Answer the Call | Christian Career Coaching

Does God actually care about the work you do?

In this episode, I’m joined by my friend Jinsoo for one of the most honest and theologically rich conversations we’ve had on the show.

Jinsoo brings a rare perspective shaped by both marketplace leadership and formal theological training, and together we explore what Scripture actually says about work, calling, confusion, and faithfulness. 

We discuss:
Why the divide between “ministry” and “marketplace” work is a false one

How free will and God’s sovereignty work together in career decisions

Why faithfulness doesn’t always mean “sucking it up” or staying stuck

How ANY job can participate in God’s kingdom

The 5 Ps of calling

If you’ve ever felt guilty for not working in ministry, confused by career discontentment, or unsure whether your job matters to God at all, this conversation might change how you see your work.

Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp

RESOURCES MENTIONED:
Every Good Endeavor by Timothy Keller

Garden City by John Mark Comer

God’s Plans, Your Plans | A sermon by Timothy Keller

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Free Training: How to Find and Land a Job You Feel Called to in 8 Straightforward Steps → https://thecalledcareer.com/our-process

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TIME STAMPS
03:42 – Ministry vs Marketplace: Where the Tension Comes From
07:14 – Why “Secular” Work Has Felt Spiritually Lesser
10:38 – Creation, Fall, Redemption, Restoration (A Biblical Framework for Work)
16:35 – Does All Our Work Just Burn Up in the End?
21:25 – Two Extremes Christians Believe About Work
35:22 – Burnout, Endurance, and Being a Child of God First
40:55 – How Any Job Can Serve the Kingdom of God
45:27 – The Five Ps of Calling
53:26 – Why Confusion Can Be God’s Gift

Does God actually care about your business and the work you’re doing?

In this client success story, Audrey sits down with Hannah to share what shifted when she realized that God doesn’t just care about her. He cares about her business too.

When Hannah first came into coaching, she was overwhelmed and unsure whether her ideas could become something sustainable. She was working hard, juggling too many ideas at once, and quietly questioning if her niche even mattered. Without clear direction, the emotional weight of building started to add up.

I know many founders feel this way. We hope this episode becomes a reminder that building a business doesn’t mean carrying everything alone. God cares about the details: the decisions, the doubts, the timing, and when we invite Him into our work honestly, it changes how we build.

Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp & Audrey Bagarus

CONNECT WITH HANNAH:
🌍 Website / https://www.thebusybunhead.com
📸  Instagram / https://www.instagram.com/thebusybunhead/

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Free Training: How to Find and Land a Job You Feel Called to in 8 Straightforward Steps → https://thecalledcareer.com/our-process

More of a reader? ⁠Download the 22 page PDF⁠ version instead → https://thecalledcareer.mykajabi.com/PDF

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🎙 Spotify Podcast / https://open.spotify.com/show/5QpGj7lkYYHaZAkLM27R1F
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TIME STAMPS
04:45 – The Fear That Her Business Idea Was Too Small
09:05 – Separating What You’re Good At From What You’re Called To Do
11:40 – How Clarity Changed Her Confidence as a Founder
14:05 – Learning to Invite God Into Business Decisions
16:20 – The Power of Praying Specifically About Your Work
18:55 – Letting Go of Control and Trusting God With Outcomes
22:05 – Why Simplifying Her Business Changed Everything
25:05 – Navigating Emotional Highs and Lows as a Founder
28:10 – “I Get to Do This”: A Healthier Way to Build
34:30 – Encouragement for Anyone Building a Business
37:20 – Where to Find Hannah and Her Work

In this episode, I share the full testimony of my two year journey through infertility.

In this episode, I share what the waiting season was really like: the confusion, the questions, the tears, and all the ways God quietly and patiently reshaped my heart along the way.

In this episode, I talk about:
How God changed my heart toward motherhood and children

Why infertility challenged my faith in ways I’m grateful for

Advice for couples trying to conceive

What actually WORKED and what didn’t

How to ENJOY life while still waiting on God

How this season reshaped my view of vocation, calling, and surrender

What’s next for me and the future of The Called Career

My prayer is that this episode encourages you, gives language to feelings you might not have known how to name, and reminds you that God is still working, even when the answer hasn’t come yet.

And if this resonates with you, or if you’re in need of prayer, please don’t hesitate to reach out. 🤍

Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp

BOOK A FREE CALL WITH US THIS WEEK:
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FREE CAREER COACHING RESOURCES:
Free Training: How to Find and Land a Job You Feel Called to in 8 Straightforward Steps → https://thecalledcareer.com/our-process

More of a reader? ⁠Download the 22 page PDF⁠ version instead → https://thecalledcareer.mykajabi.com/PDF

FOLLOW US ON OTHER SOCIALS:
🌍  Website / https://thecalledcareer.com/
📸  Instagram / https://www.instagram.com/kelsey_thecalledcareer/
👨‍💻  Linkedin / https://www.linkedin.com/company/thecalledcareer
🎙 Spotify Podcast / https://open.spotify.com/show/5QpGj7lkYYHaZAkLM27R1F
🎙 Apple Podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/answer-the-call-christian-career-coaching/id1468014993
📱 Pinterest / https://www.pinterest.com/thecalledcareer/

TIME STAMPS
01:50 – Why I’m sharing this story on a career podcast
03:53 – How God changed my heart toward motherhood
07:19 – Worldly views vs. biblical views of children
26:48 – Surgery, endometriosis, and healing
32:03 – Why I chose restorative fertility care (NaPro)
33:14 – The pregnancy test moment
39:38 – First trimester vulnerability and faith
43:54 – What DIDN’T work (fertility teas, ads, myths)
49:58 – How I learned to enjoy the waiting season
59:30 – Trusting God’s plan for motherhood
1:02:04 – Maternity leave plan & future of The Called Career

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! 

We’re so grateful to be closing out the year with a huge milestone – our 250th podcast episode! Truly, praise be to Jesus for giving us the strength and consistency to keep showing up every week.

With the year coming to a close, we’re sitting down for an honest (and very exciting!!!) year in review, reflecting on everything this past year held for The Called Career and for us personally. From big answered prayers to unexpected challenges, we’re sharing the highs, the hard parts, and everything in between.

We discuss:
The bold goals we set at the start of the year and how they actually turned out

Audrey’s relationship update! 👀

Kelsey's BIG personal announcement!!!! 

The behind-the-scenes business struggles we experienced

Books, Scripture, and lessons that carries us through the highs and lows

What we’re prayerfully hoping for as we step into the next year

From the bottom of our hearts, thank you for being part of this community and for walking with us through another year. 

Every download, share, comment, and message has meant the world to us. You’ve been with us through the highs, the challenges, and everything in between, and we’re so grateful for your continued support, encouragement, and energy as we look ahead to all that the Lord has in store.

With gratitude,
Kelsey Kemp & Audrey Bagarus

BOOK A FREE CALL WITH US THIS WEEK:
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FREE CAREER COACHING RESOURCES:
Free Training: How to Find and Land a Job You Feel Called to in 8 Straightforward Steps → https://thecalledcareer.com/our-process

More of a reader? ⁠Download the 22 page PDF⁠ version instead → https://thecalledcareer.mykajabi.com/PDF

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🎙 Spotify Podcast / https://open.spotify.com/show/5QpGj7lkYYHaZAkLM27R1F
🎙 Apple Podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/answer-the-call-christian-career-coaching/id1468014993
📱 Pinterest / https://www.pinterest.com/thecalledcareer/

TIME STAMPS
01:19 – Reflecting on last year’s goals
02:21 – Audrey’s relationship update 👀
03:12 – Pregnancy announcement and fertility journey!
05:53 – How relationships change ambition, identity, and work
10:49 – The “10x revenue” goal and what actually happened
13:48 – Paid ads, money lost, and behind-the-scenes business struggles
22:44 – Knowing when to stop pushing and choose peace
35:56 – Devotion vs. discipline, faith lessons, and hopes for the year ahead

Sometimes, the career “change” isn’t drastic, and that’s okay.

In this client success story, Audrey sits down with Ethan, an engineer who felt stuck and unsure about his career but knew a dramatic change wasn’t realistic. With a wife, 3 young kids, and financial responsibilities, quitting everything or starting over wasn’t an option.

Audrey and Ethan discuss:
Why a career change does not always need to be drastic to be meaningful

How Christian beliefs about calling and work can affect career decisions

The pressure many professionals feel to make a big leap and why it is often unnecessary

How informational interviews help build confidence and direction

Learning to trust God’s redirection even when the path looks different than expected

If you’re feeling stuck or pressured to make a drastic move and need reassurance that meaningful career change can happen without starting over, this is for you.

Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp & Audrey Bagarus

BOOK A FREE CALL WITH US THIS WEEK:
https://portal.kelseykemp.com/public/appointment-scheduler/6222458612c06afee1de0032/schedule

FREE CAREER COACHING RESOURCES:
Free Training: How to Find and Land a Job You Feel Called to in 8 Straightforward Steps → https://thecalledcareer.com/our-process

More of a reader? ⁠Download the 22 page PDF⁠ version instead → https://thecalledcareer.mykajabi.com/PDF

FOLLOW US ON OTHER SOCIALS:
🌍  Website / https://thecalledcareer.com/
📸  Instagram / https://www.instagram.com/kelsey_thecalledcareer/
👨‍💻  Linkedin / https://www.linkedin.com/company/thecalledcareer
🎙 Spotify Podcast / https://open.spotify.com/show/5QpGj7lkYYHaZAkLM27R1F
🎙 Apple Podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/answer-the-call-christian-career-coaching/id1468014993
📱 Pinterest / https://www.pinterest.com/thecalledcareer/

TIME STAMPS
01:07 From Career Uncertainty to an Internal Pivot
01:47 Feeling Stuck and Not Knowing Where to Start
03:33 Is It Okay for Christians to Want Job Fulfillment?
05:25 Letting Go of the Myth of the Perfect Job
06:41 How Family Responsibilities Shape Career Decisions
09:03 Using Informational Interviews to Find Clarity
15:06 When a Career Interest Becomes a Side Ministry
20:32 Why a Small Career Pivot Can Change Everything
31:20 Encouragement for Job Seekers Who Feel Stuck