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Shona Riddell
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  • 27. Shark scientist Clinton Duffy on shark behaviour, what swimmers should know, and what it's like tagging great whites
    I watched JAWS as a kid and was subsequently scared to go in the water, just as the movie's tagline promised. Now I swim in the sea regularly and I know a bit more about sharks, but I wanted to talk to an expert. Clinton Duffy grew up with a fascination of sharks after encountering a bronze whaler, and he has spent much of his life and career in the pursuit of knowledge about these sharp-toothed ocean predators (as well as other marine creatures, such as rays). He worked in marine science at DOC and is now a Curator of Marine Biology at Auckland Museum – and there's a very cool exhibition about sharks opening in December. In this episode, we talk about:What to do (and not do) if you're swimming and meet a sharkWhere (and when) not to swim if you're actively trying to avoid sharksThe many and varied species of sharks that live in NZ waters (most of them prefer deep water)The likelihood of being attacked by a shark (hint: it's not high)How shark populations have declined worldwide due to overfishing and habitat destruction Clinton's career as a marine scientist, including tagging and studying great whites (he explains how to tag a shark; definitely a job for the professionals)Clinton's favourite shark: it can walk!The fascinating sharks of the deep sea (here's a link to the Deep-Sea Podcast)How to respect stingrays in the shallows when entering and exiting the water, and how Clinton dealt with a stingray that sat on his head while he was diving.The photo of Clinton holding a tagged school shark was taken by Brit Finucci, Earth Sciences NZ, in Dusky Sound this year.  Clinton was assisting Dr Alice Rogers, Victoria University of Wellington, and Dr Finucci tagging broadnose sevengill sharks and school sharks. *Support the podcast via ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/SwimChats⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Swim Chats on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hit 'Follow' so you don't miss an episode. Thanks for listening! :-)
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  • 26. Coach Barb Watson on growing up as a competitive swimmer, building a swim community, and making it fun
    I had the pleasure of interviewing my swim coach Barbara (Barb) Watson, who has dedicated over 60 years to coaching in Wellington. It was recorded while we sat in her car at Freyberg Beach early on a Wednesday morning, watching the sunrise and drinking coffee. In this episode you'll hear some of Barb's life story and much of it is an oral history of swimming in Wellington, from the early 1950s to today. Barb was always drawn to the water and it ran in the family because her dad, Frank, was an open water swimming champion in the 1920s before he took on coaching and pool management. He worked at many Wellington pools including Karori Pool, Thordon Pool, Riddiford Baths in the Hutt, and Naenae Pool. He also swam in the open-air (and gender-segregated) Te Aro Baths before it was replaced by Freyberg Pool in 1963. Barb was a strong freestyle and butterfly swimmer. She competed in national championships and won the prestigious Annette Kellerman Cup for open water swimming. She trained mainly at Naenae Pool, where her father was the manager, under the coach John Hamilton. She started coaching herself at the age of just 12 and has been coaching more or less ever since. As a solo mum in the 1970s she worked hard to make ends meet and today, as a great-grandmother, she still has a houseful of young people.Barb's coaching philosophy is about enjoyment, accessibility, and community – she teaches us, and also values what we give to her. She has dedicated decades to teaching and mentoring swimmers of all ages and levels, from newcomers scared of the water to ultramarathoners. She coaches at Kilbirnie (WRAC), Cannons Creek, and Te Ngaengae pools, and at Freyberg Beach on Wednesday and Sunday mornings where she gives us a pep talk, looks after our valuables, and provides jet plane lollies after we get out. Barb has been recognised for her services to the community but she doesn't like a fuss, so this is a rare interview. Our full conversation lasted for three hours and included people coming and going to have a swim and collect their gear, so this is the abridged version of 1h15. Grab a cuppa and enjoy.Thanks Barb, for all that you do for us! <3*Image: Barb handing out jet planes to swimmers at Freyberg Beach. Artwork by Fifi Colston to commemorate Barb's 75th birthday in 2023. *Support the podcast via ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/SwimChats⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Swim Chats on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Hit 'Follow' so you don't miss an episode. Thanks for listening! :-)
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  • 25. Dan Feisst on running the NZ Ocean Swim Series and providing positive swim experiences
    Dan Feisst is a big part of NZ's swim community – he runs the Ocean Swim Series, the Summer Swim Series, the Beach Series, and Swim Vanuatu. He's also a swim coach in Auckland and owns The Swim Shop, which sells gear for pool and open water swimmers.In this episode we talk about:the upcoming 2025–26 NZ Ocean Swim Series: which events are running around the country and when? There are the classics (such as Rangitoto, Beach to Bay in Russell, Legend of the Lake in Rotorua) and some exciting new ones!listening to swimmers' feedback and making adjustments each year – such as introducing a Newbie Tent to support newcomers and nervous swimmersthe Beach Series and Summer Swim Series including SwimRun eventsDan's own swimming and career path to retail, coaching and event management; what drives him to run these swim events?Dan's annual Swim Vanuatu camp and all the cool places and adventures it entails (I hereby volunteer as Vanuatu podcast correspondent)Dan's Swim Shop on Mt Eden Road in Auckland and online* Support the podcast via ⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/SwimChats⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Swim Chats on Instagram⁠⁠⁠Hit 'Follow' so you don't miss an episode. Thanks for listening! :-)
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  • 24. Lynne Cox on the 50th anniversary of her Cook Strait swim, swimming to Antarctica, and building global connections
    Lynne Cox is an American open water swimmer who has set records, and brought people together, around the world. In 1972 at the age of 15 she broke the men's and women's world records when she swam across the English Channel – and she did it again the following year.In 1975 she was the first woman, and fourth person, to swim across New Zealand's Cook Strait (in extremely rough conditions!).In 1987 she swam across the Bering Strait between Alaska and Siberia during the Cold War – a swim that Reagan and Gorbachev both acknowledged as helping to bridge the divide between the two nations.She was the first person to swim across the Strait of Magellan at the bottom of South America, and also to swim around the Cape of Good Hope in South Africa.She swam the first 'ice mile' in Antarctica in 2002.Lynne chronicles all of these magnificent swims and many others in her memoir 'Swimming to Antarctica: Tales of a Long Distance Swimmer' (2004). She has written a number of other books too, including the children's books 'Yoshi, Sea Turtle Genius' and 'Elizabeth, Queen of the Seas', a true story about an elephant seal that lived in Christchurch's Avon River. Visit Lynne's website to learn more about her swims, her books, and guest speaking appearances. The photo of Lynne with Saki the seal is courtesy of Lynne Cox.*Support the podcast via ⁠⁠Patreon.com/SwimChats⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Swim Chats on Instagram⁠⁠Hit 'Follow' so you don't miss an episode. Thanks for listening! :-)
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  • 23. 'Outdoor Swimmer' magazine with founder Simon Griffiths and editor Ella Foote
    Outdoor Swimmer magazine is the world's only monthly, printed magazine about open water or wild swimming (as far as we know!). It was founded by Simon Griffiths in 2011 and October 2025 is the magazine's 100th issue, edited by Ella Foote who has been Outdoor Swimmer's editor since 2022.Simon and Ella are (unsurprisingly!) very passionate about swimming. They have both written books and accomplished many impressive swims in all sorts of locations. Ella is also a swim coach and provides guided swim experiences through her company, Dip Advisor.In this episode we discuss the highlights and challenges of publishing a swim magazine that celebrates the fun, joy and connections of swimming outdoors, from dipping to ultramarathons, and which includes safety tips and swim gear advice. We also talk about Simon and Ella's own swimming journeys and the importance of swim communities. Visit the Outdoor Swimmer website where you can subscribe to the magazine (they deliver the print version internationally and/or there's a digital option), sign up for their free weekly newsletter The Dip, and read feature articles, gear reviews, and swim tips.Simon's book is 'Swim Wild and Free: A Practical Guide to Swimming Outdoors 365 Days a Year.' (Bloomsbury Sport, 2022)Ella's book is 'How to Wild Swim: What to Know Before Taking the Plunge.' (DK, 2023)Ella's Instagram pageOutdoor Swimmer's Instagram page*Support the podcast via ⁠Patreon.com/SwimChats⁠⁠⁠Follow Swim Chats on Instagram⁠Hit 'Follow' so you don't miss an episode. Thanks for listening! :-)
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Every swimmer has a story to tell. Writer and swimmer Shona Riddell chats to adventure swimmers, winter dippers, marathon swim coaches, marine conservationists and more to find out how they got started and the lessons they've learned along the way. Whether you’re a swimmer yourself, or just interested in stories about the sea and people expanding their comfort zones, you'll enjoy these swim chats. Please hit the 'Follow' button so you don’t miss an episode. Contact me via swimchatswithshona at gmail dot com. Support the podcast and become a Swim Buddy via patreon.com/SwimChats
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