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    Walking the Portuguese Camino with Her Parents to Honor Her Late Brother with Elise "Sauce" Ott (BPR #361)

    15/06/2026 | 3h 1 mins.
    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by our pal Elise Ott, aka Sauce, who gives us a play by play of her recent hike on Portuguese Camino coastal route along with her parents.
    SOS walks us through doing the Camino as a tribute to her late brother Curtis, who passed away in February of 2025 after years of living with schizoaffective disorder. She shares his story with honesty and humor, including the time he stole a county parks truck in a three-piece suit, drove it across state lines, and complimented the cop who tackled him, and gets into what it's like to love someone whose illness made them impossible to help, why she doesn't know exactly how he died, and what it meant to scatter his ashes along the coast of Portugal with her parents.
    Elise also shares what the Portuguese Camino coastal route is actually like, the food situation (and why it was mas o menos), how it was to hike the trail through a  tour operator, navigating language barriers with limited Spanish, and what it's like to hike 13 days with your parents and come out closer on the other side. 
    We wrap the show with 2026 hiking trends and whether they're actually worth it, debating the classic debate of raccoon-who-knows-your-secrets versus the goose-who-overreacts-to-everything, the triple crown of girly gear, I am very dumb and pulled my hamstring, and we cover a mailbag about wearing contacts on trail.
    Warning: this episode contains candid discussion of mental illness, substance abuse, family trauma, and the death of a loved one.
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    [divider]
    Interview with Elise "SOS" Ott
    Elise's Instagram
    Elise's Website
    Elise's Youtube
    Time stamps & Questions
    00:05:35 - Reminders: Join us for Chaunce's live podcast sendoff, submit your favorite Chaunce moments or a voicemail for Chaunce, calling all CDT hikers - suggest yourself as a guest, sign up for the Trek's newsletter, and listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!
    00:12:30 - Introducing Elise
    00:14:00 - What does a running coach do?
    00:19:01 - How do you handle the social pressure of running on Strava?
    00:23:09 - How did you end up choosing the Portuguese Camino Coastal Route?
    00:26:06 - What are the daily miles, pace, and logistics like on the Camino?
    00:29:04 - What was the food like in Portugal and Spain?
    00:35:05 - What was the cost of using a tour service, and was it worth it?
    00:38:59 - What are the highlights of the towns along the route?
    00:45:00 - Discussion about Curtis and the reason for the hike
    00:46:18 - What is schizoaffective disorder, and how did Curtis's illness develop?
    00:55:51 - What's the story of Curtis stealing the county truck in a three-piece suit?
    01:03:10 - Were rehab stints ever helpful for Curtis?
    01:18:39 - What was it like fearing for your parents' safety?
    01:28:35 - How are your parents doing, and was the hike a positive grieving exercise?
    01:32:13 - What do you know about how Curtis died?
    01:41:12 - What advice do you have for people loving someone with severe mental illness?
    01:45:15 - What were the highlights and best moments of the Camino?
    01:46:53 - How did you navigate language barriers in Portugal and Spain?
    01:48:24 - What are the funniest parent quirks you discovered on the hike?
    01:57:03 - What gear do you recommend for the Camino?
    02:07:15 - What was the funniest thing that happened on the trail?
    02:10:01 - What is it like managing sleep apnea with a CPAP while backpacking?
    02:23:04 - What are your top recovery tips for ultrarunning?
    02:27:54 - Discussion about 2026 hiking trends: sleeping pad inflators and Alpha Direct
    Segments
    Trek Propaganda: 2026 Hiking Gear Trends, And Whether I Think They're Actually Worth It by Livvy Weld
    QOTD: Would you rather have one raccoon know all your secrets and occasionally hint at them or one goose publicly overreact to everything you do?
    Stupid Thing of the Week
    Triple Crown of gear you can find that's girly
    Mail Bag
    5 Star Review
    [divider]
    Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee.
    Sign up for the Trek's newsletter
    Leave us a voicemail!
    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.
    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.
    Advertise on Backpacker Radio
    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.
    Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.
    Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. 
    Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "The Snail" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns
    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, Dakota J, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lloyd Harris, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.
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    The World's Tallest Unclimbed Mountains, Tips for Taking a Sabbatical to Hike, and Kissing vs. Sauces

    11/06/2026 | 49 mins.
    Segments
    The Tallest Unclimbed Mountains
    Trek Propaganda: Roundup Is Being Sprayed in National Forests. Here's What PCT Hikers Should Know by Kelly Floro
    QOTD:  Would you rather give up sauces or kissing?
    Triple Crown of Ways NOT to die
    Mail Bag
    5 Star Review
    [divider]
    Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee.
    Sign up for the Trek's newsletter
    Leave us a voicemail!
    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.
    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.
    Advertise on Backpacker Radio
    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.
    Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.
    Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. 
    Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "The Snail" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, Dakota J, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lloyd Harris, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers
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    Backpacker Radio's Origin Story, Evolution, and Behind the Scenes with Zach and Chaunce (BPR #360)

    08/06/2026 | 3h 41 mins.
    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are bringing you the rare Chaunce and Zach solo pod. 
    In this one, we tell the full origin story of Backpacker Radio, from the unofficial co-host audition at a hiker meetup, to Chaunce showing up at the wrong restaurant on day one, to almost not making it past the early episodes. We get into how our interviewing dynamic has evolved over eight years, the technical disasters of the early days, the team that quietly makes this whole thing work, our all-time favorite guests, the ones we never aired, the dream guests we still haven't landed, and answer a slew of listener questions.
    We wrap the show with a triple crown of worst ways to die, share the news that apparently Roundup is being sprayed in our national forests, opine on whether we'd rather give up sauces or kissing (and debate whether butter is a sauce), and give an overview on how to negotiate a thru-hiking sabbatical from your employer. 
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    [divider]
    Interview with Chaunce
    Time stamps & Questions
    00:06:15 - Reminders: Support Akuna during his recovery, join us for Chaunce's live podcast sendoff, submit your favorite Chaunce moments or a voicemail for Chaunce, apply to be a co-host, check out our new merch, listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!
    00:15:05 - Introducing Chaunce
    00:17:10 - What was Zach's initial idea for the podcast and how you decided you wanted a co-host?
    00:25:42 - What were your first impressions of each other
    00:27:48 - What were your expectations for the podcast's longevity and success?
    00:34:20 - Did you discuss the style of the podcast and interview format you wanted?
    00:39:43 - How has your co-interviewing strategy changed over the years?
    00:59:25 - How are guests chosen for the show?
    01:09:58 - What are some surprising things you've learned about making the podcast?
    01:19:13 - How many interviews or segments have had to be cut?
    01:24:18 - How long did it take to get over saying something dumb on air?
    01:32:46 - How has the other person changed since episode one?
    01:35:49 - What phrases or habits have you picked up from each other?
    01:36:31 - How is the Mile by Mile project going?
    01:45:45 - How have you balanced full-time work with hiking and the podcast?
    01:53:18 - Were there any episodes where you were sick or physically unwell?
    01:59:44 - Discussion about listener & Instagram questions
    02:00:28 - How do you manage a friendship while working together?
    02:02:43 - If you could go back to the beginning, what advice would you give yourselves?
    02:13:27 - Discussion about highest highs and lowest lows from the podcast
    02:20:23 - What are a few all-time favorite guests?
    02:26:32 - Which guest were you most nervous to interview?
    02:28:53 - What were your "I love my job" moments from the show?
    02:31:51 - What will you miss most about interviewing together?
    02:35:51 - Discussion about podcast segments that lived and died
    02:39:23 - What are the remaining dream guests you haven't landed yet?
    02:48:00 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance enhancing or backpacking hack?
    Segments
    Trek Propaganda: Roundup Is Being Sprayed in National Forests. Here's What PCT Hikers Should Know by Kelly Floro
    QOTD:  Would you rather give up sauces or kissing?
    Triple Crown of Ways NOT to die
    Mail Bag
    5 Star Review
    [divider]
    Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee.
    Sign up for the Trek's newsletter
    Leave us a voicemail!
    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.
    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.
    Advertise on Backpacker Radio
    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.
    Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.
    Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. 
    Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "The Snail" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns
    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, Dakota J, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lloyd Harris, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.
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    Long Trail Trivia, the Best Town Food to Hike Out with, REI Flash Shade Review, and the Future of AI

    04/06/2026 | 1h 44 mins.
    Segments
    Long Trail Trivia
    Trek Propaganda: Check out the Trek's Youtube
    Processing
    QOTD:  Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
    Sun Hoodie Review - REI Flash Shade 
    Triple Crown of town food to hike out with
    Mail Bag
    5 Star Review
    [divider]
    Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee.
    Sign up for the Trek's newsletter
    Leave us a voicemail!
    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.
    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.
    Advertise on Backpacker Radio
    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.
    Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.
    Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. 
    Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "The Snail" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, Dakota J, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lloyd Harris, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.
  • Backpacker Radio

    Chaunce VS Jabba: The Final Showdown (BPR #359)

    01/06/2026 | 4h 20 mins.
    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are bringing you the final on-air fight between Jabba and Chaunce. It is mostly awkward and uncomfortable, with- I think- a dash of closure at the end. Will you enjoy it? I don't know. Maybe not. 
    We wrap the show with a question of the day involving button pushing and death, a new sun hoodie review- the REI Flash Shade, the triple crown of food to hike out of town with, we breakdown whether all food can be categorized as a soup, salad, or sandwich, we put out a call for your favorite Chaunce clips, and for your self-nominations as guest co-host of this here podcast. 
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    [divider]
    Interview with Jabba
    Jabba's Instagram
    Time stamps & Questions
    00:07:50 - Reminders: Join us for Chaunce's live podcast sendoff, submit your favorite Chaunce moments or a voicemail for Chaunce, apply to be a co-host, check out our new merch, listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!
    00:18:15 - Jabba, recap your hiking on the Arizona Trail
    00:30:20 - How many trails have you quit?
    00:36:30 - Rehashing when Chaunce's face was broken
    00:44:05 - Describe your first meeting with one another
    00:51:55 - Per pound, who's the stronger backpacker?
    00:58:45 - How has your friendship changed over time?
    01:03:35 - Would Jabba only use a gas station bathroom for a year to get $1 million dollars?
    01:07:00 - Jabba vs. Chaunce arm wrestle
    01:09:14 - What did Jabba think about people coming to Chaunce's defense after the guy stuff episode?
    01:16:30 - Spin the Wheel
    01:20:00 - How long of a hike could you do together?
    01:34:50 - What is the thing you like the most about the other person?
    01:43:40 - What is the thing you dislike most about the other person?
    01:50:45 - Chaunce tries to compliment Jabba
    02:03:00 - When was the last time Jabba's feelings were hurt?
    02:12:10 - Stay Salty Question: What's your hottest take in the world of backpacking?
    Segments
    Trek Propaganda: Check out the Trek's Youtube
    Processing
    QOTD:  Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
    Sun Hoodie Review - REI Flash Shade 
    Triple Crown of town food to hike out with
    Mail Bag
    5 Star Review
    [divider]
    Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee.
    Sign up for the Trek's newsletter
    Leave us a voicemail!
    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.
    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.
    Advertise on Backpacker Radio
    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.
    Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.
    Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. 
    Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "The Snail" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns
    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, Dakota J, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lloyd Harris, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.
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From the Appalachian Trail to the Pacific Crest and everything in between. Backpacker Radio is a show all about the wonderful world that is thru-hiking and long distance backpacking. Co-hosts, Zach "Badger" Davis and Juliana "Chaunce" Chauncey muse on the backpacking life and the latest from the trail every other week. Topics include but are not limited to news, trail culture, interviews, gear, advice, and all you can eat buffets.
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