Future of Foods Interviews - Alt Proteins, Cell Agriculture, an End to Factory Farming.

In this episode of Future of Foods – Interviews, I speak with Paul Shapiro about one of the most pragmatic paths toward reducing the environmental impact of meat: biomass fungi.Rather than attempting to replace meat outright, Shapiro explains how fungal biomass, grown through fermentation, can supplement conventional meat in ways that dramatically cut cost, emissions, and resource use while preserving the sensory experience consumers expect. Drawing on his work at The Better Meat Company, he describes how mycelium, the fast-growing, protein-rich root structure of fungi, can be produced at industrial scale using existing fermentation infrastructure.A key insight from the conversation is that hybridization, not substitution, may be the fastest route to impact. By blending fungal biomass into meat products, producers can reduce reliance on animal protein without asking consumers to change behavior, taste preferences, or cooking habits. Shapiro argues that this approach avoids many of the bottlenecks facing fully plant-based or cultivated meat alternatives, particularly around cost, scale, and manufacturing complexity.The discussion also cuts through common misconceptions about fermentation-based foods. Shapiro emphasizes that biomass fungi are minimally processed, nutritionally dense, and well suited to large-scale production—making them a practical tool rather than a speculative technology. Ultimately, the episode frames biomass fungi not as a futuristic novelty, but as a quietly powerful lever for near-term change in the global food system.

Alex Crisp talks to Alice Millbank, to explore one of the most intriguing ideas in cultivated meat: using mycelium—the fibrous root network of fungi as a natural scaffold for growing meat.One of the biggest challenges in cultivated meat isn’t growing cells, but giving them structure. Muscle cells need something to attach to, align along, and mature on in order to become food with real texture. Alice’s research looks at how mycelium, which already forms complex, meat-like fibrous networks, could provide an edible, low-cost, and scalable solution.We talk about why mycelium and animal cells seem to bond so naturally, and whether that compatibility hints at a deep evolutionary relationship between fungi and animals. From shared biological pathways to surprisingly similar material properties.Alice shares insights from presenting her work at conferences like the International Symposium on Cultured Meat, and what it’s like to work at the cutting edge of cellular agriculture while the industry is still defining itself. We discuss sustainability, consumer acceptance, and what needs to happen for cultivated meat to move from the lab to the plate.If you’re curious about what a man-mushroom might look like or how likely "The Last of Us" scenario really is, then listen to this latest episode of Future of Foods Interviews

Roman Kriz, is CEO of Bene Meat Technologies, an ambitious and perhaps one of the most unconventional players in the cultivated-meat landscape. Bene Meat recently captured attention by using hamster-derived cell lines to produce affordable, scalable cultivated meat for pets - a strategy Roman says is rooted in scientific pragmatism, regulatory clarity, and a relentless focus on cost reduction.Roman breaks down why these specific cells are uniquely suited for industrial-scale production, how the company has navigated early EU regulatory pathways, and why Bene Meat is confident it will be selling cultivated meat in the European Union as early as next year.Bene Meat plans to conduct human tastings in 2026, (not #hamster lines) a bold move that signals confidence not only in safety and functionality, but in the sensory potential of their product.Roman offers transparent and frank look at the scientific decisions, business models, and unexpected breakthroughs that are bringing cultivated meat closer to everyday consumers.Please like and subscribe - you can support the podcast here https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=ABYF9L6UY3A5Y

Future of Foods Interviews speaks to Nusa Urbancic, CEO of the Changing  Markets  Foundation, where she leads investigations exposing how the meat and dairy industries deploy misleading science, aggressive lobbying and mass-online disinformation campaigns to delay action on climate, health and sustainable food systems. Her team’s landmark report, The New Merchants of Doubt, analysed 22 of the largest global meat and dairy companies and revealed how they invest far more in green-wash advertising than in emissions-reducing innovations. Under her direction the Foundation also commissioned Truth, Lies and Culture Wars, a social-listening study tracing nearly one million meat-industry-aligned misinformation posts over 14 months.Listen now to find out how, where, how much and who.

In this episode of Future of Foods Interviews, host Alex Crisp speaks with Guilhem Jarmin, Category & Portfolio Solutions Director Meat & Dairy Alternatives at Cargill, about the company’s growing role in alternative proteins and the transformation of global food systems. Guilhem shares how one of the world’s largest agribusinesses is investing in plant-based and cultivated protein innovation, partnering with startups, and rethinking supply chains to reduce environmental impact. Together, they explore what it takes for major corporations to drive a fair and scalable food transition and why collaboration between industry, science, and policy is essential for the future of sustainable protein.