Back Row with Amy Odell

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Taylor Swift married Travis Kelce at Madison Square Garden — and nobody's seen the photos yet. Will Vogue get them? Will anyone? Amy Odell is joined by veteran celebrity journalist Justin Ravitz (former Executive Editor at Us Weekly and Rolling Stone) to count down 13 burning questions about the wedding of the year — 13, of course, because it's Taylor's lucky number.

From the Dior couture ceremony looks to the guest list chaos (Zadie Smith? Wayne Gretzky? No Kardashians?) to whether this whole thing might end up as a theatrical release, Amy and Justin go through it all.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Introduction

02:50 #13 – What did she get talked out of?

06:23 #12 – What did Travis Kelce wear?

10:52 #11 – How close were they with their guests, really?

22:08 #10 – What was in the guests' NDAs?

25:33 #9 – Who leaked the wedding photos?

28:19 #8 – Were there religious elements? Was Adam Sandler ordained?

30:45 #7 – Did anyone try to slip them a gift?

37:27 #6 – Were there brand or corporate sponsors?

38:59 #5 – What were her cats doing?

40:54 #4 – Whose idea was the TT logo?

42:22 #3 – What celebrities were invited and said no?

44:57 #2 – Who was deliberately not invited?

51:59 #1 – Will the wedding be a theatrical release?

58:47 Final thoughts
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RoseMarie Terenzio and Liz McNeil — authors of ⁠JFK Jr.: An Intimate Oral Biography⁠ — return to the Back Row podcast in honor of Love Story's likely Emmy nominations. Terenzio assisted JFK Jr. at George magazine, and McNeil has covered him at People since the 90s, so they know what the show creators don't.

We cover what we didn't get to last time: Daryl Hannah's bombshell New York Times op-ed, what the show got right and wrong about Carolyn Bessette's distress over the paparazzi, the plane crash, and whether Jack Schlossberg is the next JFK Jr.

Chapters:

00:00 — Intro

04:00 — The actor who played JFK Jr. called RoseMarie

08:30 — Daryl Hannah's bombshell NYT op-ed

14:30 — The wedding: how reporters found out

23:30 — Was Carolyn really depressed and homebound?

28:00 — The plane crash: what actually happened
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Brett Heyman launched Edie Parker as a luxury handbag business. Her acrylic clutches became a hit with Met Gala-going celebrities. Despite her success with accessories, she decided to pivot to a uniquely challenging industry: legal cannabis.

She talks about what she learned working in Gucci PR during the Tom Ford era, why she entered the cannabis business, and the stigma she's still fighting.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Introduction

01:30 From Gucci PR to Founding Edie Parker

07:30 The Kate Hudson Met Gala Bag That Started It All

11:00 Why She Pivoted to Cannabis

13:00 Why You Have to Be Vertically Integrated in Every State

15:00 The Stripes That Are "Too Appealing to Children"

20:30 What Trump's Rescheduling Order Actually Changes

28:00 Celebrity Campaigns: Pat Cleveland, Gabby Windey, and More

35:30 Why No Institutional Investor Will Touch Cannabis

39:30 Did the Cannabis Pivot Scare Off Handbag Customers?
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As the founding editor of beauty magazine Allure, Linda Wells has seen it all, from the dawn of La Mer to the current age of plastic surgery overload. Now the editor of AirMail Look, she's been covering the craziest procedures, from rib-cracking and reshaping to $500k facelifts.

She discusses how plastic surgery has gone completely off the rails — and where this wild trend is going.

CHAPTERS:

01:15 – Beauty Trends of the 1980s

03:45 – The Wildest Trends in 2026

08:15 – The Growing Visibility of Plastic Surgery

15:05 – Why Surgeons Are Hunting for New Procedures

17:30 – The Sport of Celebrity Speculation

20:25 – Facelift Prices Are Up 400%

23:45 – The Risks of an International Operation

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It started with turkey meatballs and ended with an endorsement deal that led the internet to call her "Gwynicide." Gwyneth Paltrow has had quite a slew of viral moments this month.

I sat down with branding expert and sociologist Ana Andjelic — CMO, author of the Sociology of Business newsletter, and host of the Hitmakers podcast — to talk about what this means (if anything) for Brand Gwyneth.

CHAPTERS:

00:00 – Introduction

01:00 – The Turkey Meatballs and the Arugula Meme

05:30 – Inside the Jade Egg Era of Goop

09:30 – The Trae Stephens Interview and the AI Weapons Controversy

18:00 – The 51 Park Israeli Real Estate Ad and the Backlash

21:00 – The Three Pillars of the Gwyneth Brand

24:30 – Is Goop Still Relevant?

26:00 – Why Goop Kitchen Is Struggling in New York

31:00 – Is Gwyneth an Asset or a Liability Now?

34:00 – Can Kinship Ventures Actually Succeed?
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