#199 - Michael Grunwald on What Regenerative Beef Gets Wrong (and Alt Proteins Might Get Right)
Journalist and author Michael Grunwald joins Eat For The Planet for a provocative conversation about land use, climate truth-telling, and why regenerative beef might not be the climate solution it claims to be.
We dig into the uncomfortable tradeoffs most people ignore in food system debates—from the myths of “local and organic” to the surprising upsides of high-yield industrial farming. Grunwald, known for his sharp reporting and systems-level analysis, explains why sparing land—not just using it better—is the key to solving food and climate. We also talk about alternative proteins, bad science in food policy, and why fear of food tech might be holding back progress.
If you’ve ever wondered whether your “sustainable” burger is helping or hurting, this episode will challenge what you think you know.
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#198 - The Third Wave of Plant-Based: Kerry Song on Wellness, Cravings, and the Middle Path
Is plant-based food dying—or detoxing?
In this episode, Kerry Song, founder and CEO of Abbot’s, returns to Eat For The Planet to unpack what she sees as the third wave of plant-based eating. We explore why consumers are walking away from ultra-processed mimicry, how trust is rebuilt through clean labels and transparency, and why the real opportunity lies in the space between imitation and compromise.
Kerry shares what she’s learned from building a wellness-driven brand in a hype-driven category—and why satisfaction, simplicity, and real food are the future.
This is a conversation about food, culture, trust—and the rise of the middle path.
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#197 - Nature’s Fynd: Reimagining Protein in a Post-Agriculture World
What if food didn’t have to come from animals—or even plants? In this episode, Nil Zacharias sits down with Thomas Jonas, CEO and co-founder of Nature’s Fynd, to explore the origins of Fy, a microbial protein discovered in a Yellowstone hot spring that’s grown through fermentation without soil, sunlight, or traditional agriculture.
They discuss the company’s unconventional path, why they stayed quiet while others chased the hype, and how Fy is powering a new category of food—from dairy-free cream cheese to meatless breakfast patties.
It’s a conversation about building what comes after agriculture, the future of protein as a platform, and how to stay focused when the rest of the industry loses its way.
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#196 - Ethan Brown's Fight to Reclaim the Beyond Meat Story
Ethan Brown returns to Eat For The Planet eight years after his first appearance for a raw and timely conversation about what it means to lead Beyond Meat through public scrutiny, shifting consumer narratives, and a changing food landscape.
We talk about the limits of frictionless adoption, the company’s strategic reset, and why storytelling is now central to Beyond’s mission. Ethan shares what he’s learned from adversity, how he draws strength from history, and why he still believes plant-based meat can transform the plate—and the planet.
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#195 - Default Settings, Radical Outcomes: Katie Cantrell and the Quiet Power of Institutional Change
Katie Cantrell, co-founder of Greener by Default, joins the Eat For The Planet Podcast to explore how subtle changes in choice architecture—like making plant-based meals the default—can drive massive impact across institutional food systems. From working with Sodexo to scaling plant-forward menus in hospitals, Katie unpacks the behavioral science behind her nonprofit’s work, reflects on what she’s learned from years of advocacy, and makes the case for why quiet change can be the most powerful kind.
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