
Christmas Joy and Gladness
15/12/2024 | 36 mins.
In their finalĀ Fire and LightĀ conversation, Tessa and Dave celebrateĀ the Twelfth Day of Christmas, orĀ Feast of the Epiphany. Take a break from commercialized Christmas,Ā latch onto a star, and linger in Bethlehem as the violent empire goes back to business.Ā Celebrate wise women and men who still follow stars.

The Seed and the Space That Changed You
31/7/2024 | 32 mins.
What is the most important transitional moment in your life? Or are there several? Tessa and Dave look back on their early years in Sedona, Arizona. There they discovered an earthy mysticism of gardening, reading, and moonrises that kindled a flame of wonder and sowed the seeds of contemplation that transformed their lives. They encourage you to reflect on the moment and the place that set your life on a new course.

The Desert Experience
01/6/2024 | 31 mins.
What comes to mind when you think of the desert? Does it sound beautiful? Ominous? Both? Find out how "desert rats," from author Edward Abbey to artist Georgia O'Keeffe, express the wonder and solace they find in desert landscapes. Learn how indigenous desert dwellers describe their homelands.Ā For some souls, the desert is the ideal place to listen for God. And what do we mean by an "inner desert"? We conclude this conversation with a meditation on the Sonoran Desert at dawn.

Joy As Resistance
01/5/2024 | 35 mins.
Is your life joyful? Do you think everyone has a right to joy? How do we keep joy alive in the midst of so much sorrow in the world? Can we practice it? And what do we mean by joy as resistance? Dave and Tessa grapple with these questions and more in our latest podcast.

Return to the Wild
01/3/2024 | 29 mins.
Is wilderness important in our lives? Tessa and Dave describe a recent trip to Death Valley and reflect on what struck them most in that vast, wild, empty landscape. They discuss the āpractice of the wildā and the joy of encountering our liberating smallness in communion with ancient stone and starlit nights. (Good news: we are upgrading our recording equipment this month. Expect improved sound quality in our April podcast.)



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