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• #120 Depth Hypnosis: Isa Gucciardi

  In this episode, Isa Gucciardi discusses depth hypnosis, combining shamanic practices, Buddhist psychology, transpersonal psychology, and energy medicine to assist individuals in healing from issues such as depression, anxiety, trauma, and more. Isa Gucciardi, Ph.D. holds degrees in cultural and linguistic anthropology, comparative religion, and transpersonal psychology. She is the creator of Depth Hypnosis™, a groundbreaking therapeutic model that blends elements of ancient wisdom and contemporary psychological thought. It has won rave reviews from psychotherapeutic and spiritual counselors alike. She is also the author of three books, Coming to Peace, The New Return to the Great Mother, and Depth Hypnosis. Topics 00:00 Introduction02:13 Exploring Depth Hypnosis02:42 Components of Depth Hypnosis05:29 Case Studies and Applications09:01 Acceptance of Alternative Healing Modalities14:29 Integration and Plant Medicine20:30 Applied Shamanism and Cultural Sensitivity28:40 Ancestral Healing and Intergenerational Trauma40:49 Learning and Practicing Depth Hypnosis Resources IsaGucciardi.org Sacred Stream Support the mission of SAND and the production of this podcast by becoming a SAND Member

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• #119 Fractal Flourishing: Jeremy Lent

  In this episode, our guest, Jeremy Lent, discusses the profound global upheaval in early 2025. We explore themes of hope and grief amid political, cultural, and environmental crises. Lent provides deep insights into systems thinking, emphasizing the importance of interconnectedness and unpredictability in complex systems. The conversation also holds space for the impact of reductionist thinking, the power of technology, and the potential for societal transformation through integrated intelligence. The episode concludes with discussions on individual and systemic change, indigenous wisdom, and the need for a life-affirming future. Jeremy Lent is an author and speaker exploring the root causes of civilization’s crises and pathways to a sustainable future. Described by The Guardian’s George Monbiot as “one of the greatest thinkers of our age,” he is the author of The Patterning Instinct and The Web of Meaning, which integrate science and traditional wisdom to reimagine our place in the universe. He founded the Deep Transformation Network and Liology Institute to foster an ecological civilization and writes on cultural and political patterns at Patterns of Meaning. Topics 00:00 Introduction 00:52 Introducing Jeremy Lent 01:50 Navigating Hope and Grief 03:18 Systems Thinking and Interconnectedness 10:08 Cultural Narratives and Political Polarization 17:37 Technology's Role in Connection 26:10 Blockchain and Decentralization 27:43 Integrative Intelligence and Human Flourishing 32:32 Indigenous Wisdom and Reciprocity 49:42 Conclusion and Future Engagements Resources Jeremy Lent’s Website Deep Transformation Network Patterns of Meaning Fluke: Chance, Chaos, and Why Everything We Do Matters by Brian Klaas Sounds of SAND #108 Thrutopian Dreams: Manda Scott Support the mission of SAND and the production of this podcast by becoming a SAND Member

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• #118 Mythic Dharma: John Tarrant

  Today we explore the story of the Buddha’s awakening through a mythic lens with Buddhist writer and teacher, John Tarrant. We touch into topics like Zen koan, grief, death, art, and how this timeless parable of the Buddh’s story still resonants for thousands of years. John Tarrant is a Zen teacher, writer, and poet who has studied koans for over forty years. He is director of the Pacific Zen Institute and teaches culture change in organizations. Tarrant holds degrees in human sciences and English literature and a PhD in psychology. For twenty years, he was a Jungian psychotherapist working on dream analysis. He is the author of several books, including The Light Inside the Dark: Zen, Soul, and the Spiritual Life and Bring Me the Rhinoceros: And Other Zen Koans That Will Save Your Life and his most recent book The Story of the Buddha. He lives among the vineyards near Santa Rosa, California. Topics 00:00 Introduction 00:52 Introducing John Tarrant 02:07 Discussing 'The Story of the Buddha' 03:36 The Mythic Universe and Dreamlike Qualities 08:25 Illustrations and Artistic Choices 10:24 The Living Dharma and Personal Reflections 15:23 Modern Life and Spiritual Growth 18:26 Embracing Suffering and Death 22:19 Catholicism and Mysticism 27:57 The Light Inside the Dark 33:48 The Power of Noble Conversations 34:10 Craving and Contentment 34:44 Collective Grief and Environmental Collapse 36:05 The Enlightenment of a Samurai 38:07 The Buddha's Awakening and Interdependence 40:09 Dreams and Their Significance 42:59 Meditation and Connection with Animals 51:00 The Intimacy of Not Knowing 54:54 Returning to the Fire 56:13 Sharing the Dhamma Resources John Tarrant’s Website: Tarrant Works The Story of the Buddha by John Tarrant: Shambhala Publications Roberto Calasso: Explore Roberto Calasso’s Works Sounds of SAND #113 Ancient Rhythms Podcast: Pat McCabe & Francis Weller Sounds of SAND #98 Glissando of Consciousness: Andrew Holecek Bring Me the Rhinoceros: And Other Zen Koans That Will Save Your Life by John Tarrant The Light Inside the Dark: Zen, Soul, and the Spiritual Life by John Tarrant Support the mission of SAND and the production of this podcast by becoming a SAND Member

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• #117 Minds Under Siege: Gabor Maté, Naomi Klein & Cecilie Surasky

  In this SAND Community Gathering (January 2025), journalist Naomi Klein and trauma expert Dr. Gabor Maté explored the complex intersection of collective trauma, political power, and memory in a discussion moderated by Cecilie Surasky. Drawing from Naomi’s recent analysis of how trauma has been weaponized in current conflicts, and Gabor’s deep understanding of trauma’s psychological impacts, their conversation examined how media narratives and political rhetoric weaponize fear and trauma to gain public support for military and political crimes. The discussion addressed the troubling speed at which the Oct 7 Jewish trauma is now converted into a spectacle through virtual reality experiences, museum exhibitions, and immersive memorials, while questioning who gets to control these narratives and to what end. Together, they explored alternatives for remembering that might lead toward healing rather than perpetuating cycles of violence. We hear from several Community Gathering audience members with their questions in the second half of the episode. Gabor Maté, M.D. is a specialist on trauma, addiction, stress and childhood development. After 20 years of family practice and palliative care experience, Dr. Maté worked for over a decade in Vancouver’s Downtown East Side with patients challenged by drug addiction and mental illness. For his groundbreaking medical work and writing he has been awarded the Order of Canada, his country’s highest civilian distinction, and the Civic Merit Award from his hometown, Vancouver. Gabor is also the creator of a psychotherapeutic approach, Compassionate Inquiry, now studied by thousands of therapists, physicians, counselors, and others in over 80 countries. Naomi Klein is an award-winning journalist and New York Times bestselling author. She is a columnist with The Guardian. In 2018 she was named the inaugural Gloria Steinem Endowed Chair at Rutgers University and is now Honorary Professor of Media and Climate at Rutgers. In September 2021 she joined the University of British Columbia as UBC Professor of Climate Justice (tenured) and co-director of the Centre for Climate Justice. Cecilie Surasky is the Director of Communications and Narrative at the Othering & Belonging Institute (OBI), where she leads an incredible team focused on integrating strategic communications and narrative strategies. With a background in Religious Studies and Semiotics, Cecilie views all narratives as sacred, and believes that leaders, for better or worse, often serve as modern-day high priests. As former deputy director of Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) she led impactful campaigns aimed at building a co-liberation movement and garnering support for Palestinian human rights. Topics 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:45 Panel Introduction and Moderator 01:31 Exploring Trauma and Its Impact 02:44 Weaponizing Trauma in Conflict 06:14 Historical Context and Jewish Identity 10:54 Challenging Narratives and Identities 15:09 The Role of Trauma in Shaping Perspectives 30:35 The Impact of Trauma on Palestinians 32:17 Structures of Deliberate Traumatization 37:48 Healing and Moving Forward 41:50 Debunking Historical Myths 42:12 Instrumentalization of Trauma 43:24 Hollywood's Role in Shaping Trauma Narratives 46:30 Economic and Political Motives Behind the Holocaust 48:27 Comparing Historical and Modern Genocides 49:59 Imagining a State Focused on Healing Trauma 51:00 Reclaiming and Reinterpreting History 58:29 The Role of Compassion in Addressing Trauma 01:05:44 Palestinian Perspectives on Healing and Storytelling 01:13:21 Concluding Thoughts and Future Conversations Resources Naomi Klein’s Website Gabor Maté’s Website Other and Belonging Institute Jewish Voices for Peace Naomi Klein’s Article on Israel Weaponizing Trauma: “How Israel has made trauma a weapon of war” (The Guardian) Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World by Naomi Klein The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness & Healing in a Toxic Culture by Gabor Maté Watch SAND’s Where Olive Trees Weep Purchase SAND’s full 23-video series Conversations on Palestine Watch SAND’s The Wisdom of Trauma Learn more about the SAND Community Gatherings Support the mission of SAND and the production of this podcast by becoming a SAND Member

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• #116  Echoes of Resilience: Rawan Roshni

  Rawan Roshni is in conversation to discuss the recent ceasefire announcement affecting Palestine and offers a poignant and emotional reflection on the situation. She shares stories from her displaced Palestinian heritage, detailing her family's survival and the ongoing trauma faced by Palestinians. We explore the healing modalities of sound, music, and the human voice and listen to two of her newest live pieces of music and poetry, “Al-Tuyoor: Messages from the Birds” and “Prophecy of Remembrance”. Rawan Roshni is a Palestinian/Balkan, Global Citizen, Arab Woman, based in Jordan. She uses her voice as an Artivist through her singing/songwriting and facilitation of brave spaces focusing her work in the SWANA region. She has co-founded multiple interfaith and world music projects and most recently has been touring her solo tri-lingual live-looping Music & Poetry performance Al-Tuyoor: Messages from the Birds for 2 years across 7 countries and counting! Her facilitation work over the past decade has ranged from issues such as conflict transformation, collective liberation, catalyzing community, emotional processing tools, conscious relating, consent and more! She fuses Sound, Movement and Intuitive Rituals as tools in her work, bringing elements such as group singing, sound work through vocalization, whirling dance, and intentional nature-based practices. Topics: 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:29 Emotional Reactions to Ceasefire 01:38 Mixed Feelings and Skepticism 04:01 Personal Connection to Palestine 05:17 Family History and Displacement 09:21 Art and Music as Healing 11:43 The Power of the Human Voice 12:38 Artivism and Activism 19:20 “Prophecy of Rememberance” (song) 38:07 Birds as Messengers 57:50 Future Projects and Closing Remarks Resources: Website Instagram Nada Bramha Aboriginal Song Lines “Conference of the Birds” by Manṭiq-uṭ-Ṭayr Sacred Activism Course at Tamera Sacred Activism Course in Montenegro Support the mission of SAND and the production of this podcast by becoming a SAND Member

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