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  • On The Trail

    Imitation, Identity, Intimacy (Ch 6 | Rare Leadership) | S4E56

    05/10/2026 | 30 mins.
    How can we be intentional about noticing and imitating people with maturity skills we need to strengthen? How do we "practice the presence of God"? What's the difference between an Identity Group and an Accountability Group?
    This episode looks at Chapter Six "Where You Start: Imitation, Identity, Intimacy" and builds the framework we'll use for the rest of the series to put what we're learning into practice. We're talking about mirror neurons, intimacy with God, heart-focused communities, and more!
    The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God.
    The book Rare Leadership by Marcus Warner & Jim Wilder combines theology, brain science, and decades of counseling and consulting experience to equip you to cultivate maturity in yourself and others, develop strong group identity, keep relationships bigger than problems, and more! Over the course of this series, we'll be unpacking the four habits of a rare leader: Remain relational. Act like yourself. Return to joy. Endure hardship well.
    Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links. 
    📕 Rare Leadership BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/
    🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE
    💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/
    🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/
    📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast
    💚 HEART-FOCUSED COMMUNITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/heart-focused-community-course/
    ⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/
    Go Deeper:
    🎧 Jumpstart Your Prayer Life: S4E28 - "The Two Notebook Approach to Prayer" https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/28-the-two-notebook-approach-to-prayer-jumpstart-your-prayer-life-part-5-s4e28/
    🎧 Building Bounce: S4E40 - "Connecting with God" https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/40-connecting-with-god-building-bounce-ch-8-s4e40/
    Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God! 
    Chapters -
    00:00 Hope Together Recap
    00:47 Rare Leadership: Theory vs. Practice
    4:29 Imitation of Maturity Skills
    12:07 Intimacy with God
    22:30 Identity Groups vs. Accountability Groups
    27:54 Where Is Your Current Growth Edge?
  • On The Trail

    Don't Take Your Eye Off the Fast Track (Ch 5 | Rare Leadership) | S4E55

    28/09/2026 | 28 mins.
    When you know who you are, you get results.
    In leadership, many think almost exclusively in terms of getting results. Results do matter, and there's no getting around that in leadership. But chapter five of Rare Leadership argues that our top priority should be our culture and then from there we pursue results. Who are we as a group, as a company? How is it like us to act? People who focus only on results and not on culture often end up creating toxic environments motivated by fear.
    This week we're looking at the difference between management and leadership, how to build identity and belonging that shape culture, what maturity has to do with community building, and more.
    The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God.
    The book Rare Leadership by Marcus Warner & Jim Wilder combines theology, brain science, and decades of counseling and consulting experience to equip you to cultivate maturity in yourself and others, develop strong group identity, keep relationships bigger than problems, and more! Over the course of this series, we'll be unpacking the four habits of a rare leader: Remain relational. Act like yourself. Return to joy. Endure hardship well.
    Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links. 
    📕 Rare Leadership BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/
    🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE
    💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/
    🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/
    📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast
    💛 HOPE TOGETHER CONFERENCE: https://hopetogether.com/deeperwalk/
    Go Deeper:
    🫡 Rare Leadership BOOT CAMP: https://deeperwalk.com/churches/rare-leadership-boot-camp/
    💚 HEART-FOCUSED COMMUNITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/heart-focused-community-course/
    ⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/
    Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God! 
    Chapters -
    00:00 Happy Birthday Ben! & Hope Together Conference
    2:23 Chapter 5: Results vs. Culture
    8:30 Management vs. Leadership
    12:14 Building Identity
    15:30 Building Belonging
    18:27 How Has Culture Led to Better Results?
    21:05 Community Builders & Maturity
    25:57 Start Where You're At
  • On The Trail

    When the Fast Track Needs Fixing (Ch 4 | Rare Leadership) | S4E54

    21/09/2026 | 28 mins.
    Fear controls us when we avoid emotions we can't handle.
    What makes communities toxic, and how do we foster healthier, more resilient communities?
     
    In this episode, we continue to unpack how the "Slow Track" and "Fast Track" in the brain influence leadership and relational dynamics and how this all affects toxicity in a group. And if the Slow Track is by nature Slower than the Fast Track, what hope do we have of changing it? As we unpack Chapter 4, learn how to recognize warning signs that the Fast Track needs fixing, the dangers of isolation, motivating with joy vs. with fear, the consequences of avoiding negative emotions, and more!
     
    The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God.
     
    The book Rare Leadership by Marcus Warner & Jim Wilder combines theology, brain science, and decades of counseling and consulting experience to equip you to cultivate maturity in yourself and others, develop strong group identity, keep relationships bigger than problems, and more! Over the course of this series, we'll be unpacking the four habits of a rare leader: Remain relational. Act like yourself. Return to joy. Endure hardship well.
     
    Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links. 
     
    📕 Rare Leadership BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/
    🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE
    🫡 Rare Leadership BOOT CAMP: https://deeperwalk.com/churches/rare-leadership-boot-camp/
    ⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/
    💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/
    🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/
    📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast
     
    Go Deeper:
    🎧 S3E12 - This Is Your Brain On Fear - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/12-this-is-your-brain-on-fear/
    🎧 S3E13 - Do You Have A Fear Bond With God? - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/13-do-you-have-a-fear-bond-with-god/
     
    Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God! 
     
    Chapters -
    00:00 Happy Autumn! Happy Hobbit Day (Week)!
    1:43 Fast Track & Slow Track
    3:27 Toxic Community & Fast Track
    3:56 Consequences of Avoiding Negative Emotions
    9:35 How to Spot Warning Signs
    15:09 Healing vs. Skills Training
    17:09 The Dangers of Isolation
    19:51 Motivating with Fear vs. Joy
    25:18 Fellowship & Hope for Facing Problems
  • On The Trail

    The Elevator in Your Brain (Ch 3 | Rare Leadership) | S4E53

    14/09/2026 | 30 mins.
    Good news! You can build your emotional competence.
    God designed our brains to run on the fuel of joy, and we have the ability to grow our capacity for joy as long as we live.
    In this episode, we're in Chapter Three: The Elevator in Your Brain where we look at Jesus Christ as a wonderful example of emotional competence and then unpack the four levels of the Joy Elevator. When these functions are working properly, everything else about how we operate goes more smoothly.
    So, let us walk you through the Attachment Center, the Assessment Center, the Attunement Center, and the Action/Identity Center in your brain. How does it all flow together and lead to more emotional competence?
     
    The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God.
     
    The book Rare Leadership by Marcus Warner & Jim Wilder combines theology, brain science, and decades of counseling and consulting experience to equip you to cultivate maturity in yourself and others, develop strong group identity, keep relationships bigger than problems, and more! Over the course of this series, we'll be unpacking the four habits of a rare leader: Remain relational. Act like yourself. Return to joy. Endure hardship well.
     
    Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links. 
     
    📕 Rare Leadership BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/
    🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE
    🫡 Rare Leadership BOOT CAMP: https://deeperwalk.com/churches/rare-leadership-boot-camp/
    ⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/
    💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/
    🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/
    📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast
     
    Go Deeper:
    🎧 S3E11 - Your Brain Runs On Joy - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/11-your-brain-runs-on-joy/
    🎧 S4E35 - A Basic Brain Model (Building Bounce: Ch 3) - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/35-a-basic-brain-model-building-bounce-ch-3-s4e35/
     
    Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God! 
     
    Chapters -
    00:00 Welcome, We're in Chapter Three!
    1:04 Spiritual Growth & Brain Science
    5:54 The Joy Elevator in the Brain
    7:53 Attachment & Craving
    11:15 Assessment: Good, Bad, Scary
    16:16 Attunement & Mutual Mind
    20:22 Action, Identity, & Joy
    25:52 Enemy Mode in the Brain
    28:34 This Makes Communication Easier
  • On The Trail

    The Difference Between RARE Leaders & Sandbox Leaders (Ch 2 | Rare Leadership) | S4E52

    07/09/2026 | 31 mins.
    Immaturity is rampant in our culture, is it not? But it doesn't have to stay this way.
    In this episode, we discuss the difference between mature and immature leadership, the importance of IDENTITY + BELONGING = TRANSFORMATION, and how to build cultures that produce results through joy rather than fear.
    Celebrating Ten Years of Rare Leadership!
    Since its release in 2016, this book has equipped leaders, organizations, households, and more across the world with increasing trust, joy, and engagement in the people they lead. This fall we're journeying through Rare Leadership as our book study series on the podcast.
    The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God.
    Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links. 
     
    📕 Rare Leadership BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/
    🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE
    🫡 Rare Leadership BOOT CAMP: https://deeperwalk.com/churches/rare-leadership-boot-camp/
    ⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/
    💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/
    🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/
    📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast
     
    Go Deeper:
    🎧 S1E59 - Attachment Based Identity (Part 1) - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/59-attachment-based-identity-part-1/
    🎧 S2E19 - The Broken Discipleship Factory (Series Compilation) - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/19-the-broken-discipleship-factory-series-compilation/
     
    Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God! 
     
    Chapters -
    00:00 Ten Years of Rare Leadership!
    2:53 Sandbox Leaders & Immaturity
    7:40 What is maturity from a brain science pov?
    9:28 Super Chickens or Predator Chickens?
    11:39 Leadership that Leads to Transformation
    15:47 Identity & Belonging
    20:52 Flipping the Culture
    23:44 Group Identity & Individual Identity
    26:16 When Accountability Works, It's Because...
    29:26 Coaches You Love to Follow
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About On The Trail
Stay On the Trail toward a Deeper Walk with God with father-daughter duo Marcus & Stephanie Warner. Listen in on conversations about important models and concepts that inform the way we live the Christian life. We’ll talk philosophy, theology, and practical issues related to heart-focused discipleship.
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