Exvangelical

We're back with an interview featuring Katy Scoggin, director of the documentary Flood. The documentary is available on the PBS YouTube channel until 10/13/26 at this link: https://youtu.be/Zm8AhHLTbuI?is=qoqQSvDA_KJ2zAgx

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00:00 Meet Katy Scoggin
00:56 Growing Up Cru
02:30 Church Hopping Teens
03:33 Creationism In School
04:49 Media Rules At Home
08:31 Family Videos And Photos
09:50 Private Faith And Doubt
12:56 Art As An Outlet
14:50 Human Evolution Breakthrough
20:53 Why Make Flood
23:07 Calling Dad On Tape
27:15 Filming Choices And Distance
31:44 Adult Child Dynamics
33:22 Filming Dad in the Car
35:42 The Hike
40:50 Truth and Rigid Belief
47:59 Dad as Family Nexus
54:43 No Contact and Boundaries
58:06 Next Projects and Change
01:01:59 Where to Watch Flood
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In this episode, I speak with Amar D. Peterman, author of the new book Becoming Neighbors: The Common Good Made Local.

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00:00 Meet Amar Peterman
01:05 Growing Up Between Traditions
02:22 Megachurch Formation And Tensions
04:36 Moody Bible Institute Culture Shock
07:35 Finding A Mentor At Moody
11:19 Princeton Seminary New Frameworks
18:17 Evangelical History And PhD Questions
22:54 Stumbling Into Interfaith Work
32:58 Turning To Becoming Neighbors
34:29 The Table And Local Common Good
36:46 Take a Seat at the Table
37:42 Desire and Non-Utilitarian Love
39:08 Pluralism Without Debate
40:10 Common Good Beyond Majority Rule
40:35 From Politics to Knowing Neighbors
43:14 Serve and Decenter Yourself
46:05 Practices for Long Haul Love
48:31 Learning From Deconstruction
49:44 Prophetic Voices Outside Church
54:23 Navigating Evangelical Pushback
57:49 Pronouns and Staying Open
01:01:13 Lightning Round for Authors
01:08:34 Wrap Up and Where to Follow
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This week I'm talking to B.K. O'Connor, author of Eve: A Novel.

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00:00 Housekeeping Updates
01:00 Show Expansion Plans
02:19 Meet BK O'Connor
03:09 Growing Up Multi Faith
04:58 Losing Faith Through Milton
06:00 Eve Across Traditions
09:44 Quest for Truth
10:42 Why Write Eve
15:04 Eve as Divine Feminine
20:00 Chalice Versus Blade
24:46 Gods Beyond Eden
28:37 Rewriting Sacred Stories
34:02 Reclaiming Sacred Texts
36:02 Mary Magdalene and Asherah
39:24 Eve Against Patriarchy
41:27 Motherhood and Monogamy
43:43 Rip Up the Script
47:06 Lilith Versus Eve
51:37 Next Myth Retellings
55:25 Lightning Round Books
59:55 Teaching Lifelong Reading
01:02:17 Final Plugs and Farewell
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I’ve got a wide-ranging interview with Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg to share with you today. It’s been a few years since I spoke with her, and the geopolitical landscape has changed considerably in that time. In the first half of the conversation, we talk about the ongoing war and genocide in Gaza, and broadly about how Jewish communities in the US have responded. We also talk touch on Iran, as well as how the revelations of the Epstein Files and how to ensure that antisemitism doesn’t creep into our reactions to these stories coming to light. We also talk about how certain terms and language may no longer be adequate and the challenges of speaking on these hot-button issues at all, online or elsewhere.

In the second half, we talk about Rabbi Danya’s work at her online publication, Life is a Sacred Text, the concept of moral injury, and how she works with people of differing beliefs through her work. Rabbi Danya speaks with compassion, care, nuance, and solidarity and I hope that this conversation is received in that spirit.

Note: I made a newbie mistake and my audio recorded from the wrong mic - I did the best I could to clean it up!

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Today I'm chatting with Jenny Booth Potter, a return guest and resident of the Minneapolis-St. Paul area.Jenny had a video go viral back on 2/9/26, and I wanted to hear from her about how things are still going. That video is here: https://www.instagram.com/p/DUjp59AjLlb/?hl=enThis interview was recorded & published on 2/27/26, and lightly edited in Descript.
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00:00 Intro and Guest Return
01:06 Setting the Minneapolis Context
02:23 Living on Edge in Twin Cities
04:44 Community Watch and Solidarity
09:53 2020 Uprising to Today
12:40 Why the Footage Disappeared
16:37 Covert Tactics and Deception
19:49 Ongoing Trauma and Material Needs
25:20 What Viewers Can Do
38:22 Proactive Care Over Reaction
42:12 Wrap Up and Resources
44:04 Final Reflections and Hope
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