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The legend that is Sara Bareilles joins us to talk about ‘Good Grief,’ her first album in seven years, and the new documentary of the same name. She opens up about navigating some incredibly difficult years, and the tenderness, humor and humility she’s found along the way. During that time, she’s said goodbye to several close friends while also embarking on IVF, and she’s open in her music — and in person — about the complicated emotions that can accompany the path to parenthood. The documentary captures the intimate recording of the album in Woodstock, NY, with her close collaborators, alongside incredibly candid conversations exploring many of the same themes. She also discusses the story behind the song “Home,” which was inspired by a podcast conversation between Anderson Cooper and Stephen Colbert about Colbert losing his father and two brothers when he was just 10 years old.

Sara also looks back at the songs and projects that have shaped her career, from “Gravity” and “Brave” to “Love Song”; the origins of ‘Waitress’ and what writing musical theater taught her about collaboration; and her connection to poet and activist Andrea Gibson, both in song and through the documentary ‘Come See Me in the Good Light.’ Kelsey pops in to go deep on Sara’s hilarious Netflix show ‘Girls5eva,’ and Sara leaves us with some real food for thought: the idea at the heart of ‘Good Grief’ is that the life you have isn’t somewhere else waiting for you — you have to wake up to the one you’re already living.

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Owen Thiele has stories for days. We could have kept him chin-wagging on the couch for another hour, but the actor, podcaster, and all around hilarious human stopped by primarily to talk about the hotly anticipated second season of ‘Adults,’ which, by the way, blows season 1 out of the water.

We discuss the show in-depth, working with his now-bestie castmates and the arc of Anton’s story, not to mention the entrance of Raven Symone as his sister (and the cultural importance of ‘That’s So Raven.’ But then things get really good: there’s talk of peptides, SoulCyle sharting, his fascinating childhood and family history — from his adoption story, to his mom as his best bud, to his star-studded LA high school — and just what is going on with his in-development series ‘Off Color’ based on his real life. And of course we get into his podcast, ‘In Your Dreams’ (Alex Cooper made him do it), his long-term love with iconic stylist-to-the-stars Jared, staying friends with exes, going to NYU with Timothée Chalamet, appearing in an Almay commercial as Rashida Jones’ assistant, and so much more.

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Maia Reficco and Fernando Lindez join us to discuss their new Prime Video romance ‘The Last Sunrise,’ based on the novel by Anna Todd. Maia stars as Ry, a college student living with a chronic illness who heads to Mallorca with her protective mother, played by Eva Longoria, and unexpectedly falls for local Julián, played by Fernando. Maia comes to the film after starring in ‘Pretty Little Liars: Original Sin’ and making her mark on Broadway in ‘Hadestown,’ while Spanish actor and model Fernando brings a very different path to the couch — from being discovered in the background of a friend’s Instagram photo at 18 to opening a Versace show in Milan.

They talk about their bad first impressions to building a genuine closeness while filming in Mallorca, intimacy coordination, the logistics of Fernando’s nude scene, (and his love of nude beaches!), and what it was like having Eva Longoria play Maia’s mom. They also unpack the film’s bigger ideas about romance, family, and how fleeting life can be.

Plus, Maia talks about her Argentine identity, her Nickelodeon past, meeting Lionel Messi, and the importance of queer representation and queer characters existing without being tokenized. Fernando opens up about playing a gay character in ‘Elite,’ the loneliness and relentlessness of his early modeling years, and why Julián might be more like him than he expected.

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At just 19 years old, Chino Pacas has already released three LPs: 'Que Sigan Llegando las Pacas' (2024), 'CRISTIAN' (2025), and now 'QSLLP V2' — a record inspired in part by John Wick. His music is yet another reason why corridos are going global and reaching new, younger audiences. He joins us on the couch for the first time to talk about his beginnings in Mexico, the essential influence of his brother Turo, moving to Florida, going viral on TikTok, and getting discovered and signed by JOP. Oh, and then there was that lil’ collab with Drake.

Plus, he discusses collaborating with FLVCKKA, wanting to experiment with bachata and cumbia — and eventually record in English — how he wound up buying a fan a Louis Vuitton bag, why “gorditas is my thing,” and so much more.

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After having Nick and Chris on the show over the years we finally bag Matt who has something he’s super proud to talk about: his memoir ‘What Happened Yesterday.’ The 23-year-old opens up about growing up as a triplet with Nick and Chris and the complicated process of figuring out who he is outside of his brothers after spending much of their lives having practically identical experiences. Plus, how the three have learned to create together while building increasingly independent lives.

Primarily though, his memoir is a candid portrayal of his experiences living with debilitating anxiety, his mental health and medication journey, not to mention therapy. He discusses the loss of his grandad, family issues, panic attacks, and how writing has become an outlet and a boon.

We also discuss the adrenaline rush of the Sturniolo Triplets’ rapid YouTube success, social media and public perception, and why he wants to talk openly about mental health while keeping some parts of his life — including his relationships — completely private. Oh! And his utter lack of FOMO, why Nick still can’t drive, Dunkin’ vs. Starbucks, asking Madison Beer for memoir-writing advice, and so much more.

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