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Camilla Ingall
Behind The Design
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  • Behind The Design

    51. From Small Styling Business to Large-Scale Operation | Bowerbird Interiors

    07/10/2026 | 58 mins.
    Bowerbird Interior’s success isn’t just a story about beautiful design. It’s a story about what happens when the business behind the design keeps getting bigger.

    Lauren Lewis, co-founder of Bowerbird Interior, joins Camilla to explore the side of the design industry we rarely see: the people, systems, logistics and commercial decisions behind the finished spaces.

    What started as a property styling business has grown into a much bigger operation spanning residential homes, commercial spaces, build-to-rent and large-scale furnishing projects. But what happens behind the scenes when a creative business reaches that kind of scale?

    Lauren shares what she has learned about building the infrastructure behind the creativity, working alongside her husband Jeff, finding the right people, and knowing when the founder needs to step back and let others take the lead.

    In this episode:
    • How Bowerbird evolved from property styling into a much larger furnishing operation
    • The systems, logistics and procurement required to operate at scale
    • Why creative instinct alone may not be enough to grow a sustainable business
    • How commercial thinking can influence creative decision-making
    • How Lauren and Jeff built complementary roles around their different strengths
    • What separates people who want something to happen from those who make it happen
    • Why delegation becomes harder, but more important, as a business grows
    • Knowing when to step away from the details and focus on higher-value work
    • What can sit behind the success people see from the outside

    There’s often a lot more behind a finished space than meets the eye. For Lauren, growing Bowerbird has meant navigating the tension between creativity, people, systems and the realities of running a much bigger business.

    But as a creative business grows, one question becomes harder to ignore: how do you scale the business without scaling away what made it special in the first place?

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    https://www.instagram.com/bowerbirdinteriors
    https://bowerbirdinteriors.com.au/

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    Chapters
    00:00 - From Property Styling to Bowerbird
    02:15 - The Story Behind Bowerbird’s Growth
    05:40 - What Happens Behind Beautiful Spaces
    09:25 - Scaling a Creative Business
    13:10 - The Systems Behind Property Styling
    17:05 - Procurement, Warehousing and Logistics
    21:30 - Why Creative Businesses Need Commercial Thinking
    25:45 - Building a Business Around Different Strengths
    30:10 - Lauren and Jeff’s Roles at Bowerbird
    34:20 - Building the Right Team and Culture
    38:15 - What Makes a Great Team Member?
    42:05 - Knowing When to Delegate
    46:00 - Letting Go as Your Business Grows
    49:40 - The Reality Behind Business Success
    53:15 - Relationships and Community in Design
    56:30 - What Lauren Would Do Differently
    59:10 - The Future of Bowerbird and Creative Business Growth

    Keywords
    Bowerbird
    Lauren Lewis
    Bowerbird Australia
    Bowerbird furniture
    Bowerbird property styling
    property styling Australia
    furniture hire Australia
    furniture styling
    interior design business
    creative business
    creative entrepreneurship
    creative business growth
    scaling a creative business
    design business growth
    creative business strategy
    business systems for creatives
    creative business systems
    property styling business
    property styling business growth
    interior styling business
    design entrepreneurship
    creative leadership
    business operations
    commercial design
  • Behind The Design

    50. Interior Designers Reveal What Really Goes On Behind The Design

    30/09/2026 | 51 mins.
    What do two successful designers admit when there is no guest to interview and the questions are coming straight back at them?

    Sarah Reid is the host of Her Design Her Story, and in this special episode of Behind the Design, Camilla Ingall and Sarah Reid turn the questions on each other, reflecting on the careers, shows, businesses and lessons that have shaped where they are today.

    As the conversation unfolds, they revisit the moments that challenged their confidence, changed their direction and made them rethink what they actually wanted from their careers. They also share what they have learned from years of working with clients, building businesses and having conversations with people across the design industry.

    Both have taken different paths through the design industry, but there are surprising parallels in what they've learned along the way.

    In this episode:
    How two very different career paths led into interior design and creative business
    Why confidence often comes from taking action rather than waiting to feel ready
    The reality of running a creative business while trying to maintain a life outside of work
    What burnout revealed about boundaries, people-pleasing and choosing the right clients
    Learning when to say no and recognising when something simply isn't the right fit
    The challenge of letting go, delegating and trusting other people
    Why building a business can teach you as much about yourself as it does about business
    What podcasting has taught them about listening, communication and making people feel heard

    At the heart of the conversation is a simple question: what happens when you stop trying to be everything to everyone and start paying attention to what actually works for you?

    It's an honest conversation about the less visible side of design careers and creative businesses, and the lessons that only seem to come with experience.

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    https://www.instagram.com/s_r_and_o/ 
    https://www.herdesignherstory.com/ 

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    Chapters
    00:00 Two Designers Turn the Mic on Each Other
    02:28 Camilla’s Journey Into Interior Design
    04:01 Sarah’s Journey From Architecture to Interiors
    07:30 What Inspired Behind the Design
    09:06 The Reality Behind the Pretty Pictures
    10:00 When Your Career Takes an Unexpected Path
    13:07 What Running a Business Teaches You
    16:17 What Actually Brings You Joy?
    17:25 Building a Business and Making Time for Family
    19:14 Does Confidence Come Before Action?
    21:15 What Really Happens Behind the Scenes
    23:14 Learning When to Say No
    24:40 When Doing Everything Becomes Too Much
    33:06 Learning to Qualify Your Clients
    34:29 Which Opportunities Are Worth Pursuing?
    37:49 How Their Definition of Success Changed
    42:38 What Podcasting Has Taught Them About People
    46:57 What They Want Listeners to Take Away

    Keywords
    interior design podcast
    interior design business
    interior designers
    design business
    interior design Australia
    Australian interior designers
    Behind the Design podcast
    creative business
    design industry
    interior design career
    interior design journey
    starting an interior design business
    running a creative business
    creative entrepreneurship
    design business owner
    interior design career path
    interior design challenges
    interior designer burnout
    imposter syndrome in design
    confidence in business
    creative industry Australia
    women in design
    women in business
    design podcast Australia
    interior design podcast Australia
    podcasting for creatives
    behind the scenes design
    design business lessons
    interior design success
  • Behind The Design

    49. From Granny Flat Scam to Luxury Property Development

    16/09/2026 | 50 mins.
    What happens when the business you're building almost ends before it really begins?

    Phil and Lina Strati, the husband-and-wife team behind L.P StratiCo Builders and Aesthetic Developments, share the real story behind their journey from secure corporate and construction careers to building businesses of their own.

    It wasn't a straight line. After quitting their jobs in the most unexpected way, they spent their early years taking on whatever work they could find, only to become caught in a builders worst nightmare, before their first project had barely started.

    But the conversation goes well beyond business.

    They talk openly about navigating fertility challenges, personal loss, the pressure behind a successful-looking business, and the shift from chasing growth to building something more intentional.

    In this episode:
    — Why they quit their jobs at the worst possible time
    — The scam that nearly ended their business
    — How one difficult project led to six thriving opportunities
    — The unexpected path into insurance and remediation
    — How they competed with 9 figure builders as a small company
    — Balancing stable, commercial work with creative development
    — Building a business as a couple
    — How grief changed Lina’s definition of success

    A conversation about resilience, partnership and what really happens behind a successful building business.

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    Follow Phil and Lina Strati
    https://www.aestheticdevelopments.com.au/about
    https://www.instagram.com/aestheticdevelopments_/
    https://www.instagram.com/lpstratico/
    https://www.lpstratico.com.au/

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    https://www.instagram.com/unfolded_
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    Other resources:
    DHR Season 4 - Award Winning Homes: https://vimeo.com/1088921733/aed056c68e?share=copyFlorence i15 by
    Greenridge Publishing - Issuu: https://issuu.com/greenridgepublishing/docs/florence_i15
    Architecture & Design: https://www.architectureanddesign.com.au/projects/houses/the-fairview-aesthetic-developments

    Chapters
    00:00 - The Risky Decision That Started Their Business
    02:47 - From Corporate Careers to Construction and Design
    06:19 - Why They Quit Their Jobs on Their Honeymoon
    12:42 - The Granny Flat Scam That Nearly Ended Their Business
    16:07 - Discovering the Construction Scam and Starting Over
    20:55 - How One Difficult Project Led to Six More Opportunities
    21:47 - How COVID Changed Their Construction Business
    23:37 - Finding Sustainable Revenue Through Insurance Work
    24:28 - Becoming One of 12 Builders on a Major Insurance Panel
    25:21 - Finding a Niche in Complex Insurance Claims
    30:33 - Returning to Luxury Property Development
    31:44 - The Fairview Project and Their First Major Development
    32:23 - Winning a Master Builders Award
    33:37 - Building a Brand Through Design and Storytelling
    35:04 - Grief, Mental Health, and Redefining Success

    Keywords
    building business Australia
    construction business Australia
    construction business owners
    builder business
    building company Australia
    property development Australia
    luxury home builder
    construction entrepreneurship
    starting a construction business
    building business journey
    construction business growth
    property development
    granny flat builder
    insurance construction
    insurance remediation
    business setbacks
    business resilience
    husband and wife business
    family business
    construction industry Australia
    luxury property development
    building industry Australia
    entrepreneurship Australia
  • Behind The Design

    48. A Builder’s Guide to Luxury, Design & Construction With Jakin Luxury Living

    02/09/2026 | 54 mins.
    What actually makes a home luxurious? According to luxury builder James from Jakin Luxury Living, it has far less to do with expensive finishes and far more to do with how a home performs, feels and supports the way you live.

    In this episode of Behind the Design, I sit down with James, founder of Jakin Luxury Living, to unpack what really goes into building high-end residential homes and why the best projects are about so much more than beautiful finishes.

    We explore how the definition of luxury is changing. From home automation and high-performance glazing to saunas, ice baths, gyms and dedicated wellness spaces, today's luxury homes are increasingly designed around health, comfort, technology and the way families actually live.

    And beyond construction, James opens up about business growth, delegation, burnout and finding the balance between working in the business and working on it.

    In this episode, we also discuss:
    • What luxury really means beyond expensive finishes
    • Why a luxury home needs to perform, not just look beautiful
    • Why bigger isn't always better in business
    • How builders and designers can collaborate more effectively
    • Why communication can make or break a construction project
    • The importance of choosing the right trades and site manager
    • What to look for when comparing builders and building quotes
    • The growing importance of insulation and glazing
    • How James approaches forecasting, budgeting and project programming
    • Managing burnout in the construction and creative industries
    • Knowing when to delegate and stay in your lane
    • Why the story behind a finished project can be more interesting than the polished result

    If you're building, renovating or designing a luxury home, this conversation offers a behind-the-scenes look at the decisions, relationships and details that can ultimately determine whether a project simply looks impressive or genuinely feels exceptional.

    Follow Behind the Design for more conversations with the people shaping the architecture, interior design, construction and creative industries.

    Follow James Watkin and Jakin Luxury Living
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    https://www.instagram.com/jakin_luxury_living/
    https://www.instagram.com/james_r_watkin/

    Follow Unfolded:
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    00:00 - What Really Makes a Luxury Home?
    01:45 - Inside Luxury Home Building
    03:15 - From Carpenter to Luxury Builder
    04:33 - Why Bigger Isn't Always Better
    13:06 - The Problem With Micromanaging
    15:43 - Builder & Designer Collaboration
    18:33 - Why Communication Makes or Breaks a Build
    27:25 - What Does Luxury Really Mean?
    30:51 - The Rise of Wellness Spaces at Home
    33:48 - The Future of Luxury Home Design
    35:07 - 3 Things to Look for in a Builder
    38:26 - Why the Cheapest Quote Can Cost More
    49:48 - Burnout in the Building & Creative Industries

    Keywords
    luxury home builder
    luxury home building
    luxury homes
    luxury residential construction
    building a luxury home
    luxury home design
    luxury home construction
    high end home builder
    custom home builder
    luxury residential builder
    choosing a builder
    how to choose a builder
    builder and designer collaboration
    luxury home trends
    home automation
    wellness rooms
    home wellness spaces
    sauna in luxury home
    luxury home features
    luxury home renovation
    custom home construction
    residential construction
    building a custom home
    luxury property development
    high end residential construction
  • Behind The Design

    47. Why Lighting Matters More Than You Think | Objects for Thought

    19/08/2026 | 1h 22 mins.
    Lighting is often one of the last things considered in a project, but it can completely change how we experience a space, from the way materials and colours are perceived to how the room actually feels.

    In this episode of Behind the Design, I sit down with Jay and CJ, founders of Objects for Thought, to explore the thinking, process and business decisions behind their contemporary lighting brand.

    This is a conversation about much more than beautiful light fittings. Jay and CJ share how their very different backgrounds in design, art, finance and electrical work eventually led them to build a lighting company, and why they deliberately chose to focus on doing one thing exceptionally well.

    We talk about why lighting can make or break an interior, what happens when beautiful finishes are paired with poor-quality lighting, and the technical details that designers and homeowners often don't see.

    And most importantly, Jay and CJ share what they've learned about building a creative business without letting ego drive every decision.

    In this episode:
    • How Objects for Thought began and how Jay and CJ found their way into lighting• Why constructive criticism is central to their creative partnership
    • How they divide the business across Melbourne and Brisbane
    • Why good lighting is about more than aesthetics
    • How lighting quality affects colour, materials and finishes
    • What electricians and trades bring to the design process
    • Why Objects for Thought deliberately says no to some custom work
    • How direct relationships with designers create a valuable feedback loop
    • Why solving problems well can strengthen long-term client relationships
    • The importance of patience when building a product-based design business

    For architects, interior designers, builders and anyone interested in how thoughtful design actually comes together, this episode offers a look behind the finished product and into the decisions that make it work.

    Follow Behind the Design for more conversations with the people, businesses and creatives shaping the design industry.

    Follow Jay, CJ and Object for Thought
    https://www.of-t.com/about
    https://www.instagram.com/objectsforthought/
    https://www.instagram.com/jay_jermyn/
    https://www.instagram.com/cjand/

    Follow Unfolded:
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About Behind The Design
Behind the Design is a podcast that brings you closer to the projects, people, and untold stories behind the Pinterest saves you’ve been obsessing over for years. Hosted by Camilla Ingall, interior designer and founder of Unfolded, each episode goes beyond the finished photos to unpack how great design actually comes to life through honest conversations with designers, architects, stylists, builders, and creatives. If you care about thoughtful design and want a deeper understanding of what really goes on behind the scenes, you’re in the right place.
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