Outside of Sunday

In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I reflect on Part 2 of my recent conversation with Kristen from Defend Young Minds, unpacking the things that lingered with us afterwards. We talk honestly about the growing use of AI, the question of whether our kids’ faces belong on public social media, and how much technology is actually helpful in family life.We also spend time discussing shame, guilt, and godly sorrow — why shame can fuel secrecy and addiction, and how, as parents, we can respond with patience, self-control, and grace even when we get it wrong. With personal stories, practical reflections, and a biblical lens, this episode is an invitation to be intentional, hopeful, and wise as we raise children in a rapidly changing digital world.Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.0:00 - Coming up0:53 – Welcome and initial reactions to part 21:15 – My initial reaction: surprised predators are using AI2:34 – Should we have our kids’ faces on public social media?5:45 – Shame and guilt fueling addiction6:16 – Colour filters and blue light8:25 – Is shame ever appropriate?9:18 – We want our kids to experience godly sorrow10:15 – We don’t need to stay in shame or guilt11:13 – Times our children have confessed wrongdoing14:53 – If you have reacted with anger and shaming, with God’s help you can walk in patience and self-control20:32 – We can curate the level of technology in our homes26:20 – TV show stimulation now vs then28:00 – Low-tech options for family lifeSupport the showOutside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.

Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.In Part 2 of our conversation with Kristen from Defend Young Minds, we dive deeper into the mental health harms of pornography and what addiction can look like in young people. Kristen shares practical, hope-filled guidance for parents—what to do if your child has already been exposed, how shame and secrecy keep kids trapped, and why today’s devices and AI-driven platforms have created new dangers like sextortion and predatory behaviour online.We also talk about our responsibility before God, whether porn-proofing is just a “Christian issue,” and how Kristen lives out her faith beyond Sunday. This episode is honest, grounding, and full of wisdom for anyone wanting to protect and disciple the next generation in a digital world.Website/Books: www.defendyoungminds.com/books Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DefendYM/ Instagram: @defendyoungminds X: @defendYM LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/defend-young-minds0:00 - Previously0:48 - The mental heath harms of Pornography and addiction2:41 - "Kids hire p*rnography to do jobs for them"5:52 – What to do when your child has already been exposed or become addicted to pornography12:09 – Shame and guilt leads to secrecy13:12 – Kristen’s new appreciation for the dangers of devices (sextortion & predators using AI)20:17 – Our responsibility before God21:22 – Is porn-proofing our children just a Christian issue?30:12 – How does Kristen live her faith outside of Sunday?Support the showOutside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.

In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I unpack some of the big themes raised in Kristen’s conversation about protecting our kids in a world soaked in technology. We talk openly about our own first exposures to pornography, why it’s no longer just an “adult issue,” and how the internet has become the biggest gateway for children today.We dig into practical questions every parent wrestles with - sleepovers, screens, first mention, and whether we want our kids learning from us or learning from Google. We also talk about what the Bible actually says about sex, how God designed it to be good, and how pornography distorts that design in really destructive ways.This episode might feel a little too honest at times… but my prayer is that it gives you courage to have the hard conversations, wisdom to build real connection with your children, and confidence to walk with Jesus in the messy, modern world we’re navigating together.Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 - Coming up0:51 - Welcome and initial reactions to Kristen’s episode2:01 - How I first found out about Good Pictures Bad Pictures5:30 - “Pornography used to be an ‘adult’ issue - it’s not anymore”7:27 - The only reason pornography has become an issue for children: technology8:41 - Is technology and the internet bad? (A tool, not safe)10:11 - We can do everything right as parents - children still need to be able to defend themselves11:41 - My first exposure to pornography13:52 - Laura’s decision not to let her children go to sleepovers15:56 - Laura’s first exposure to pornography17:51 - Do we tell our children, or do we let Google?18:58 - The importance of having a good relationship with our children19:18 - The power of first mention20:22 - Having “the talk” with my daughter23:46 - Sex is good28:31 - Reflecting on Forrest Frank’s experience with pornography30:39 - We shouldn’t be learning off a screen - we should learn together32:03 - The Bible promotes good sex33:44 - Pornography is not good38:09 - What to do if you’re in a relationship and are tempted50:07 - Final thoughts on pornography: it is regressiveSupport the showOutside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.

Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.In this week’s episode of Outside of Sunday, I sit down with Kristen Jenson from Defend Young Minds - a leading voice in protecting children from the harms of pornography.Kristen shares how a heartbreaking story of sibling abuse first moved her to create the book Good Pictures Bad Pictures, and we talk honestly about why equipping our kids is one of the most loving things we can do as parents.We unpack why pornography is linked to sexual abuse, how “porn-proofing” actually works, and why starting these conversations early makes such a difference. I also share my own experience with the book and the impact it’s had in our home.From understanding the difference between art and pornography, to knowing what age to begin the conversation, this episode is practical, hope-filled, and deeply needed for every parent navigating the digital world.Website/Books: www.defendyoungminds.com/books Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DefendYM/ Instagram: @defendyoungminds X: @defendYM LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/defend-young-minds0:00 – Coming up0:51 – Introducing Kristen from Defend Young Minds1:49 – What does Defend Young Minds do?3:13 – How Kristen first decided to create a book to educate children on pornography3:36 – Heartbreaking story of sibling abuse9:27 – Christa’s experience with the ‘Good Pictures Bad Pictures’ book11:43 – Porn linked to sexual abuse14:00 – Porn proofing keeps children safe from sexual abuse18:10 – What does the book look like?20:31 – The difference between art and pornography22:13 – What is the right age to start talking to your children about pornography?29:16 – The harms of pornographySupport the showOutside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.

In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I unpack some of the themes raised in Charlotte’s testimony - from identity and idols to sanctification and the beauty of a life anchored in Jesus.We share how subtle idols can creep into our hearts, and look at the human condition through the lens of the Israelites, the temptation to put other things before God, and the danger of a “Jesus plus” gospel.Laura and I also speak about the different stages of the Christian walk, extending grace to those with “messy” testimonies while challenging believers to examine what - or who - sits on the throne of their hearts. We wrap up with our personal challenges for the week!Click here to check out the article mentioned in this episode. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.Timecodes:0:00 – Coming up0:40 – Welcome & recap on Charlotte’s episode1:50 – Laura’s initial thoughts3:06 – Having everything you could ever want, but still having Jesus4:50 – Would I rather lose my husband and be right with God?5:48 – Who is the anchor for our souls?8:50 – The human condition reflected in the Israelites11:33 – Having no other gods before the one true God16:10 – What are we placing before God & how do we put things back in their proper place?20:03 – Jesus plus anything else is a false gospel22:22 – We are all in different stages of our walk with the Lord and sanctification23:43 – For the judgmental Christians of those with “messy” testimonies25:55 – Laura’s challenge26:55 – Christa’s challengeSupport the showOutside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.