Helicopter Training Podcast

This accident review goes beyond the probable cause to connect the facts with practical training and safety resources that can help prevent similar accidents. Using photos and video from the accident investigation, along with graphics and animations to help paint the picture, we take a deeper look at the issues and the lessons we can all learn from.Topics include:• Pilot and aircraft background• Weather and performance considerations• ADS-B flight track analysis• USHST helicopter accident statistics• Reference to Robinson Safety Notices • Distraction and pilot priorities• Energy management• Load factor and reduced lift• Use of aft cyclic with Low RPM • Practical lessons & take-aways
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Timestamps:
00:00 START01:27 Introduction to the accident01:45 Pilot details02:41 Robinson Safety Notice SN-3403:44 Aircraft details04:45 Estimated gross weight and performance05:00 Weather details06:02 Purpose of flight06:39 USHST helicopter accident statistics06:54 Robinson Safety Notice SN-3407:53 Accident sequence08:39 ADS-B flight track09:30 NTSB Class 4 explanation09:50 Accident findings10:09 Probable cause10:39 Lessons learned11:02 Distraction11:27 Robinson Safety Notice SN-3411:50 Pilot priorities12:09 Energy management13:16 Load factor and reduced lift13:59 Exceeding engine power available14:40 Low rotor RPM15:05 Robinson Safety Notice SN-1015:30 The power of aft cyclic16:08 Low RPM with no aft cyclic16:40 How SN-10 matches the final seconds of the accident17:40 Summary and key takeaways17:53 OUTRO
Show Links:
NTSB Final Report CEN26LA168 - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-CEN26LA168
NTSB Investigation Classification - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-Classification
USHST 2017 Accident Study - https://tinyurl.com/USHST-2013-Study
R44 Low RPM Incident Video - https://youtu.be/fe2CN0SIwTk
Dangerous Student Errors Playlist - ⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ8xtPILNIljCuCGUKfDQyf2kaQuKFOoC⁠
Robinson Safety Notices & POH - ⁠https://tinyurl.com/RHC-SNs⁠
Found On Preflight Safety Initiate - ⁠https://foundonpreflight.com/⁠
Book a Discovery Flight - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Disco⁠⁠⁠⁠
Recommended Books - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Books⁠⁠⁠⁠
Essential Pilot Supplies - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Supplies⁠⁠⁠⁠
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The focus of this episode is my FAA Safety Team webinar on High Density Altitude Helicopter Operations, originally presented live for the Helicopter Pilot Study Group (https://discord.gg/ZQqZmp3gfB).
For this video version, I've included additional graphics and video clips to help illustrate some of the concepts.
Topics include preflight planning and performance, dust devils, autorotations, off-airport operations, exhaust fire risks, brownout awareness, cooldown procedures and more!
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Timestamps:
00:00 START
03:24 Rotorcraft Collective
03:58 Members-only videos
06:27 Introduction to Study Group
10:43 Preflight planning
28:31 R44 starting tips
36:04 Dust devils NTSB safety alert
39:50 R44 overspeed scenario
43:36 R44 flight considerations
45:00 Autorotations
57:27 Off airports
1:04:35 Exhaust fire risk
1:06:30 Brownouts
1:09:36 Governor off & low RPM
1:11:20 Low -G recovery training
1:13:13 Cooldown & postflight
1:15:00 Questions and discussion
1:42:25 Rebekah's listener feedback

Show Links:
Dangerous Student Errors Playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ8xtPILNIljCuCGUKfDQyf2kaQuKFOoC
Low-G Recovery Flight Training - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ8SAnwxD6I&t=546s
Follow Student Pilot from Day 1 to Checkride - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ8xtPILNIlijS0y2OG100r5D1nZcYbNM
SFAR 73 Changes Video - https://youtu.be/i2CT4P76Cqo?si=G_SJ89eCrNpLNqgp
Helicopter Training Flight #31 Pinnacles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5wubZTE7sg
Helicopter Pilot Study Group - https://discord.gg/ZQqZmp3gfB
Rotorcraft Collective Videos - https://bit.ly/ushst025
Robinson Safety Notices & POH - https://tinyurl.com/RHC-SNs
Found On Preflight Safety Initiate - https://foundonpreflight.com/
Ultimate R22 Preflight Guide - https://tinyurl.com/R22-Preflight-Guide
Smoke Forecast - https://www.weather.gov/fire/
VAI Land & Live! - https://verticalavi.org/safety/vai-land-live-program/
CDC Aircrew Increased Cancer Risks - https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/aviation/prevention/aircrew-cancer.html
NTSB Safety Alert - Dust Devils - https://www.ntsb.gov/Advocacy/safety-alerts/Pages/SA-088.aspx
ATSB R44 Grass Fire - https://www.atsb.gov.au/occurrence-briefs/ab-2022-004
Instagram @claywebster_heli - https://www.instagram.com/p/DATYlx-pX3u/
Military Brownout Mishap Assessment - https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/AD1123124.pdf
Tower Tech Mobile ATC Towers - http://www.twrtech.com/
911 Tactical Medicine Brownout Video - https://youtu.be/5yanHiNMm7s?si=rzR5A1qkMzfvVSNM
Rebekah’s Happy Warriors YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@happywarriors777
Book a Discovery Flight - ⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Disco⁠⁠⁠
Recommended Books - ⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Books⁠⁠⁠
Essential Pilot Supplies - ⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Supplies⁠⁠⁠
Helicopter Online Ground School (H.O.G.S.) 10% Discount use “HTV10” at Checkout - ⁠⁠⁠http://tinyurl.com/HOGSDiscount⁠⁠

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This is the final part in a 3-part series where I join Max Trescott on The Rotary Wing Show Podcast to discuss some of the dangerous student errors in helicopter training and how instructors can prevent mistakes from becoming accidents. Check out part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STOPdnUg4zQ and part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2d-dciQFTo if you missed those.
This episode covers more maneuver-specific guidance and accident reviews:
Autorotations
Simulated Engine Failures
Off-Airport Operations
For this video version, I’ve added graphics and short clips to make the discussion clearer for visual learners. I also reference recent training accidents to highlight why these techniques are so important.

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Timestamps:
00:00 START
00:31 Episode 4 - Dangerous Student Errors Part 2
01:01 Episode 3 - Dangerous Student Errors Part 1
01:44 Episode 2 - How to Hover a Helicopter
02:10 Episode 1 - How to Become a Helicopter Pilot
02:42 Flights school catch-up
04:16 Robinson service letter updates
05:53 Rotorcraft Collective
06:07 HTV members only R66 accident video
06:22 Supporter thanks & how to support the show
07:05 Found On Preflight
08:22 Part 3 of Dangerous Student Errors with Max Trescott
10:59 Autorotations
19:10 Autorotation entry
28:55 Autorotation glide
38:37 Autorotation accidents
42:38 Autorotation flare
51:01 PAVE brief
52:57 Simulated Engine Failures
1:00:27 Off-Airport Operations
1:10:01 Off-airport accident
1:13:30 Send your feedback
1:13:53 Next Episode - Autorotations
1:14:15 Found On Preflight
1:14:23 Outro

Show Links:
Episode 1 - How to Become a Helicopter Pilot ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR1NJ_OmLnE&list=PLJ8xtPILNIlhFk4nkt8bmgansopKNlITS⁠
Episode 2 - How to Hover a Helicopter ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kre64Yyuop0&list=PLJ8xtPILNIlhFk4nkt8bmgansopKNlITS⁠
Episode 3 - Dangerous Student Errors Part 1 ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STOPdnUg4zQ&list=PLJ8xtPILNIlhFk4nkt8bmgansopKNlITS⁠
Episode 4 - Dangerous Student Errors Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2d-dciQFTo&list=PLJ8xtPILNIlhFk4nkt8bmgansopKNlITS
Robinson Safety Notice Update Video - ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIptsjOjy8Y⁠
Rotorcraft Collective - ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/ushst025⁠⁠
Rotary Wing Show Podcast - ⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/RWS-EP119⁠⁠
Aviation News Talk Podcast - ⁠⁠https://aviationnewstalk.com⁠⁠
NTSB News Talk - ⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-News-Talk⁠⁠
UAV News Talk - ⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/UAV-news-talk⁠⁠
Max’s Garmin Books - ⁠⁠https://g1000book.com⁠⁠
Robinson Safety Notices & Service Letters - ⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/RHC-SNs⁠⁠
FAA AC 61-140 Autorotation Training - https://tinyurl.com/AC-61-140
Autorotation Accident - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-CEN22LA402
Off Airport Low RPM Accident - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-WPR23LA147
Found On Preflight - https://foundonpreflight.com/
Ultimate R22 Preflight Guide - https://tinyurl.com/R22-Preflight-Guide
Hover Auto Accident - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-WPR23LA043
Book a Discovery Flight - ⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Disco⁠⁠
Recommended Books - ⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Books⁠⁠
Essential Pilot Supplies - ⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Supplies⁠⁠
Helicopter Online Ground School (H.O.G.S.) 10% Discount use “HTV10” at Checkout - ⁠⁠http://tinyurl.com/HOGSDiscount⁠

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This is the second in a 3-part series where I join Max Trescott on The Rotary Wing Show Podcast to discuss some of the dangerous student errors in helicopter training and how instructors can prevent mistakes from becoming accidents.
Check out part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STOPdnUg4zQ&list=PLJ8xtPILNIlhFk4nkt8bmgansopKNlITS if you missed it.This episode covers more maneuver-specific guidance and accident reviews:• Quick Stops / Rapid Decelerations• Vortex Ring State (VRS)• Hover Autos
For this video version, I’ve added graphics and short clips to make the discussion clearer for visual learners. I also reference recent training accidents to highlight why these techniques are so important.

Prefer watching? See if your podcast player has video or watch on YouTube:⁠⁠ ⁠tinyurl.com/HTP-Video-Podcast⁠⁠⁠

Send us feedback and questions:⁠⁠ ⁠HelicopterTrainingPodcast.com/Contact⁠⁠
Timestamps:
00:00 START
00:31 Episode 3 - Dangerous Student Errors Part 1
01:12 Episode 2 - How to Hover a Helicopter
01:33 Episode 1 - How to Become a Helicopter Pilot
02:01 Flights school catch-up
02:43 Rotorcraft Collective
03:01 COCC Aviation Club
03:44 Robinson Safety Notice Update Video
04:18 Feedback from David
06:02 Supporting the show
07:02 Part 2 of Dangerous Student Errors with Max Trescott
09:03 Rapid Decelerations / Quick Stop
24:45 Rapid Decelerations / Quick Stop Accidents
28:26 Vortex Ring State (VRS)
50:02 Vortex Ring State (VRS) Accident
53:44 Hover autos
1:04:00 Hover auto accident
1:17:07 Wrap up with Max
1:13:36 Send your feedback
1:14:06 Next Episode - Dangerous Student Errors Part 3
1:14:19 Outro
Show Links:
Episode 1 - How to Become a Helicopter Pilot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR1NJ_OmLnE&list=PLJ8xtPILNIlhFk4nkt8bmgansopKNlITS
Episode 2 - How to Hover a Helicopter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kre64Yyuop0&list=PLJ8xtPILNIlhFk4nkt8bmgansopKNlITS
Episode 3 - Dangerous Student Errors Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STOPdnUg4zQ&list=PLJ8xtPILNIlhFk4nkt8bmgansopKNlITS
Robinson Safety Notice Update Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIptsjOjy8Y
Rotorcraft Collective - ⁠https://bit.ly/ushst025⁠
Rotary Wing Show Podcast - ⁠https://tinyurl.com/RWS-EP119⁠
Aviation News Talk Podcast - ⁠https://aviationnewstalk.com⁠
NTSB News Talk - ⁠https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-News-Talk⁠
UAV News Talk - ⁠https://tinyurl.com/UAV-news-talk⁠
Max’s Garmin Books - ⁠https://g1000book.com⁠
Robinson Safety Notices - ⁠https://tinyurl.com/RHC-SNs⁠
R44 Tail Stinger Strike - ⁠https://youtu.be/wyZ2ixFWKmQ⁠
R44 Rollover During Hover Training - ⁠https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-WPR22LA220⁠
AOPA President Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_2lI2UrZC4
Vietnam Dust Off Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnTAGMOfUDk
Art Whitten Interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd6jAgLA_zY
Schweizer Solo Tail Strike Accident - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-GAA18CA539
Non-Standard Quick Stop Accident - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-ERA21LA252
Bell 429 VRS Accident - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-ERA22FA207
Hover Auto Accident - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-WPR23LA043
Book a Discovery Flight - ⁠https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Disco⁠
Recommended Books - ⁠https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Books⁠
Essential Pilot Supplies - ⁠https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Supplies⁠
Helicopter Online Ground School (H.O.G.S.) 10% Discount use “HTV10” at Checkout - ⁠http://tinyurl.com/HOGSDiscount

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This is the first in a 3-part series where I join Max Trescott on The Rotary Wing Show Podcast to discuss some of the most dangerous student errors in helicopter training and how instructors can prevent mistakes from becoming accidents.
We cover general instructor considerations:
Guarding and blocking techniques for each control
“Ghosting” maneuvers
When to take the controls
How to respond when a student freezes up

Maneuver-specific guidance includes:
Pick up and set down
Slopes
Hover training
Normal and steep approaches
Running landings
Shutdowns

For this video version, I’ve added graphics and short clips to make the discussion clearer for visual learners. I also reference recent training accidents to highlight why these techniques are so important.

Prefer watching? See if your podcast player has video or watch on YouTube:⁠ ⁠tinyurl.com/HTP-Video-Podcast⁠⁠

Send us feedback and questions:⁠ ⁠HelicopterTrainingPodcast.com/Contact⁠⁠

Timestamps:
00:00 START
00:32 Episode 2 - How to Hover a Helicopter
00:53 Episode 3 - How to Become a Helicopter Pilot
01:23 Catch-up - New hire training
02:05 Rotorcraft Collective
02:30 Robinson Fly-In @ JTH in McMinnville, OR
03:09 Feedback from Bek05:56 Supporting the show
06:29 Part 1 of Dangerous Student Errors with Max Trescott
08:08 Introduction discussion with Max
14:40 General guidance on guarding controls
17:17 Guarding pedals
19:20 Guarding collective
19:56 Guarding throttle
22:45 Guarding cyclic
25:30 Ghosting the maneuver
29:04 Student freezing up
31:35 Pickup and set down student errors
34:35 Pickup training accident
36:45 Overspeeds during pickup
40:38 Slope training errors
44:26 Hovering training errors
57:45 Running landing training errors
1:05:30 Aborted running landing
1:09:33 Shutdown training errors
1:00:32 Next Episode - Autorotations
1:12:42 Wrap up with Max & Next Episode
1:17:11 Send your Feedback & Outro

Show Links:
Rotorcraft Collective - https://bit.ly/ushst025
Rotary Wing Show Podcast - https://tinyurl.com/RWS-EP119
Aviation News Talk Podcast - https://aviationnewstalk.com
NTSB News Talk - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-News-Talk
UAV News Talk - https://tinyurl.com/UAV-news-talk
Max’s Garmin Books - https://g1000book.com
FAA Safety Team - https://www.faasafety.gov
Jerry Trimble Helicopters - https://www.jerrytrimblehelicopters.com
Evergreen Aviation & Space Museum - https://www.evergreenmuseum.org
Wings & Waves Water Park - https://www.wingsandwaveswaterpark.com
Robinson Safety Notices - https://tinyurl.com/RHC-SNs
R44 Tail Stinger Strike - https://youtu.be/wyZ2ixFWKmQ
R44 Rollover During Hover Training - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-WPR22LA220
R22 LTE on Normal Approach - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-GAA17CA376
R22 Running Landing Rollover - https://tinyurl.com/NTSB-ERA14CA102
Book a Discovery Flight - https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Disco
Recommended Books - https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Books
Essential Pilot Supplies - https://tinyurl.com/HTV-Supplies
Helicopter Online Ground School (H.O.G.S.) 10% Discount use “HTV10” at Checkout - http://tinyurl.com/HOGSDiscount

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