar-Plums and Sherbert: The Prehistory of Sweets. Prospect Books.

Curry
Collingham, Lizzie. Curry: A Tale of Cooks and Conquerors. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2006.
Dickson Wright, Clarissa. A History of English Food. London: Random House, 2011.
Glasse, Hannah. The Art of Cookery Made Plain and Easy. 1803.
Huxley, Aldous. Jesting Pilate. 1926.
Panayi, Panikos. Migrant City: A New History of London. 2020.
Panayi, Panikos. Spicing Up Britain. 1995.
Sukhadwala, Sejal. The Philosophy of Curry. 2023.
Empire Podcast – “Inventing Curry: The British Taste for India”

Cinnamon
https://www.britannica.com/plant/cinnamon
How cinnamon is harvested:
https://youtube.com/shorts/4LINdKpRmpM?si=dYt_TS0Ny9KqJQo-
https://youtu.be/fNguphwF_hI?si=1jS0qWsyseRQGVFR

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Things get wet and wild in this episode as the team explore fish and seafood. Allie explores the world of caviar, bumps and all. Sam introduces the gang to cockle bread and Neil asks whether there is any real point to cod?
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Sources/Useful Links
Cockles
North Atlantic Seafood by Alan Davidson (1980)
First Catch Your Peacock: The Classical Guide to Welsh Food by Bobby Freeman (1996)
In Search of Wales by H. V. Morton (1944)
Domestic Life in Wales by S. Minwel Tibbott (2002)
Welsh Fare by S. Minwel Tibbott
Cockle gathering at Penclawdd in the 1930s on YouTube
Remembering the Cockle Women
Marine Stewardship Council information on cockles

Caviar
Inga Saffron, Caviar: The Strange History and Uncertain Future of the World’s Most Coveted Delicacy (2002) –https://archive.org/details/caviarstrangehis00saff
IUCN Red List – Sturgeon (Acipenseridae) species accounts –
https://www.iucnredlist.org
World Sturgeon Conservation Society – https://www.wscs.info
NOAA Fisheries – Sturgeon species overview – https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov
Adam Olearius, The Voyages and Travels of the Ambassadors (1647) –https://archive.org/details/voyagestravellso00olea
Jonas Hanway, An Historical Account of the British Trade over the Caspian Sea (1753) –https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.31214
John Perry, The State of Russia under the Present Czar (1716) –https://archive.org/details/bim_eighteenth-century_the-state-of-russia-und_perry-john_1716
Cavi-Art (official site) – https://caviart.com/
Daniel Pauly et al., “Fishing Down Marine Food Webs,” Science (1998) –https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.279.5352.860
Stanley Tucci eats caviar: https://fb.watch/FA1F4UtvRf/
What is a Caviar Bump?

Cod
English Seafood Cookery by Rick Stein (1988)
Jane Grigson’s Fish Book (1986)
The River Cottage Fish Book by Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall and Nick Fisher (2007)
French Provincial Cookery by Elizabeth David (1960)

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Sam Bilton also hosts the award winning Comfortably Hungry Podcast and is the author of First Catch Your Gingerbread, Fool’s Gold: A History of British Saffron The Philosophy of Chocolate and Much Ado About Cooking: Delicious Shakesperean Feasts for Every Occasion (written in collaboration with Shakespeare’s Globe). You can find her on Instagram and Bluesky

Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar, Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper as well as Knead to Know: A History of Baking and The Philosophy of Pudding with another book in progress. You can find him on Instagram and Bluesky

Dr Allie Pino produces and hosts the Curious Appetite Podcast and the Fear Feasts Podcast with Vanessa Baca. She is also the co-author of A Gothic Cookbook and is currently working on a new book. You can find her on Instagram and Bluesky

Today’s theme is PEOPLE! Allie, Neil and Sam bring some guests with them to this episode (metaphorically speaking). One is renowned for her flamboyancy; another is an avid champion of fruit and veg and the last has a very large bone to pick with one of history’s most renowned cookbook authors. But can you guess who they are?
(Well of course you can because their names are in the title, but indulge us by playing along!)
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Sources/Useful Links
Fanny Cradock
Fear of Fanny - BBC 2006
Keep Calm and Fanny On! By Kevin Geddes
British Food History Podcast Episode
Fanny Cradock with Kevin Geddes - The British Food History Podcast
Gwen Troake and Fanny Cradock (1976)
Fanny Cradock Cooks for Christmas (1975) | BBC

Ann Cook
Professed Cookery by Ann Cook
A Cook’s Perspective byClarissa F. Dillon & Deborah J. Peterson
The Art of Cookery Made Plain & Easy by Hannah Glasse
Book review of A. Cook’s Perspective by Neil on British Food: a History
Neil’s disastrous attempt at cooking Hannah Glasse’s Christmas Pie on Neil Cooks Grigson
Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald, England’s Most Influential Housekeeper by Neil Buttery
Ivan Day’s 22-stone Yorkshire Christmas Pye

Giacomo Castelvetro
The Fruit, Herbs & Vegetables of Italy by Giacomo Castelvetro (1614)
Profitable insructions [sic] for the manuring, sowing, and planting of kitchin gardens Very profitable for the common wealth and greatly for the helpe and comfort of poore people. Gathered by Richard Gardiner of Shrewsberie. (1603)

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Sam Bilton also hosts the award winning Comfortably Hungry Podcast and is the author of First Catch Your Gingerbread, Fool’s Gold: A History of British Saffron The Philosophy of Chocolate and Much Ado About Cooking: Delicious Shakesperean Feasts for Every Occasion (written in collaboration with Shakespeare’s Globe). You can find her on Instagram and Bluesky

Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar, Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper as well as Knead to Know: A History of Baking and The Philosophy of Pudding with another book in progress. You can find him on Instagram and Bluesky

Dr Allie Pino produces and hosts the Curious Appetite Podcast and the Fear Feasts Podcast with Vanessa Baca. She is also the co-author of A Gothic Cookbook and is currently working on a new book. You can find her on Instagram and Bluesky

Sam Bilton Allie Pino and Neil Buttery are back with a brand new season exploring the culinary alphabet. This time it’s the letter ‘C’. In the first episode of this season our team had free reign to explore whatever took their fancy.
Sam opens with carbonado, diving into its rich history and cultural associations. Allie follows with carrots, exploring their meanings, myths, and surprising journeys through food history. Neil brings things to a close with cabinet pudding, a comforting and curious dish that rounds the conversation off rather nicely.
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Sources/Useful Links
Carbonado
Modern Cookery for Private Families - Eliza Acton (1845)
Cooking and Dining in Tudor and Early Stuart England by Peter Brears (2015)
Mots de table, mots de bouche: dictionnaire étymologique et historique du vocabulaire classique de la cuisine et de la gastronomie by Claudine Brécourt-Villars (1996)
Kettner’s Book of the Table - E. S. Dallas (1877)
Gargantua And His Son Pantagruel by Rabelais (1534)

Carrot
Vegetable Gardening the Colonial Williamsburg Way: 18th-Century Methods for Today’s Organic Gardeners - Wesley Greene (2012)
Do carrots help you see in the dark? - Dr Emma Davies BBC Science Focus Magazine (2026)
Step by Step. London: Thornton Butterworth - Churchill, W. S. (1939)
Originally published as a collection of Churchill’s newspaper articles and speeches from the late 1930s, including his commentary on Nazi Germany and the use of reward and punishment, encapsulated in his metaphor of “the carrot and the stick.”
Good Things - Jane Grigson (2006)
The Art of Cookery Made Plain and Easy - Hannah Glasse (1747) Recipe: To Make a Carrot Pudding
An Anonymous Andalusian Cookbook of the 13th Century Translated by Charles Perry et al Recipe: Carrot Paste

Cabinet pudding
Neil’s Cabinet pudding recipe
The Philosophy of Puddings by Neil Buttery (2024)
The Pudding Book by Helen Thomas (1980)
Pride and Pudding by Regula Ysewijn (2015)
Eleanor Fettiplace’s Receipt Book by Hilary Spurling - my Lord Devonshire’s Pudding (1986)
Neil’s Spotted Dick recipe from his blog
Neil’s How to Steam a Pudding post on his blog
Neil on the BBC Travel Show talking about the history of puddings and sugar (UK only)