In Terms and Conditions Apply, join Ethan D. Smith as he explores the history, nuance, and occasional absurdity of modern terms and conditions agreements.
In this final episode, we'll discuss the options we have as users when it comes to securing our online privacy in response to terms and conditions agreements and privacy policies.
For show notes, references, and further reading, visit this episode's blog post: https://termsconditionsapply.com/2019/12/18/what-do-we-do-now-terms-and-conditions-apply-podcast-episode-5
Music from https://filmmusic.io:
"Lobby Time" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Backbay Lounge" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"George Street Shuffle" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Sneaky Snitch" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Samba Isobel" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Airport Lounge" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Dreamer" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"On My Way" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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Other music:
“Let That Sink In,” composed by Lee Rosevere. https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com/
Used under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Royale,” performed by Josh Lippi & the Overtimers https://joshlippi.bandcamp.com/
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41:51
Rules and Regulations
If any meaningful change to terms and conditions agreements is to happen, would it require government intervention?
For references and further reading, including links referred to in the show, visit this episode's blog post on termsconditionsapply.com
Music from https://filmmusic.io:
"Airport Lounge" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
"Amazing Plan" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"No Good Layabout" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Hard Boiled" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Covert Affair" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Samba Isobel" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Mining by Moonlight" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Dreamer" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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Other music:
“Let That Sink In,” composed by Lee Rosevere. https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com/
Used under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Royale,” performed by Josh Lippi & the Overtimers https://joshlippi.bandcamp.com/
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36:25
Contracts and the Law
If Terms and Conditions agreements are effectively contracts we sign with large companies, what happens when there’s a dispute? How are these agreements seen through the eyes of the law?
Follow the show on Twitter @TermsCondPod
More information on my guests:
Chris Cotropia
University of Richmond faculty page
“Higher Education and the DMCA” Chris Cotropia and Jim Gibson, 2018.
Jim Gibson
University of Richmond Faculty Page
“Boilerplate’s False Dichotomy” James Gibson, 2018
“Click to Agree” James Gibson, Richmond Law Magazine, 2013
References and Further Reading Available at TermsConditionsApply.com
Music from https://filmmusic.io
"Apero Hour" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Lobby Time" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Airport Lounge" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Sneaky Adventure" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Crinoline Dreams" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Opportunity Walks" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
Other Music
“Let That Sink In,” composed by Lee Rosevere. https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com/
Used under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Royale,” performed by Josh Lippi & the Overtimers https://joshlippi.bandcamp.com/
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43:38
It's All About the Ads
In this episode, we explore the history of Internet advertising as it relates to Terms & Conditions agreements. Is advertising a necessary evil, or the Internet’s original sin?
Follow the show on Twitter for updates: @TermsCondPod
Interested in learning more about Ethan Zuckerman’s research group at the MIT Media Lab? Learn more here: https://www.media.mit.edu/people/ethanz/projects/
To see Phyllis Weber’s advertising director skills in action, visit https://www.roanoke.com/
References and Further Reading
“The Internet’s Original Sin” -Ethan Zuckerman, writing in The Atlantic, August 2014 https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/08/advertising-is-the-internets-original-sin/376041/
“Internet Advertising Sees Breakthrough Year in 1997” IAB https://www.iab.com/news/internet-advertising-sees-breakthrough-year-1997/
“Windows XP SP2 Turns 'On' Pop-up Blocking” http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3327991
Internet advertising revenue reports: https://www.iab.com/insights/iab-internet-advertising-revenue-report-conducted-by-pricewaterhousecoopers-pwc-2/#year2000
FB 2019 2Q results: https://s21.q4cdn.com/399680738/files/doc_financials/2019/Q2/Q2-2019-Earnings-Presentation-07.24.2019.pdf
E. Zuckerman on MIT Media Lab Website: https://www.media.mit.edu/people/ethanz/overview/
“Weber named Roanoke Times ad director” https://www.roanoke.com/business/weber-named-roanoke-times-ad-director/article_c0f77fed-5acf-5224-87d2-6abf8315931b.html
Tracking Pixels: https://en.ryte.com/wiki/Tracking_Pixel
Cookies: https://en.ryte.com/wiki/Cookie
Google’s ad revenue: 2001-2018: https://www.statista.com/statistics/266249/advertising-revenue-of-google/
“You’re only worth $1.21 to Facebook” CNN Money https://money.cnn.com/2012/05/16/technology/facebook-arpu/index.htm
BH Media Group Terms & Conditions: https://www.roanoke.com/site/terms.html
BH Media Group Privacy Policy: https://www.roanoke.com/site/terms.html/#privacy
Music from https://filmmusic.io
"Hard Boiled" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
"George Street Shuffle" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
"Martini Sunset" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
"Cool Vibes" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
"Sneaky Snitch" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
"Bossa Antigua" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
"Kool Kats" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
Other music:
“Let That Sink In,” composed by Lee Rosevere. https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com/
Used under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Southside,” composed by Lee Rosevere. https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com/
Used under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Royale,” performed by Josh Lippi & the Overtimers https://joshlippi.bandcamp.com/
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36:52
The New Social Contract
Everyone knows that “I have read the Terms and Conditions” is the biggest lie on the Internet. But in an age where these contracts are present on almost every website online, just what is it we’re agreeing to when we accept the terms provided to us by web companies?
Follow the show on Twitter for updates @TermsCondPod
Links and further reading:
“When Not Reading the Fine Print Can Cost You Your Soul” – NPR, March 8, 2019 https://www.npr.org/2019/03/08/701417140/when-not-reading-the-fine-print-can-cost-your-soul
“The Biggest Lie on the Internet: Ignoring the Privacy Policies and Terms of Service Policies of Social Networking Services” – Obar and Oeldorf-Hirsch, April 2016, revised August 2018 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2757465
The Alex Kogan Experience – Against the Rules with Michael Lewis, April 16, 2019. https://atrpodcast.com/episodes/the-alex-kogan-experience-s1!d20f3
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Hearing on Data Privacy and Protection, April 10, 2018. https://www.c-span.org/video/?443543-1/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-testifies-data-protection
Music from https://filmmusic.io:
"Backbay Lounge" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
"Dreamer" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
"Loopster" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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"Samba Isobel" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
Other music
“Let That Sink In,” composed by Lee Rosevere. https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com/
Used under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Royale,” performed by Josh Lippi & the Overtimers. Used with permission. https://joshlippi.bandcamp.com/
In Terms and Conditions Apply, join Ethan D. Smith as he explores the history, nuance, and occasional absurdity of modern terms and conditions agreements.
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