Writers With Wrinkles

What do you do when the story you can't stop thinking about doesn't fit the genre you're known for? Thriller author Dina Marie (Dina Santorelli) took a ghost, a Salem mansion, and a big risk, and ended up with a paranormal cozy mystery series.
She started with zero readers, and her first draft took four weeks. The cost of not knowing how she did it is another year of sitting on an idea that won't leave you alone. Hit play to hear what she learned, and why one very popular ghost is about to get a lot more page time.
In this episode:
The Salem vacation that was never supposed to be work, and the idea that followed
Why her first plan (a paranormal romance) changed course
The "rules" for how ghosts behave in her world
What starting over with no readers looked like, and why she waited ten months to publish
What readers told her about the character they wanted more of
The perfect "if you like X, you'll like this" comparison
A ghost story swap that went way off topic (in the best way)
Books mentioned:
Going Ghost (Salem Spirits, Book 1)
Ghost Rider (Book 2)
Grateful Ghost (Book 8, released in August)
Find Dina's books: https://www.dinamariebooks.com/
More about this episode and the blog: writerswithwrinkles.net
This is the first Confetti Club, our new segment celebrating authors and their brand-new books. Hit play, follow the show, and grab a little confetti. Then tell us which ghost story of ours creeped you out most.
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We're back in Napa, where the Writers With Wrinkles podcast was born five years ago, with a new book and a new self-publishing press for writers.
Every self-published author we've talked to says the same thing: it was a lot more complicated than they expected. We spent the last year learning why, and we want your manuscript to get out of the drawer with fewer surprises along the way.
Hit play, then visit writerswithwrinklespress.com to send your questions or book a call with us.
In this episode
Why we're celebrating in Napa, the spot where this podcast was hatched
The book: Write, Revise, Publish: Essential Lessons from the Writers With Wrinkles Podcast, out now wherever you buy books
Meet Writers With Wrinkles Press, and why we built it
The one thing everyone says after they self-publish
How to reach us, and what's next for Season 6
Links and next steps
Writers With Wrinkles Press: writerswithwrinklespress.com (ask questions or book a phone call)
Book: Write, Revise, Publish: Essential Lessons from the Writers With Wrinkles Podcast, available everywhere books are sold
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Your graphic novel isn't a novel. It's a screenplay, and editors can tell from page one whether you know the difference. First Second Books editor Ivan Taurisano explains how to write and submit a graphic novel script that gets read.
Kids ages 8 to 12 head straight for the graphic novel shelf, and prose writers are trying to follow them there. But Ivan says a submission that misses the format doesn't just earn a "not for me." It can earn a "don't send me your next one." Here's what he wants you to know before you write a single panel.
In this episode:
Why writing a graphic novel is closer to writing a screenplay than a prose novel
Revealing character through dialogue alone (no "she looked wistfully at the ocean")
Why editors talk page count, not word count, and the "70,000-word graphic novel" red flag
What to submit for a script-only project vs. an author and illustrator team: script, pitch, synopsis, and 20–30 sample pages
How much art direction is too much, and the one question to ask before you leave an art note
Why illustrators usually earn more than writers
The biggest mistake Ivan sees: art that doesn't match the audience you're pitching
Why kids who read "slightly above their level" become lifelong readers
Adult graphic novels and First Second's sister imprint, 23rd Street
Ivan's manuscript wishlist:
Middle grade graphic novels about girl friendship that capture how big those fights and bonds feel at 10, 11, and 12
Dragons
Early reader graphic novels for ages 4–7, 64–96 pages, any topic
Stories with fresh magic systems
A joyful, new take on the immigrant journey that shows the excitement, not only the hardship
Ivan's inbox (ivan.taurisano@firstsecondbooks.com) is open to agented and unagented creators, and he gives feedback when he passes. 
Books and resources mentioned:
Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud (Ivan's must-read before you write a graphic novel)
The Investigators by John Patrick Green
Dog Man by Dav Pilkey
Pizza and Taco
Narwhal and Jelly
Parachute Kids
Tuck Everlasting (graphic novel adaptation)
Clara and the Devil
How to Catch Santa Claus (How to Catch series)
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
Hit play, then grab a graphic novel for the age group you want to write for. Follow Writers With Wrinkles so you don't miss our next Ask Beth and Lisa episode, and send us your questions!
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We just turned 150+ episodes of hard-won publishing wisdom into one book — and it's finally here. Write, Revise, Publish: Essential Lessons from the Writers With Wrinkles Podcast is up for pre-order now, and today Beth and Lisa are pulling back the curtain on why they wrote it, what's inside, and how it can save you from making the same missteps they did.
If you've ever finished a podcast episode thinking "that's such a good tip" — and then completely forgotten it by the next day — this book is the fix. Beth and Lisa gathered the best insight from over five years and 150+ conversations with agents, editors, and authors, organized it by where you are in your process (first draft through published book), and added end-of-chapter worksheets so you can actually use it, not just read it. Plus: they're launching a brand-new segment called the Confetti Club, where debut and new-release authors get the mic to pitch their own books — no interview pressure, just celebration.
In this episode:
The cover reveal for their new book, Write, Revise, Publish: Essential Lessons from the Writers With Wrinkles Podcast
Why they built the book around 150+ episodes of guest wisdom instead of just their own opinions
How the book is organized so there's a spot for you whether you're drafting, revising, querying, or publishing
The personal (and often embarrassing) asides from Beth and Lisa woven into every chapter
End-of-chapter worksheets designed to turn the book into a practical writing tool, not just a read
Introducing the Confetti Club — a new short-form segment spotlighting authors with books releasing within 30 days
Who's lined up for the first three Confetti Club episodes
A teaser for a third big announcement — coming next month
Release date, pre-order details, and (of course) a Taylor Swift tangent
Pre-order Write, Revise, Publish on Amazon now — it releases in ebook and paperback on October 6th. And if you've got a book coming out in the next 30 days, keep an eye out: the Confetti Club wants to celebrate you too.
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Harry Potter didn't just create a fantasy phenomenon — according to one Big Five editor, it quietly helped break middle grade publishing. Every book that tried to chase that success got longer, older, and harder for actual kids to read, and now imprints are shutting down because of it.
In this encore episode, literary agent, bestselling children's author, and founder of At-Home Author Vicki Weber breaks down what's really happening in publishing right now — the layoffs, the imprint closures, and why "everybody's throwing spaghetti at the wall." Then she gets tactical: her #1 piece of advice for authors in the query trenches (hint: it's not "wait for The One agent"), how to read between the lines of an agent's wishlist, and why chasing a "dream agent" is quietly sabotaging your confidence.
In this episode:
The real story behind Vicki's viral Substack post on the state of middle grade
The "Harry Potter theory" — how one runaway bestseller reshaped an entire category
Why editors loving your book is only the beginning, not the end, of acquisitions
Vicki's #1 tip for querying authors: write another book (and why the process isn't a straight line)
How to research an agent's actual taste, not just their stated genres
Why "my dream agent passed" is the wrong way to think about rejection
Self-publishing vs. traditional: how to decide which is right for your book
What to do about a "bad" sales track record (and how to reframe it)
Simple, low-cost ways to build an email list and audience before you're published
Vicki's current manuscript wishlist: horror-tinged, commercial, with social commentary
We had a new guest lined up for this week, but a family emergency meant we had to reschedule — so we're bringing back one of our favorite conversations instead.
Find Vicki's Substack and more show links in the notes at writerswithwrinkles.net.
Hit play and let's get to it!
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Ready to turn your manuscript into a published book? Writers With Wrinkles Press handles editing, cover design, formatting, and distribution, and you keep 100% of your royalties. Visit WritersWithWrinklesPress.com and write CONFETTI on your submission to get $500 off your publishing package. Your book. Your moment. Let's make it a celebration.
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