Things Bakers Know: The King Arthur Baking Podcast

We’re back with a brand-new season, and we’re celebrating with — what else? — cake!  
Specifically, the best chocolate cake in the world, as made by this episode’s guest, James Beard award-winning cookbook author Helen Goh. Helen joins the show to talk about the recipe the New York Times named the “World’s Best Chocolate Cake” (spoiler alert: her family hates it) and the power of baking to help us find more meaning in our lives and community. 
Jessica and David then dig into your cake questions, from the best way to freeze slices of cake to determining when cakes are actually done baking. As usual, Jessica brings the heat with a controversial Jess-opinion about chocolate and fruit, and the pair close out the show with the recipes they’re baking this week.  
Recipes and other links from this episode:  
Read Tamar Adler’s piece, What Does It Actually Take to Make the Best Chocolate Cake in the World?, featuring Jessica  
Bake Helen’s World’s Best Chocolate Cake  
Learn more about Helen and her cookbook, Baking and the Meaning of Life, at instagram.com/helen_goh_bakes 
Find out more about Cake4Kids and how to get involved  
Learn more: How to tell when cake is done  
What David’s baking this week: High-Hydration Whole Wheat Sourdough Bread 
What Jessica’s baking this week: French Onion Rolls 
Record your question for our Ask the Bakers segment here! 
Follow along with us on Substack  
For 25% off any On-Demand baking class, use coupon code POD25 at shop.kingarthurbaking.com/on-demand-classes 
This episode is sponsored by Supernatural. Supernatural makes imaginative baking ingredients that are colored by plants, fully traceable, and totally free from anything artificial or synthetic. Learn more at supernaturalkitchen.com

Things Bakers Know, the official podcast from King Arthur Baking Company, is back with a ten episode fourth season — starting October 5th! Join King Arthur’s Jessica Battilana and David Tamarkin as they explore every corner of the baking world. Each episode dives deep into a different baked good — its history and lore, tips and tricks, trends and takes — and they'll always leave time to answer baking questions from listeners. Along the way they chat with the best bakers in America to get their expert advice. Plus, we are on video! Things Bakers Know is available wherever you get your podcasts, and on Youtube, or by going to KingArthurBaking.com/podcast!

A new Chad Robertson venture is always a big deal, and we have all the details.  
In May, Jessica talked to the Tartine co-founder for our episode all about his bread and the enormous influence it has had on baking around the world. During that conversation, Chad talked at length about his forthcoming bakery and cafe in Brooklyn, Altbau. But those details weren’t quite ready for prime time when the episode came out. So we held that part of the conversation back — until now. Listen as Chad gives us all the delicious details about Altbau, including the story behind it, and a preview of what to expect.  
This is a bonus episode of Things Bakers Know. We’re still on a between-season break, and will be back with more episodes in the fall. Until then, follow the recipe! 
Recipes and other links from this episode:  
Listen to our full episode about Tartine, featuring Chad Robertson 
Follow Chad Robertson and his work on Instagram  
Inspired to bake? Order a sourdough starter or make your own  
This episode is sponsored by Brød & Taylor. Your best bread is within reach. Brød & Taylor builds tools that help you get there. See what's possible at brodandtaylor.com.

It’s bagel week on the show, and this time, David is bringing all the opinions.  
Together, he and Jessica discuss bagels in New York and beyond, including the burgeoning world of California-style bagels and the different styles that abound. Then, Southern California bagel maker Carlos Perez joins the show to share his perspective on West Coast bagels. Next, Jessica and David dive into your bagel-baking questions, including queries on shaping and boiling, before closing the show with a Jess-opinion about the right (and wrong) way to apply cream cheese and the recipes they’re baking this week.  
This episode marks the end of season three, and we’ll be back in the fall with more freshly baked episodes for season four! Until then, follow the recipe. 
Recipes and other links from this episode:  
Learn to make bagels in our On-Demand class, hosted by instructor Jonathan Frishtick  
Learn more about Carlos and Boil & Bake at boilbake.com 
Find our Gozney outdoor pizza ovens in our online Shop  
Pick up a bag of high-gluten flour  
Learn more about how to shape bagels  
What David’s baking this week: Small-Batch Chocolate Cupcakes  
What Jessica’s baking this week: Swirled Rhubarb Bars  
Record your question for our Ask the Bakers segment here! 
This episode is sponsored by Brød & Taylor. Your best bread is within reach. Brød & Taylor builds tools that help you get there. See what's possible at brodandtaylor.com.

Today, we’re dedicating a whole episode to a single loaf of bread. But not just any bread: the loaf from San Francisco’s Tartine bakery, which kicked off a sourdough revolution in the States.  
David and Jessica start the show by unpacking just what made Tartine and its bread so influential; together, they dig into the ways this loaf's impact continues to resonate today, plus their own personal relationships to it. Then, Jessica is joined by Tartine’s Chad Roberston, who shares his baking journey, the myriad inspirations that shaped his bread baking, and his thoughts on sourdough today. Finally, they answer some of your biggest sourdough questions before closing the show with this week’s Jess-opinion and the recipes they’re baking.  
Recipes and other links from this episode: 
Pick up a copy of Tartine Bread and Tartine No. 3 (which Jessica cowrote!)  
Follow Chad Robertson and his work on Instagram  
Inspired to bake? Order a sourdough starter or make your own  
Read Carla Lalli’s newsletter, Food Processing  
Bake our Pain de Campagne recipe  
Learn more about autolyse  
What David’s baking this week: Chocolate Sourdough Babka 
What Jessica’s baking this week: Creamy Coconut Sheet Cake  
Record your question for our Ask the Bakers segment here! 
This episode is sponsored by Brød & Taylor. Your best bread is within reach. Brød & Taylor builds tools that help you get there. See what's possible at brodandtaylor.com.