The Life After Leaving Podcast: An Ex-Christadelphian Podcast

• Ep. 24 Fellowship with Mako

  Today we’re chatting with Mako! In this episode, Mako shares his experience traveling the world as a (white, male) Christadelphian before spending the years following his baptism serving in Jamaica as a missionary. After marrying his (Jamaican) wife and settling in America, his eyes were opened to racism & sexism among the Christadelphians when it became directed towards his family and as Christadelphians grappled with the Black Lives Matter movement. Mako also shares the story of how his small ecclesia split, how white Christadelphians online refused to even acknowledge racism in the Christadelphian community, and how he struggled to get distance from the Christadelphian community when they held the memorial service in his house every week! We also learn about his epic baptism, that time a Sunday School teacher crushed his dreams, and about his enduring love for the beach and ocean. Towards the end of the episode we also get philosophical as we speculate about ghosts, the Kingdom of God, and on the impact on society if everyone simply decided to “let God fix it”. Please join us for another episode of fellowship among the heathens!   Listener discretion advised.   White Savior Complex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_savior https://www.health.com/mind-body/health-diversity-inclusion/white-savior-complex   Microaggressions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microaggression https://www.npr.org/2020/06/08/872371063/microaggressions-are-a-big-deal-how-to-talk-them-out-and-when-to-walk-away   Black Lives Matter Movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter https://library.law.howard.edu/civilrightshistory/BLM https://blacklivesmatter.com/   Pascal’s wager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager#The_wager   Barbie Movie (2023) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1517268/   Mako’s exhortation on Love:  Available on our Facebook Page (too long for the show notes!)

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• Ep. 23 Fellowship with Chloe

  Today we’re chatting with Chloe! In this episode, Chloe shares her experience being raised to be homeschooled by Christadelphians and sent to a Canadian Christadelphian Heritage College before being discouraged from pursuing higher education and having to learn how to navigate the “outside world” once she hit adulthood. We also discuss mental health issues she experienced while she was a Christadelphian, how the Arranging Brothers refused to accept her resignation, and her method of using note taking to lure in a godly man. Chloe also shares her childhood ghost stories, discusses the anxious thoughts she had about the “Kingdom of God”, and opens up about the peer pressure around her baptism. We also ask, why would we ever want to be like the angels? Why is it so hard to develop close relationships as a Christadelphian? And how can we get the best roast dinner recipes now that we’ve left?    Please join us for another episode of fellowship among the Heathens!   *Please note that we had a technical difficulty about 58 minutes in which interrupted the conversation, whoops!   Listener discretion advised.    Resources and References:   Gay the Pray Away by Natalie Naudus https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/209563856-gay-the-pray-away   Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism by Amanda Montell https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55338982-cultish   Thought Terminating Cliches:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A9   https://psychology.org.au/about-us/news-and-media/aps-in-the-media/2024/explaining-thought-terminating-cliches-and-why-we   Cult Signs- Keeping Members Busy and Exhausted: “#11 Time Domination- Members are kept constantly busy to prevent independent thinking” https://blog.earkick.com/25-signs-youre-in-a-cult-how-cult-leaders-keep-you-hooked/   “If you experience pressure to take part in any (or all) services, rites or rituals, and feel it would be socially costly not to take part (i.e. you might be excluded from other things, disapproved of or left out of friendship groups), you should be concerned.” https://secularliturgies.wordpress.com/2020/02/24/the-25-signs-youre-in-a-high-control-group-or-cult-by-anastasia-somerville-wong/   Neville Goddard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Goddard   Harry Potter and Apparating: https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Apparition   History episode mentioning ‘being like the angels’: Episode 13: Hypnosis, Telepathy and Ghosts https://open.spotify.com/episode/6s3SJuLRYSk1QNWK8vY7fm?si=4d187dddb9f147e3   Ex-Christadelphian website: https://www.ex-christadelphians.com/p/ex-christadelphians-support.html   Ear Biscuits Podcast: Rhett’s Spiritual Deconstruction (2020): https://open.spotify.com/episode/7hVSkiyffPFDL5IDud26kw?si=JDtFjlrYTuafnm6fyuNOhw   Ear Biscuits Playlist on Spiritual Deconstruction: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLxmqs8vQskUbE_KnXQhA2gXmEg5dVMp3  

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• Ep. 22 Fellowship with Sylvia

  Today we’re chatting with Sylvia! In this episode, Sylvia tells us about growing up in a family that read (and debated) the Bible together every day as ‘a little hippie kid’. She discusses her ‘radical’ experience as a Christadelphian starting in the 1960’s and ‘70’s in Canada where she helped found a new ecclesia, create a new bible school, and push for women to teach. She also turned heads in her meeting when her parents approved her underage marriage to an unbaptized First Nations “outsider”. Zinnia and Sylvia also discuss how her ideas were plagiarized for exhortations, the beliefs of First Nations people, and how David is definitely the sexiest Bible character! We also speculate about what we would want to see at an Ex-Christadelphian event. Come join us for another fellowship among the heathens and to hear about the ecclesia that was created to be “just a lot more fun”! Listener discretion is advised.    Resources and References:   Sylvia’s Website: https://sylviaolsen.com/   Sylvia’s Blog: https://sylviaolsen.com/blog/   Sylvia’s Blog Post on being “The Zealot’s Daughter” https://sylviaolsen.com/2024/11/04/more-from-the-zealots-daughter-2/?fbclid=IwY2xjawI8Vk5leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHU9phq2FI6_3u1oi_vJNicsdYh5YgKL7jLVfQndNS-okYYaf0RPK_P0f2g_aem_zOKOmP6BS84u2oVdl_07cw   Christadelphian “Truth Corps” via the Christadelphian Bible Mission of the Americas and Canada https://cbma.net/the-mission-field/truth-corps/   Wrested Scriptures by Ron Abel (1990) https://www.amazon.com/Wrested-Scriptures-Christadelphian-Suggested-Explanations/dp/B000BT11GW   Christendom Astray by Robert Roberts https://www.antipas.org/pdf_files/astray.pdf   Braiding Sweet Grass by Robin Wall Kimmerer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braiding_Sweetgrass

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• Ep. 21 The History of Christadelphian Bible Prophecy with Zinnia

  In today’s episode, Zinnia does a deep dive on the history of Christadelphian “prophecies” and apocalyptic predictions! She starts with the origins of the “prophetic arithmetic” methods by a rather infamous American in the 1840’s, follows the early prophecies by John Thomas and Robert Roberts, and leads into conversations around prophecies, high control groups, and cognitive dissonance in the modern era. We also chat about aliens, people on Instagram talking about the modern feelings of doom, and some incriminating definitions around their prophetic beliefs that make the Christadelphians look more than just a little bit culty.    Ready to learn some Christadelphian history? Let’s get into it!   Listener Discretion Advised. Resources and References:   Toy Story (1995) “The Claw”:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atUUjSLMSiM   William Miller and the Great Disappointment:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment   The Great Disappointment of William Miller: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thereligioushistorynerd/2024/04/the-great-disappointment-of-willliam-miller/   Millerism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millerism   The Seekers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seekers_(rapturists)   The Theory of Cognitive Dissonance and the book “When Prophecy Fails” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails   Wikipedia: History of the Seventh-day Adventists Church: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Seventh-day_Adventist_Church#:~:text=The%20Seventh%2Dday%20Adventist%20Church%20formed%20out%20of%20the,known%20today%20as%20the%20Millerites.   More Millerite History: https://st.network/analysis/top/the-second-coming-files-a-2000-year-investigation-part-vii-adventism-after-the-great-disappointment-adventist.html https://lineagejourney.com/read/the-advent-movement-beyond-the-great-disappointment/   The Disappointed: Millerite Adventists and Their “New World” https://adventistdigitallibrary.org/features/the-disappointed   The Advent Movement Beyond the Great Disappointment:  https://lineagejourney.com/read/the-advent-movement-beyond-the-great-disappointment/   The Christadelphian Magazine/ The Ambassador of the Coming Age: January 1866, October 1893, May 1893, October 1897  https://thechristadelphianlibrary.com/category/digital-library/magazines/   John Thomas: His Friends & His Faith by Peter Hemingray https://www.amazon.com/John-Thomas-Friends-Christadelphian-Tidings/dp/B0CJSQFWF9   Joseph Marsh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Marsh_(Adventist)   Eureka: An Exposition of the Apocalypse by John Thomas https://www.antipas.org/pdf_files/eureka_vol_1_lg.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka:_An_Exposition_of_the_Apocalypse   Elpis Israel, 7th edition 1897 https://coggc.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Elpis-Israel-John-Thomas-1897.pdf   Elpis Israel with Publishers Comments (2000) https://antipas.org/pdf_files/elpis_israel_1.pdf   “My Days and My Ways” by Robert Roberts https://www.antipas.org/pdf_files/my_days_and_my_ways.pdf   “Robert Roberts: A Study of Life and Character” by Islip Collyer https://www.amazon.com/Robert-Roberts-Study-Life-Character/dp/B002IA7KJE   Whose line is it anyways “The show where everything’s made up and the points don’t matter” https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0163507/taglines/#:~:text=It's%20the%20show%20where%20everything's,the%20points%20don't%20matter!   Waiting for Godot by Samuel Beckett https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot   Christendom Astray by Robert Roberts (including Chapter 16 and the prophecy on page 271) https://www.antipas.org/pdf_files/astray.pdf   Wikipedia: ‘Christendom Astray from the Bible” “In the 1951 edition published by The Christadelphian Office, chapter 16 entitled 'Evidence that the End is Near' was deleted because the start of the millennium age did not start as predicted by 1910.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christendom_Astray_from_the_Bible   “What They Said Would Happen: A Review of Christadelphians Predictions” by John Hutchinson, January 2000  https://ed5015.tripod.com/ReligChristadelphianPredictions70.htm   Emperor Nicholas I: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_I_of_Russia   The Princess Bride (1987 ) “Have fun storming the castle!” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_Bride_(film)   World War I Timeline: https://www.loc.gov/collections/stars-and-stripes/articles-and-essays/a-world-at-war/timeline-1914-1921/#:~:text=July%2028%2C%201914,Serbia%2C%20beginning%20World%20War%20I.   Scooby Doo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooby-Doo   Godzilla: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla   Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey (Netflix) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keep_Sweet:_Pray_and_Obey   Clifford the Big Red Dog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_the_Big_Red_Dog   The Bible, Matthew 24:34:  "Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled"   Willy Wonka Golden Ticket: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Ticket   The Princess Bride (1987): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_Bride_(film) “Have fun storming the castle!”   Finding Nemo (2003) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ1KDf3O-qU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finding_Nemo   https://www.dictionary.com/browse/christadelphian Dictionary.com definition of a Christadelphian: a member of a Christian millenarian sect founded in the US about 1848, holding that only the just will enter eternal life, that the wicked will be annihilated, and that the ignorant, the unconverted, and infants will not be raised from the dead   Millenarianism: “Millenarianism is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming fundamental transformation of society, after which "all things will be changed" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism   Apocalypticism: “Apocalypticism is the religious belief that the end of the world is imminent, even within one's own lifetime” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypticism   Doomsday Cult: “A doomsday cult is a cult that believes in apocalypticism and millenarianism” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_cult   Instagram: video by abbiesr https://www.instagram.com/reel/DElSF0gv3DC/?igsh=ejExYnRsZ21kaTl2

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• Ep. 20 Bible Prophecy with Rob and Steve

  Today we’re chatting about Bible Prophecy! In this episode I’m joined by Rob, a Professor of Statistics & Statistical Forecasting, and Steve, a Professor of Biblical Studies to explore the prophecies they learned (and even taught!) from their time as Christadelphians. Now as ex-Christadelphians, we discuss what they’ve learned about history, statistics, and biblical literature to explore non-Christadelphian perspectives on some common prophecies related to the Bible and Christadelphian culture. We explore prophecies that were supported by a selective view of history, unfulfilled prophecies, and even prophecies that were wrong in the Bible! In this episode we also learn about Rob’s attempt to have his fortune told in India, Steve’s thoughts on satire in the Bible, and learn about the relationship between the Bible and Tarot Cards!  Please enjoy another week of fellowship among the heathens! Listener discretion is advised.    Resources and References:   Unbelievable: A Journey from Faith Via Evidence. Why A University Professor Gave up Religion and Became an Unbeliever by Rob Hyndman Excerpt from Rob’s Book: Chapter 8- The biblical crystal ball: https://robjhyndman.com/unbelievable/ch8.html   Eureka by John Thomas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka:_An_Exposition_of_the_Apocalypse https://www.antipas.org/pdf_files/eureka_vol_1_lg.pdf   Revelation: A Biblical Approach by Harry Whittaker 1976 https://www.amazon.com/Revelation-Biblical-Approach-H-Whittaker/dp/B007PYEBZY   The first book of Enoch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch   Fourth Book of Esdra/ 4 Ezra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Esdras   The Second Book of Baruch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Baruch   The Bible, Ezekiel 26 A Prophecy Against Tyre   National Treasure (2004) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Treasure_(film)   The Anchor Bible Series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchor_Bible_Series   The Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary: https://www.theologyandreligiononline.com/anchor-yale-bible-dictionary   The Anchor Bible Commentary: https://www.theologyandreligiononline.com/anchor-yale-bible-commentaries   International Standard Bible Encyclopedia: https://www.internationalstandardbible.com/

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