The EV Musings Podcast

Why Hesitation Holds Back the Electric Vehicle Revolution—and How to Overcome It
In this episode, we explore the common barriers preventing more people from switching to electric vehicles. Drawing parallels with smartphone adoption and featuring insights from Greg Hughes, this discussion clarifies why hesitation persists—and how overcoming it can accelerate the move to cleaner mobility.
Main Topics:
The psychological and societal barriers to adopting EVs, including range anxiety and misinformation
The tangible benefits of test drives and real-world experiences in easing fears
How infrastructure, costs, and secondhand EV options influence buying decisions
Misinformation and how reliable, accessible information can break down doubts
Practical advice for prospective owners: test drives, peer insights, and thinking long-term

Resources & Links
Everything Electric Event
Robert Llewelyn – YouTube Channel
Tesla Official Website
MG Motors
Hyundai Electric Vehicles

Key Takeaway:
Hesitation around EVs is natural but primarily rooted in misinformation, lack of firsthand experience, and infrastructural concerns. Just like the smartphone revolution, once people have the chance to sit in, drive, and see the benefits firsthand, resistance diminishes. The shift to electric isn't just inevitable; it’s already accelerating—your move might just be a test drive away.
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence.
Episode produced by Arran Sheppard at Urban Podcasts: https://www.urbanpodcasts.co.uk
(C) 2019-2026 Gary Comerford
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Zapmap EV Guide

Exploring the evolution of supermarket charging stations for electric vehicles, their strategic deployment, pricing models, and user experience insights.
Key topics
History and evolution of supermarket EV charging stations
Different supermarket charging strategies and hardware
Pricing models and user incentives
Dwell time and charging speed considerations
Impact of supermarket charging on EV adoption

Key Quote:
"Supermarket charging can be surprisingly cheap"
Resources
EV Musings Podcast - https://evmusings.com
ZAPMAP - https://zap-map.com
Sainsbury's Smart Charge - https://sainsburys.co.uk
GeniePoint - https://geniepoint.co.uk
Podpoint - https://podpoint.com
MFG (Motor Fuel Group) - https://mfgplc.co.uk

The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence.
Links in the show notes:
MFG and Morrisons announce forecourts partnership and EV expansion - Motor Fuel Group
Sainsbury's Smart Charge: A New Player in the UK EV Charging Market - The EV Musings Podcast
140 - The CPO Episode II - The EV Musings Podcast

Episode produced by Arran Sheppard at Urban Podcasts: https://www.urbanpodcasts.co.uk
(C) 2019-2026 Gary Comerford
Support me:
Patreon Link: http://www.patreon.com/evmusings
Ko-fi Link: http://www.ko-fi.com/evmusings
The Books:
'So, you've gone electric?' on Amazon : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07Q5JVF1X
'So, you've gone renewable?’ on Amazon : https://amzn.to/3LXvIck
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Mentioned in this episode:
Zapmap
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence. Zapmap is free to download and use, with subscription plans for enhanced features such as using Zapmap in-car on CarPlay or Android Auto, and discounted charging across thousands of charge points.

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Zapmap EV Guide

In this episode of the show Gary discusses the true costs associated with electric vehicles and debunks common myths surrounding their affordability.
He highlights the CODE Report indicating that many consumers are deterred from purchasing EVs due to perceived high upfront costs, limited range, and expensive battery replacements.
However, he presents data showing that the majority of EV owners actually save money over time, especially those with home charging capabilities. The conversation emphasizes the importance of education in changing public perception about EV pricing and ownership.
Takeaways
Expensive upfront costs deter many from choosing EVs.
Limited range and battery replacement costs are common concerns.
Education is crucial in countering misconceptions about EVs.
80% of people save money by switching to EVs.
Home charging significantly increases savings with EVs.
Public charging costs can affect overall savings.
Used EVs often provide better value than ICE vehicles.
Many consumers have never driven an electric vehicle.
The cost of running an EV is significantly lower than ICE cars.
Pre-registered EVs can be found at substantial discounts.
Key Sound bite
"The average saving is £5,850 with an EV."
Chapters
00:00 The Cost of Electric Vehicles: An Overview
05:09 Understanding Savings with Electric Vehicles
07:02 CODE Quotes
08:01 What do other sources say
11:22 Debunking Myths: Education on EV Costs
12:41 Recent pricing Examples
15:16 Dealer Preregistrations
16:28 Conclusion: The Future of EV Affordability
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence.
Links in the show notes:
The Cost of Driving Electric (CODE) Report
Petrol and diesel buying intent rises despite BEV growth | EY - UK
Average range of new electric cars now 300 miles | Electrifying.com

Episode produced by Arran Sheppard at Urban Podcasts: https://www.urbanpodcasts.co.uk
(C) 2019-2026 Gary Comerford
Support me:
Patreon Link: http://www.patreon.com/evmusings
Ko-fi Link: http://www.ko-fi.com/evmusings
The Books:
'So, you've gone electric?' on Amazon : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07Q5JVF1X
'So, you've gone renewable?’ on Amazon : https://amzn.to/3LXvIck
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Mentioned in this episode:
Zapmap
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence. Zapmap is free to download and use, with subscription plans for enhanced features such as using Zapmap in-car on CarPlay or Android Auto, and discounted charging across thousands of charge points.

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Zapmap EV Guide

In this conversation, Gary interviews Marcus Berger, CEO of Aviloo, about the importance of battery health diagnostics in the electric vehicle market. They discuss the evolution of Aviloo, the significance of understanding battery health, and the various factors that affect it.
Marcus explains the differences between Aviloo's testing methods and those of competitors, emphasizing the need for independent assessments. The conversation also covers the mechanics of the Aviloo testing process, pricing models for B2B and B2C services, and the comprehensive nature of the Aviloo battery certificate.
They conclude with insights on the future of battery diagnostics and the importance of safety checks in the EV industry.
Takeaways:
Avilo is a market leader in EV battery diagnostics.
Battery health is crucial for determining the value of used EVs.
Different charging habits significantly impact battery health.
Independent testing provides more accurate battery health assessments.
The Avilo Flash Test allows quick battery health checks.
Consumers can access Avilo's testing services through a web shop.
Battery certificates include detailed health metrics and benchmarks.
Data from over half a million tests informs battery health insights.
Battery safety checks should be part of annual vehicle inspections.
Investing in battery health checks is essential for used EV buyers.
Guest Details:
I have been in leading positions of several highly reputable Real Estate companies for more than 20 years. Amongst others, I was MD of an institutional Real Estate Investment funds, COO of the worlds largest real estate services company. I succesfully restructured and built companies throught Central- and Eastern Europe. And then, at the age of 43 I decided to do something totally different and joined the Start Up company AVILOO as COO/CFO and shareholder. AVILOO developed a sophisticated Battery Data Platform to perform independent and objective state of health checks of second hand electric vehicles.
Marcus's Website
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence.
Episode produced by Arran Sheppard at Urban Podcasts: https://www.urbanpodcasts.co.uk
(C) 2019-2026 Gary Comerford
Support me:
Patreon Link: http://www.patreon.com/evmusings
Ko-fi Link: http://www.ko-fi.com/evmusings
The Books:
'So, you've gone electric?' on Amazon : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07Q5JVF1X
'So, you've gone renewable?’ on Amazon : https://amzn.to/3LXvIck
Social Media:
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Mentioned in this episode:
Zapmap
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence. Zapmap is free to download and use, with subscription plans for enhanced features such as using Zapmap in-car on CarPlay or Android Auto, and discounted charging across thousands of charge points.

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Zapmap EV Guide

In this episode of the podcast, Gary addresses common misconceptions and criticisms surrounding electric vehicles.
He discusses various issues such as charging time, environmental impact, running costs, long-distance travel capabilities, charging infrastructure, grid capacity, vehicle pricing, and perceptions of EVs as 'real cars'.
Throughout the conversation, he provides insights and counterarguments to these concerns, aiming to clarify the realities of owning and operating an electric vehicle.
Takeaways
Charging an EV can be done while doing other activities.
The environmental impact of EVs is less significant over time.
Running costs of EVs can be lower than petrol cars in many cases.
Long-distance travel is feasible with proper planning and infrastructure.
Charging infrastructure has improved significantly in recent years.
Grid capacity is being planned for the transition to electric vehicles.
The price of electric vehicles has decreased over time.
Perceptions of EVs as not being 'real cars' are outdated.
Public charging costs vary widely and can be managed effectively.
EVs offer a quieter and more efficient driving experience.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to EV Problems
01:02 Charging Time Concerns
01:31 They take too long to charge
03:48 Environmental Impact of EVs
04:53 Cost of Running EVs vs Petrol Cars
08:02 They can't do the distance
10:17 Charging Infrastructure Issues
15:15 Grid Capacity and Power Supply
16:11 Cars are too expensive
16:27 Cost of EVs
17:46 Perceptions of EVs as 'Real Cars'

The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence.
Links in the show notes:
Living Without a Home EV Charger: Real-World Costs and Strategies - The EV Musings Podcast
Rapid Charging prices
Leccy.net Charging Prices

Episode produced by Arran Sheppard at Urban Podcasts: https://www.urbanpodcasts.co.uk
(C) 2019-2026 Gary Comerford
Support me:
Patreon Link: http://www.patreon.com/evmusings
Ko-fi Link: http://www.ko-fi.com/evmusings
The Books:
'So, you've gone electric?' on Amazon : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07Q5JVF1X
'So, you've gone renewable?’ on Amazon : https://amzn.to/3LXvIck
Social Media:
EVMusings: Twitter https://twitter.com/MusingsEv
Instagram: @EVmusings
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