DSPN - RUGBY

World Cup winning coach Sir Graham Henry joins Martin Devlin on DSPN to postmortem the All Blacks' Bledisloe Cup series sweep over the Wallabies. Uncle Ted breaks down how training intensity has shifted since South Africa, evaluates backline play, and explains why defense will decide the next World Cup.

0:00 Intro & HBO Max
0:44 Graham Henry joins the show
1:57 South African tour learnings
4:50 The modern game has more moving parts
7:04 South Africa — role models for the nation
8:19 Fitness levels — "you've gotta be bloody fit"
11:14 Defense — "our defense has to be bulletproof"
14:34 Rassie's rotation & All Blacks depth
16:37 Compulsory rotation through injuries
21:18 Beauden Barrett & Father Time
24:44 Tamati Williams — gone through hell
28:34 The kicking game — "it's a difficult art"
31:20 Don't forget about the All Blacks
33:32 The biggest challenge is rugby league
37:54 Grassroots & club rugby
42:05 Loose forward depth
49:20 Selection philosophy — pick the best player
52:06 How Graham became an All Blacks selector
54:24 The state of the game — "this is boring"
56:35 Player safety & yellow cards
58:08 Warriors supporter

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UK rugby writer Chris Jones and Australian analyst Brett McKay join Martin Devlin on DSPN for an in-depth breakdown of the Springboks. The panel examines South Africa's terrifying squad depth, their World Cup trajectory, and whether any side in world rugby can challenge their dominance.

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South Africa Siya Kolisi reacts after scoring a try during the All Blacks v South Africa second test match, Rugbys Greatest Rivalry, DHL Stadium, Cape Town, South Africa, Saturday, 29 August 2026. (Photo by Nic Bothma / action press)

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Martin Devlin, John Day, and Mark Watson break down the All Blacks' Bledisloe Cup series sweep over the Wallabies. The panel tackles the stunning 36-7 first-half blitz in Sydney, Damian McKenzie's performance at first five, and what lies ahead for the squad up north.

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All Blacks Timoci Tavatavanawai during the All Blacks v Australia, Bledisloe Cup, international test match, ACCOR Stadium, Sydney, Australia, 17 October 2026. (Photo by James Gourley / Alphapix)
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Tony Johnson joins Martin Devlin after calling Northland's epic NPC semifinal win to break down the All Blacks' Bledisloe Cup performance in Sydney. We look at that dominant first half, the mounting 19-player injury list, and what lies ahead on the Northern Hemisphere tour.

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A night’s sleep and another look at the game have changed the mood. Was that first half in Sydney the clearest picture yet of what these All Blacks can become?

Martin Devlin is joined by former All Black Ant Strachan and Jamie Wall in Sydney to reassess the 43–21 win over the Wallabies and look beyond the frustrating finish.

Ant explains the work behind the attacking fireworks, while Jamie makes the case for celebrating a team that delivered despite major midfield disruptions. Peter Lakai’s form creates a fascinating selection question when Ardie Savea returns, and we hear from Dave Rennie on backing his attacking approach all the way to the World Cup.

Plus, growing depth, the need for a Plan B and why rugby needs more clarity around TMO interventions.

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