(Almost) Reckless

A conversation with Amy Smilovic and Jeffrey Saad - Chef, Entrepreneur, Estate Director, and Author. Before Compass, where he and his wife Nadia were among the first six agents in California and now serve as Estate Directors in Beverly Hills, Jeffrey was building restaurants in San Francisco. He opened his first, Sweet Heat, at twenty-four, went on to become Chef/Partner of California's Pasta Pomodoro Italian Restaurants, and broke through nationally in 2009 as the first runner-up on The Next Food Network Star - a run that led to his own web series, Spice Smuggler, and later to United Tastes of America on The Cooking Channel. He's the author of the cookbook Jeffrey Saad's Global Kitchen, the host of The Circle Podcast, and his forthcoming book, The Reduction: How to Cultivate Joy and Build a Life Worth Savoring, arrives in a month.
Amy and Jeff grew up twenty miles apart outside Chicago, married partners who came to America from somewhere else, and built their businesses on the same philosophical scaffolding without ever comparing notes. They get into the personal constitution Jeff wrote at twenty-three and still reads every morning, the difference between first principles, opinions, and tactics, why the burnt edges are what make the steak taste good, and what it actually means to reduce - to distill a life down to the ingredients that matter and refuse the rest. They talk about the trap of storytelling, the gap between incident and reaction, the kind of leadership that refuses to be efficient with people, and what is gained by walking forward instead of looking back. It's a conversation about joy as a discipline rather than a disposition - and about what happens when two people who chose to reduce land at the same table.

A conversation with Checka Propper and Amy Smilovic. Checka is the Head of Television at Color Force, the production company behind The Hunger Games franchise, American Crime Story, and Love Story — the limited series chronicling the relationship between JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy that became the most-watched limited series in FX history, accumulating over 65 million hours streamed in its first season.
Throughout the conversation, Amy and Checka discuss what it actually means to build a career from curiosity rather than a plan — how a kid outside Philadelphia who struggled with learning disabilities found refuge in the patterns of television, and how that eventually became the instinct she uses to decide what stories are worth telling. They get into the adjectives Checka uses to evaluate everything from the shows she develops to the networks she develops them for, the difference between following a gut and being able to articulate why the gut is right, and what it looks like to produce one of the most culturally resonant shows of the year — its controversies included — alongside one of Hollywood's most singular creative forces. And because Amy and Checka's relationship began with a DM about personal style in the middle of a pandemic, when Checka felt like she had lost her sense of self somewhere inside a very successful career, the conversation ends where it started: with the question of who you are when the title gets stripped away, and what it takes to find your way back.

A conversation with Amy Smilovic and Liz Taylor. Liz is Ogilvy’s Global Chief Creative Officer, setting the creative vision for 120+ offices in more than 90 countries, in addition to agency networks DAVID, INGO and Grey. Under her leadership, Ogilvy has become the only agency ever to top both WARC’s Creative 100 and Effective 100 lists, alongside repeat Network of the Year accolades. Her work has also received several Emmy nominations, been featured at the Museum of Modern Art, on Billboard charts, in multiple Super Bowls, and among culture-topping lists like Fast Company’s annual World’s Most Innovative Companies and TIME Magazine’s Best Inventions. Liz is also the first-ever CCO to be top-ranked by Cannes, and the first woman to top CCO lists by The Drum and D&AD, to be named CCO at FCB, and to be appointed Global CCO at both Leo (Burnett) and Ogilvy. Throughout the conversation, Amy and Liz discuss the winding, accidental nature of her rise to the top of one of the world's most competitive industries, what it truly means to lead creative culture at scale, and why the most lasting work always lives at the intersection of commerce, craft, and genuine conviction.

A conversation with Amy Smilovic and Garance Doré. Garance is a New York Times Best-Selling Author, renowned Photographer, and illustrator. In 2007 Garance began shooting street-style photography in Paris with a uniquely creative point of view, marking a shift in the era of highly calculated editorial "street" fashion photography to one characterized by a raw, personal, and unembellished perspective, changing the course of the discipline forever. Known to many as the original fashion blogger, Garance has no doubt had a significant influence on the way street style is captured today. In 2015, Garance released her first book, Love Style Life, a NYT Best-Seller, and a narrative journey through the various creative endeavors of her career, from photography to illustration to authorship. In 2022, Garance co-founded Doré, a French skincare line rooted in modernity, simplicity, and transparency. Throughout the podcast, Amy and Garance discuss the pivotal moments of her childhood, the ups and downs of her career in the volatile industry of fashion, and that which brings her ultimate happiness today.

A conversation with Golnar Khosrowshahi and Amy Smilovic. Golnar is the Founder & CEO of Reservoir Media, an independent music company based in New York City. Founded in 2007 as a family-owned music publisher, Reservoir is the first female-founded and led publicly traded independent music company in the United States and has been twice named Publisher of the Year by The A&R Awards, and Independent Publisher of the Year at the Music Week Awards in 2020 and 2022. Their robust catalog includes historic works from legends like Miles Davis, Joni Mitchell, John Denver, Sheryl Crow, and Snoop Dogg, as well as current award-winning hits by Lady Gaga, Camila Cabello, Bruno Mars, and many more. Reservoir also hosts a roster of active writers and producers including Ali Tamposi, 2 Chainz, and Jamie Hartman, while maintaining a deeply influential position in the category of film music, owning scores by Hans Zimmer and those from The Lion King, Pirates of the Caribbean, The Dark Knight Trilogy, and more. Amy and Golnar discuss her path into the music industry and the origins of her love for the discipline, outlining how Golnar carved her successful niche in a cut-throat business, all the while remaining completely operationally independent.