Nap Trapped

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Dummies Anonymous is in session. Bec is team dummy. She can count the number of times she's ditched a dummy in less than two hands over twelve years. So when we made the active choice to drop the dummy for a five and a half month old halfway through the second week of Camp Snooze, it warranted a debrief.

This little one came to us after previous sleep training. He still had very short naps, very short breastfeeds and lengthy resettling sessions overnight. The unique bit was that he was taking almost a day's worth of calories overnight. We kept the dummy at first because it helped stretch those overnight feeds while we shifted calories into the day. Then we'd get great nights followed by crazy town all over again, with the dummy replugged over and over. One Monday morning we both read the sleep log and thought the same thing. The dummy's gotta go.

What You'll Learn:
- Why we're far more inclined to keep the dummy from eight months and why it's a hard no at 14 months
- What keeping the dummy realistically looks like overnight if your baby can't replace it yet
- How we redistribute calories without doing anything cold turkey
- Why a lot of sleep work is throwing informed spaghetti at the wall, then a process of elimination
- How object permanence at six months gives you a window to keep or drop the dummy
- Keeping the dummy for naps while dropping it overnight
- Why it's not linear and why we work over two weeks

Chapters:
00:00 Happy Nap Trap Day
02:00 Dummies Anonymous is in session
08:09 Back to the case study
15:56 The dummy's gotta go
23:04 Use the tools available to you
32:25 Off to replug some more dummies

ABOUT
Nap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre). We're two sleep consultants who organise sleep, read a lot of sleep logs and work in collaboration with families so you understand exactly why you're doing what you're doing. Almost a hundred babies have come through Camp Snooze this year. If you want a 2026 spot, jump in quick.

Links:
Sally Woods, The Sleep Concierge on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/
Bec Maher, The Sleep Centre on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/
Nap Trapped website: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

Happy Sleep Detectives Day to all who celebrate. Bec held all the power this week. Sally hadn't seen a single question, and we worked through five cases straight from our question box.

We start with the big one: what's the first thing you'd change if everything was all over the place? We both said feeds and environment. Snap. You'll hear about the $18 blackout hack a client's dad built from Bunnings with black core flute and Velcro dots. Sally also tells us about the Hong Kong hotel blinds behind some of the best sleeps of her life.

Then we get into an 11 week old in the no man's land of baby sleep and an 18 month old stuck on an hour and a half nap. There's also a 19 month old awake for an hour and a half overnight (listeners will know Bec hates split nights). We finish on whether you rescue naps once you've dropped to one.

Lots of cases solved. Lots of nap homework given.

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WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
- Why we'd start with feeds and environment when everything feels all over the place
- How to get the room nine to ten out of ten dark, even if it doesn't look pretty
- The one sleep association we'd steer clear of at 11 weeks, and why the rest are okay to get the nap done
- How the delay delay method helps an 18 month old link sleep cycles, and how long to give it before you reassess
- What's usually behind a so called split night and how to become so boring there's nothing worth waking for
- Why rescuing naps for two to three days after dropping to one is a sideways step, not a backwards one

CHAPTERS
00:00 Happy Sleep Detectives Day
02:09 Feeds and environment first
10:18 Eleven weeks, no man's land
19:01 Stretching the toddler nap
27:51 Split nights at 19 months
37:37 Rescuing the one nap

ABOUT NAP TRAPPED
We're Sally Woods from The Sleep Concierge and Bec Maher from The Sleep Centre. Every week we bring you realistic, evidence-based baby and toddler sleep advice in plain language. No empty promises and no rod for your own back, just a lot of sleep detective work. Keep your eyes peeled on our socials for the next Sleep Detectives question box, and feel free to DM us or comment a question.

LINKS
Sally on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/
Bec on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/
Website: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

A mum on TikTok put it perfectly: maybe mums who sleep train don't want their baby to cry. For us that's not controversial at all. It's the take that needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

Sally stumbled across the video and commented straight away: yes, yes, yes, this is what I hear from families daily. Her five and a half month old was waking every one to two hours, needing so many cuddles and crying with every settle. After a week of sleep training with five minute time checks, he rolls his head from side to side and goes off to sleep. He's doing a seven hour stretch, waking happier and crying less than he did in all the months she spent trying to avoid tears.

We get into why everyone is crying when nobody's sleeping and why the families we work with have already done all the rocking, cuddling and co-sleeping. Bec explains productive tears (and the polyester trousers that had her crying in her car at lunchtime). We also share a Camp Snooze ten month old who needed to be woken at 7am this week, and why no one can tell you exactly how long your baby will cry.

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What You'll Learn:
- Why some mums sleep train because they don't want their baby to cry
- Why sleep training doesn't stop night wakings and what changes instead
- What we mean by productive tears and how they're different from the crying you're already living with every night
- Why rocking, cuddling and co-sleeping work for some babies and not for others
- Why no one can tell you exactly how long your baby will cry

Chapters:
00:00 Back in the couch room
06:41 The controversial take
16:28 A whole comment section
20:37 Productive tears and the suit queen
25:24 They've done all these things
31:22 Everyone be nice

ABOUT
We're Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre). Nap Trapped is our baby sleep podcast: evidence-based sleep support in plain language for tired parents, with real families, real sleep logs and realistic expectations.

Links:
Sally on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/
Bec on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/*thesleepcentre/
The TikTok we talk about (@rachannie*): https://www.tiktok.com/@rachannie_/video/7692235165585935636

Happy Sleep Detectives Day to all who celebrate! We open the Nap Trapped question box and answer your real-life baby sleep questions, from mum versus dad at bedtime to a 23 month old who's started climbing out of the cot. And a mum from our Spotify comments wrote back to tell us her twelve month old has slept through the night two nights straight, one and a half weeks into night weaning and modified Ferber. Case solved. Case closed.

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What You'll Learn:
- Why babies settle differently for mum and dad and how to get both of you confidently resettling
- How to avoid feeding to resettle when it isn't feed time
- When we start waking babies from naps and why a consistent 7am start matters so much
- Why we move a one year old off wake windows and onto a clock-based schedule
- How to handle daycare naps and extra night wakes in those first few weeks
- How much teething really disrupts sleep and how to tell teething from habit or regression
- How long to stay on the transitional schedule and why early rising is rarely a sign to drop a nap
- How to hold onto three naps at seven months and whether settling time gets added onto a capped nap
- What to try before you move a cot climber into a big bed

Chapters:
00:00 Case solved, case closed
03:10 Mum, dad and resettling
11:46 Waking babies and clock schedules
23:29 Daycare naps and teething
35:48 Holding steady on naps
46:08 The lucky last cot climber

ABOUT
Nap Trapped is the baby sleep podcast hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre). We're two sleep consultants who work with real families every day, giving you evidence-based advice in plain language. On Sleep Detectives we answer your questions and solve your sleep crimes, one case at a time. Hold steady.

Links:
Sally Woods, The Sleep Concierge, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/
Bec Maher, The Sleep Centre, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/
Nap Trapped: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

Welcome back to part two of our 100th episode with That Sleep Doc, Dr Sujay Kansagra. He's a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University and the inventor of the Lullabee smart crib mattress. This half is where Bec finally gets to ask about a real bugbear of hers, low sleep needs, and Sally asks Sujay to diagnose her. We get into what actually decides how much sleep our babies need, why six hours of naps won't give you a twelve hour night, whether overtiredness is really a thing and how Sujay copes with the trolls in his comment section. Then it's a very slow fast five, the Lullabee versus the Snoo and the biscuit question we promised you.

Missed part one? Listen here: https://www.naptrappedpodcast.com/p/ep-100-what-is-sleep-training-that-sleep-doc

Subscribe and catch every episode at www.naptrappedpodcast.com

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
- Why genetics set our sleep needs and how rare truly low sleep needs are
- Why a low sleep needs label doesn't mean you can't improve sleep
- How stacking too much day sleep can look like low sleep needs
- What the science does and doesn't say about overtiredness
- Why toddlers get wired, not sleepy, when they're short on sleep
- Sujay's take on Wonder Weeks, swaddling, melatonin gummies and sleep consultants
- How the Lullabee weans itself out and why it's the polar opposite of the Snoo

CHAPTERS
00:00 Welcome back, Nap Trappers
00:20 Bec's bugbear: low sleep needs
11:16 Is overtiredness real?
21:06 Trolls and the comment section
28:57 A very slow fast five
36:18 We're a good team

ABOUT NAP TRAPPED
We're Sally Woods from The Sleep Concierge and Bec Maher from The Sleep Centre. Nap Trapped is our baby sleep podcast for tired, time-poor parents who want evidence-based answers in plain language, with realistic expectations and no empty promises.

ABOUT DR SUJAY KANSAGRA
Sujay is a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University, aka That Sleep Doc, and the inventor of the Lullabee smart crib mattress.

LINKS
Sally (The Sleep Concierge) on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/
Bec (The Sleep Centre) on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/
Part one: https://www.naptrappedpodcast.com/p/ep-100-what-is-sleep-training-that-sleep-doc
Dr Sujay Kansagra on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatsleepdoc/
Dr Sujay Kansagra on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thatsleepdoc
Dr Sujay Kansagra website: https://linktr.ee/thatsleepdoc
Dr Sujay Kansagra on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thatsleepdoc