American Alchemy with Jesse Michels

Our American Alchemist this week is Brandon Fugal, Owner of Skinwalker Ranch.

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Brandon Fugal is the owner of Skinwalker Ranch and one of Utah's most prominent real estate developers. In this conversation, Brandon reveals new evidence of what lies beneath the mesa, the terrifying hitchhiker effect, and why the ranch may sit on an interstellar highway.

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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
2:44 - Meeting Brandon Fugal
5:53 - What Skinwalker Ranch Is
8:34 - A Childhood Pact
13:29 - The Hitchhiker Effect
19:56 - Thomas Winterton's Injuries
22:16 - GPS Failures and Time Anomalies
23:17 - Portals, Wormholes, and Anomalies
26:07 - Erik Bard's Magnet Experiment
28:31 - Michael Shermer and Skepticism
30:56 - The Mutilated Calf
36:28 - The Navajo-Ute Conflict
37:51 - First Visit in 2016
41:06 - Jesse's Visit to the Ranch
41:35 - Sponsors (Cape)
43:28 - Jesse's Visit Continued
47:22 - A Bad Month in LA
50:39 - Guardians of Forbidden Knowledge
54:09 - The Hells Angels Incident
57:42 - Tom Lewis's Cardiac Episode
1:03:01 - The Ranch Amplifies Intent
1:07:37 - Sky Elements Drone Failure
1:09:37 - Confirmation Bias and Critics
1:11:33 - The Shermans and Bigelow
1:13:58 - NIDS and AAWSAP
1:16:41 - Place in UFO History
1:21:51 - Bigelow Science and Consciousness
1:26:07 - Aliens, Time Travel, or Spirits
1:30:00 - Cosmic Zoo and Ancient Technology
1:33:45 - Something Under the Mesa
1:35:55 - Sponsors (Plaud)
1:37:28 - Sponsors (Superpower)
1:39:26 - Material and Voids
1:41:43 - The 1964 Nickel
1:43:30 - A UFO Under the Mesa
1:44:58 - The Bubble
1:46:53 - Unmarked Black Hawk Helicopters
1:48:03 - The Oil and Gas Operation
1:53:01 - Transparency and the History Channel
1:58:20 - Puthoff, Green, and Motion Sciences
2:04:04 - Keeping Ownership Secret
2:08:26 - Travis Taylor's Transformation
2:11:42 - Bradshaw Ranch and Global Hotspots
2:17:03 - Taylor and the UAP Task Force
2:21:13 - Four Years of Secret Funding
2:23:36 - Answering the Grifter Accusation
2:30:28 - Spielberg and Disclosure Day
2:32:44 - The Schumer Amendment
2:36:31 - A Mormon Connection
2:38:15 - Sean Kirkpatrick's Denial
2:43:28 - The Dire Wolf Carcass
2:50:55 - The Message on the Screen
2:53:38 - The Baltic Sea Anomaly
2:57:56 - Rabbi Ariel Bar Tzadok's Chant
3:01:47 - EEG Experiment and Chris Bledsoe
3:04:51 - Theories About Reality
3:09:13 - A Century of Accounts
3:11:21 - Fear and Faith
3:17:58 - The X-Files and Sign-Off
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Our American Alchemist this week is Maaneli "Max" Derakhshani. Check out Max's work here https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Maaneli-Derakhshani

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Theoretical physicist Maaneli Derakhshani, a Utrecht PhD working on lunar anomalies, discovered that NASA holds two versions of the same Apollo 14 photograph: in one, a blue orb hangs in the sky above astronaut Ed Mitchell, and in the other it has been redacted out. He has found the same across other Apollo missions, and Ken Johnston Sr., a former NASA consultant and pilot who worked with the astronauts, says he was ordered to destroy early negatives showing things that weren't supposed to be there.

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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:28 - Maaneli's Background
3:54 - Stony Brook, Renaissance, and Brookhaven
10:45 - Clementine and the Space Act
15:03 - Does NASA Know More?
18:52 - Apollo 17 Blue Lights
21:22 - Sponsors (DOSE)
22:51 - Apollo 17 Metallic Object
25:50 - Cosmic Rays and Lens Flare
28:58 - Buzz Aldrin's Apollo 11 Sighting
35:45 - Cernan and Mitchell's Experiences
39:32 - Enforced Secrecy and Dean Radin
41:11 - Freemasonry Inside NASA
43:26 - NASA Insiders and Gary McKinnon
46:03 - Ken Johnston and Archive Inconsistencies
51:59 - Shuttle Footage and Code Words
57:24 - Wishbone Structure and Lunar Erosion
1:00:37 - Withholding and the Brookings Report
1:02:42 - Brandenburg, Mars, and Carl Sagan
1:05:00 - Sagan's Two Sides and the Face on Mars
1:10:53 - Menzel and Narrative Management
1:11:37 - Villarroel and the Palomar Transients
1:16:23 - Fast Walkers and DSP Satellites
1:20:12 - Armstrong's Ecuador Expedition
1:21:45 - The Phobos Monolith and Arthur C. Clarke
1:26:51 - Mars Anomalies and NASA's Silence
1:29:50 - Blue Book, Condon, and AARO
1:32:27 - Sponsors (ZBiotics)
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1:35:02 - Compton-Belkovich Heat Anomaly
1:38:58 - Nuclear Sites and UFO Correlation
1:40:49 - Aristarchus Crater
1:44:06 - Lunex and the Secret Space Program
1:48:23 - Is the Moon Hollow?
1:51:21 - Moon Formation Anomalies
1:55:08 - Directed Panspermia and Mars Origins
1:57:53 - The Moon Landing Question
2:01:37 - Jim Keller's Hoax Case
2:03:15 - Getting Into Parapsychology
2:07:32 - The Ganzfeld Protocol and Psi Statistics
2:13:37 - Spacetime Metric Engineering
2:19:02 - Joining the Legacy Program
2:21:01 - Why No Theoretical Physicists?
2:26:17 - Teller, Lazar, and Townsend Brown
2:27:54 - The Galileo iPhone Analogy
2:29:40 - The Cumulative Case for ET
2:33:26 - Closing
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Our American Alchemist this week is Jason Samosa. Check out Jason’s channel at https://www.youtube.com/@jason_samosa

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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:20 - Sponsor (Incogni)
3:50 - Guest Introduction
4:42 - Vallée and the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis
8:31 - The Impending Apocalypse Message
9:41 - When Prophecy Fails and UFO Cults
11:31 - Jolly West and MK-Ultra
12:33 - Apocalypticism Goes Mainstream
13:46 - The Demonic Overlay and the Collins Elite
20:25 - Doug Coe and The Family
23:47 - Intermediary Beings Across Religions
24:48 - Why Christianity Scaled
25:25 - Jason's Origin Story
30:54 - Disclosure as a Personal Process
34:04 - The Tom DeLonge Story
41:24 - Why UFOs Resurged in Popularity
42:52 - Vallée's Journals and "Confirmation"
47:12 - Presidents and UFO Briefings
48:06 - Clinton's Push for Information
48:57 - The CIA's Weird Desk
51:16 - Obama and UFOs
53:49 - Greenwald's FOIA Findings
54:35 - AAWSAP, AATIP, and Known Programs
56:02 - Grusch and the Legacy Program
57:15 - Sponsor (Qualia)
58:55 - Sponsor (Chubbies)
1:00:03 - What's Going On Inside Government
1:00:46 - The Aztec, New Mexico Crash
1:03:01 - Control Systems and Von Neumann Probes
1:04:18 - Vallée's Capella Database
1:07:39 - Personal Evolution Over Disclosure
1:08:48 - The Human Technology Angle
1:09:11 - Bob Lazar and Parallel Engineering
1:12:13 - Nazi Disc Craft
1:16:16 - McCasland's Disappearance
1:18:05 - The Maison Rouge Meeting
1:21:11 - Prescott Bush, Dulles, and Ford
1:25:52 - Relocating Nazi Technology
1:26:53 - The World Commerce Corporation
1:29:18 - Rockefeller and UFOs
1:40:46 - Howard Hughes in the Bahamas
1:43:56 - Semivan on Private Intelligence Networks
1:47:45 - Robert Maxwell and Permindex
1:51:18 - Epstein, Deep State, and UFOs
1:58:58 - King Charles and the Royal Family
2:02:39 - Ed May and Prince Hans-Adam
2:04:38 - Where Disclosure Goes From Here
2:07:41 - Elizondo and Hybrids
2:13:15 - Semivan on Alien-Human Hybrids
2:17:30 - Does the Vatican Know
2:19:16 - Metternich and the Secrets of Fatima
2:22:46 - The Magenta Crash and Majestic 12
2:25:41 - AFOSI and the Knights of Malta
2:30:30 - Where to Find Jason
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Our American Alchemist this week is Michael Shermer. Check out Michael’s book Truth: What It Is, How to Find It, and Why It Still Matters at https://amzn.to/4fstzal

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One of the biggest names in scientific skepticism, Michael Shermer, has come to debate the strongest UFO cases ever recorded. More than 50 years of well documented UFO incursions at American nuclear weapon sites, the 2004 Nimitz “Tic Tac” encounter, what really crashed at Roswell, and the disappearance or deaths of a dozen scientists working on top secret technology are laid out in a tense exchange with the new member of the White House UAP Science Advisory Council. Shermer is the founding publisher of Skeptic Magazine, the author of more than a dozen books on belief and pseudoscience, and is betting that no major scientific institution will confirm an alien presence by the end of 2030.

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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:44 - Meet Michael Shermer
5:49 - Shermer's Position and Evidence Thresholds
14:04 - UFOs at Nuclear Missile Sites
21:28 - Sponsors (KetoneIQ, Raycon)
24:26 - Nuclear Accidents and Base Rates
26:28 - Explaining Away UAP Sightings
35:06 - Government Interest and Disclosure
45:06 - Nimitz Tic Tac Encounter
48:20 - Photos, Videos, and Witnesses
54:39 - Scientific Priority and SETI
57:58 - ET Discovery and New Physics
1:02:15 - Palomar Transients and Anomalies
1:06:04 - Dark Matter, Truth, and Belief
1:09:02 - Eyewitnesses and the Courtroom
1:14:05 - Missing Scientists and McCasland
1:21:10 - Strongest UFO Cases
1:23:35 - Graham Hancock and Göbekli Tepe
1:30:41 - Pyramids and JFK
1:31:52 - Sponsors (MUD\WTR)
1:32:58 - Manson, MKUltra, and Oswald
1:37:44 - Astronaut UFO Sightings
1:42:07 - NASA Transparency
1:46:07 - Gary McKinnon Hack
1:48:08 - David Grusch and Magenta 1933
1:53:49 - Roswell and Crash Retrievals
2:01:11 - Contrarians and Government Files
2:04:33 - Shermer's Abduction Experience
2:08:04 - Abduction Research and Memory
2:16:12 - Havana Syndrome
2:19:51 - Shermer's Mystical Radio Experience
2:23:45 - Perception and Base Reality
2:28:20 - Remote Viewing and Stargate
2:39:40 - MKUltra and Limits of Science
2:42:04 - Non-Consensus Thinkers and Prediction Markets
2:50:17 - Varginha Brazil Crash
2:53:31 - Secrecy and Sagan
2:57:35 - Debunking, Conspiracies, and Media
3:05:14 - What Aliens Might Look Like
3:09:41 - Perception Thought Experiments
3:12:48 - Consciousness, God, and Simulation
3:17:42 - Myth and Truth
3:20:15 - Closing Thoughts
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Our American Alchemist this week is Rep. Eric Burlison. Follow Eric on X at https://x.com/RepEricBurlison

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Missouri Congressman Eric Burlison reveals that senior intelligence officials investigating a UAP encounter at a U.S. military installation in the western United States personally watched three-meter glowing plasma orbs interact with a helicopter and chase F-16 fighter jets scrambled to intercept them, an event so significant it elevated the government’s UAP investigation from a low priority case to a top ten national security concern.

Burlison, a member of the House Oversight Committee, says he was the first elected official briefed on the incident, by a team originally assembled under Tulsi Gabbard’s office. He also confirms he personally toured Naval Air Station Patuxent River, the site allegedly slated to receive a craft transferred from Lockheed Martin to Bigelow Aerospace, and sat down with Navy scientist Salvatore Pais, whose patents on inertial mass reduction and gravitational wave generation read like a blueprint for anti-gravity propulsion. Pais reportedly told him the government’s prototype was never built to his actual specifications, and a properly built version may have produced very different results.

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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:28 - Meeting Congressman Burlison
4:27 - Software Career & Free-Market Roots
7:35 - Getting Into UFOs in Congress
11:25 - Townsend Brown & Anti-Gravity
12:27 - Missing Scientists: Eskridge & Ning Li
14:59 - Investigating MITRE & Aerospace Corp
18:15 - Crowdsourcing the Investigation
20:55 - MIT Lincoln Labs 1952 Audio File
22:07 - The Varginha Case & FBI Letter
24:14 - Aldo Rebelo Interview
27:12 - American Cosmic & Tim Taylor
28:53 - Weaponized Podcast & Pax River
30:25 - The White House Request Story
33:24 - Goldwater, LeMay & the Blue Room
34:41 - Pax River Visit & Salvatore Pais
38:16 - John Kosloski & AARO
40:13 - Condon Committee & the Skeptics
43:05 - Avi Loeb's Scientific Panel
44:18 - Boebert, Gaetz & Hybrids
45:33 - Burchett & Deep-Water Sites
46:07 - Vetting Wild Claims
46:49 - Sponsors (Shopify)
47:59 - The Craziest Thing Told to Him
48:57 - Calling In UAP with Chris Bledsoe
52:11 - Tulsi Gabbard & The DIG
53:01 - The Western U.S. Encounter
54:47 - Glowing Orbs & the F-16 Chase
56:14 - Grusch & Sentient Plasmoid Life
57:43 - Skywatcher & Craft Taxonomy
58:45 - Nathan Twining & Project Twinkle
1:00:52 - Robert Temple & Plasma Physics
1:02:12 - Kordylewski Clouds & Long Delayed Echoes
1:04:55 - Meeting Jake Barber (and Jack Black)
1:07:16 - Lockheed Facilities & Michael Herrera
1:08:44 - Sentinels of Ether
1:11:41 - The Blacker-Than-Black Sphere
1:14:28 - Sponsors (Quo)
1:16:17 - Sponsors (iRestore)
1:17:24 - Living With Threats
1:19:02 - Matthew Sullivan's Death
1:20:56 - Craft Geometries & Immaculate Constellation
1:24:04 - Why the Program Went Public in 2017
1:25:55 - Neil McCasland Goes Missing
1:29:27 - Pastors & the Clandestine Christian Group
1:34:38 - Reconciling UFOs & Faith
1:37:41 - Collins Elite, Angels & Demons
1:42:42 - Aliens vs. Time Travelers
1:45:55 - Who He'd Subpoena & the Onion Problem
1:51:08 - Nullifying the NDAs
1:53:25 - What Does Trump Know?
1:56:02 - Two Worldviews on the Cover-Up
1:57:46 - Tim Taylor's Hierarchy & Experiencers
2:01:15 - Time Around Trump
2:05:36 - Where Disclosure Goes Next
2:10:10 - Do We Have Craft & Bodies?
2:11:44 - Closing Remarks
2:12:47 - YouTube Membership
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