Pushing The Limits

div]:bg-bg-000/50 [&_pre>div]:border-0.5 [&_pre>div]:border-border-400 [&_.ignore-pre-bg>div]:bg-transparent [&_.standard-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pl-2 [&_.standard-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,ul,ol,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pr-8 [&_.progressive-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pl-2 [&_.progressive-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,ul,ol,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pr-8"> _*]:min-w-0 gap-3 standard-markdown"> Your immune system isn't just fighting off colds. It's the foundational system that influences all 14 hallmarks of aging — and when it declines, everything downstream accelerates.
In this episode, I sit down with Courtney Van Bussum, COO of Longevity Launch Labs, to dive deep into immunosenescence — the aging of the immune system — and why it starts far earlier than most people realise. We unpack what Stanford's landmark 1000 Immunomes Project revealed about the real driver of biological aging, why your supplement stack might be missing the most important piece, and how we built Re:juvenate Pro (Cell Restore in the US) to target immune aging at its root.
We get into the fire station analogy that makes the immune system finally make sense, why 70-80% of your immune system lives in your gut and what that means for barrier health, the science behind four synergistic ingredients — Immune Defense Protein, Immunel colostrum extract, carnosic acid from NZ rosemary, and kawakawa — and why standard colostrum supplements aren't cutting it.
We also cover why NSAIDs are impairing your recovery, what CXCL9 is and why most practitioners have never heard of it, Isobel's lymphocyte count recovery story, the immune age calculator app, and why "boost your immune system" is the wrong approach — modulation is everything.
This is not another colostrum product. This is upstream immune intervention.
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What if you could know 20 YEARS before symptoms appear whether you're heading for Alzheimer's? And what if there was a proven way to reverse early cognitive decline?
In this episode, I sit down with my dear friend Dr. Dave Jenkins — the leading Dr. Dale Bredesen Protocol practitioner in the Southern Hemisphere — to unpack the p-Tau 217 blood test revolution and the stunning results from Bredesen's latest randomised controlled trial.
Dr. Dave breaks down how a simple finger-prick blood test can now detect the Alzheimer's process with 95% certainty up to TWO DECADES before memory symptoms begin. This isn't diagnosing Alzheimer's — it's diagnosing the process, which means you have 20 years to intervene.
We dive into Bredesen's 2024 multi-site RCT showing the ReCODE precision medicine protocol is 6–7x MORE POWERFUL than the best Alzheimer's drug currently available in America (lecanemab) — a drug with devastating side effects including brain bleeds and even death.
Dr. Dave shares real clinical insights from his Bali longevity practice including the 30–60 "holes in the roof" driving cognitive decline, cutting-edge peptides (Semax, Selank, Cerebrolysin, Dihexa), bioregulators, and his personal experience with Klotho gene therapy that took his memory scores from the 70th to the 97th percentile in just 6 weeks.
This is essential listening for anyone with a family history of Alzheimer's, anyone watching a loved one decline, and anyone who wants to take brain health seriously BEFORE it becomes a crisis.
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🧠 IN THIS EPISODE:
✅ The p-Tau 217 blood test — detect Alzheimer's 20 years early
✅ Bredesen's RCT: 6–7x more powerful than lecanemab
✅ The BrainScan panel: p-Tau 217, NfL, GFAP explained
✅ Why amyloid drugs chase the smoke, not the fire
✅ The 30–60 "holes in the roof" driving cognitive decline
✅ APOE4 genetics — who needs to pay attention
✅ Peptides for brain health (Semax, Selank, Cerebrolysin, Dihexa)
✅ Klotho gene therapy — 70th to 97th percentile memory scores
✅ Dr. Dave's Bali longevity program at Ravivo Resorts
✅ How NZ/AU listeners can access testing remotely
🔗 CONNECT WITH DR. DAVE JENKINS:
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🌐 endalzheimers.com.au
🔗 RESOURCES MENTIONED:
🧬 BrainScan p-Tau 217 Test — neurocode.com
🧠 Dr. Dale Bredesen / Apollo Health — apollohealthco.com
📄 Bredesen 2025 RCT — apollohealthco.com/rct-2025
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The global healthcare system is heading for a catastrophic workforce shortage — 10 to 15 million workers short by 2030. In this episode, financial analyst and Tesla expert Cern Basher (@cernbasher) returns to break down how humanoid robots like Tesla's Optimus could be the only scalable solution, why New Zealand is uniquely positioned to lead a healthcare robotics pilot, and what the Terafab chip factory and Digital Optimus mean for the timeline.
From fleet learning to the privacy concerns, from Moxy robots already in 25+ US hospitals to Elon Musk's vision of billions of robots powered by space-based AI — this is the conversation that healthcare, tech, and policy leaders need to be having right now.
IN THIS EPISODE:
The global healthcare workforce crisis — why no recruitment drive can fix it
Robots already in hospitals: Moxy's 1M+ deliveries across 25 US hospitals
Tesla Optimus: where the technology is right now
The three components: physical body, AI brain, and language model
Fleet learning explained — 40 robots learn in 6 months what takes a human 25 years
Why New Zealand is the ideal proving ground for healthcare robotics
Digital Optimus and Macrohard: the software robot that runs businesses
Terafab: Tesla's $25B chip factory with SpaceX and xAI
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ABOUT CERN BASHER:
NZ-born financial analyst and one of the most influential voices on X at the intersection of AI, Bitcoin, Tesla, and macroeconomics.
Follow Cern: @cernbasher on X and YouTube
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🔬 This episode is sponsored by MitoSynergy Copper 1+
Most copper supplements use poorly absorbed oxidised forms that can actually increase free radical damage. MitoSynergy's patented BioCopper1 (Cunermuspir) is a copper-niacin chelate that delivers reduced copper (Cu1+) directly to your mitochondria, supporting ATP production at cytochrome c oxidase. I've been personally testing MitoActivator EX and have noticed a real difference in training power and energy output.
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New Zealand has a once-in-a-generation opportunity to position itself at the front of the humanoid robotics revolution — but nobody's talking about the real safety, privacy and cybersecurity concerns. In this video I break down why NZ should be aggressively pursuing Tesla and robotics in healthcare, the genuine risks around humanoid robots in personal spaces, and why the countries that get involved early don't just get the economic upside — they get to write the rules.
🎯 IN THIS VIDEO:
→ Why NZ could transform its economy with robotics in healthcare
→ The 5 real safety concerns about humanoid robots in personal spaces
→ Physical safety: the fall problem and force-limiting technology
→ Cybersecurity: what happens when someone hacks a walking camera
→ Privacy: the robot secretly sending data to China every 5 minutes
→ The teleoperation problem — strangers controlling robots in your home
→ Why there are NO safety standards yet for home robots
→ How NZ can shape global robotics regulation instead of inheriting it
→ The healthcare pilot approach: why hospitals first, homes later
→ First-mover advantage: NZ as the proving ground for humanoid robots
📺 RELATED EPISODES:
→ AI Just Broke The Economy — Cern Basher Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh0hKibH6Zs
→ Tesla's Building A Robot Army — Cern Basher Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh0hKibH6Zs
→ Why Tesla, Bitcoin & AI Are Moving Together — Cern Basher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzRPBLa2_Do&t=9s
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Wall Street veteran and macro investor Jordi Visser spent 30 years managing billions in risk — building turbulence models to predict market crashes before they happened. Then he turned that exact same framework on his own biology. The result? He raised his HRV from the high 20s to the 60s over six years. Not with a protocol. With a system.
Jordi is back on Pushing The Limits for round two and this episode covers everything. We go deep on HRV and longevity — what your wearable is actually telling you, why your gut health is the foundation of your HRV, why breathwork beats meditation, why muscle is a signal organ not just a performance tool, and how to use AI as a daily thinking partner to accelerate your health journey.
Then we flip to macro. Jordi breaks down why he believes capitalism's 10,000 year bargain between capital and labour officially broke in 2025, why Bitcoin is the architectural blueprint for what comes next, why AI agents cannot operate without crypto infrastructure, and what the Strait of Hormuz crisis means for oil, commodities and your investments right now.
We also get into the AI revolution and what it means for ordinary people — why entrepreneurs will beat Google, why you don't need to be technical to benefit from AI, how to build multiple income streams using these tools, and why leaning in now is the most empowering thing you can do for your financial future.
This is one of the most wide ranging conversations we have ever had on Pushing The Limits. Health, wealth, technology and the future — all connected by the same framework.
Topics covered include heart rate variability, HRV and longevity, resonance frequency breathing, the gut brain vagus nerve axis, muscle and ageing, fermented foods and the microbiome, AI tools for entrepreneurs, Bitcoin 2026, macro investing, the private credit crisis, Strait of Hormuz oil shock, commodities bull market, hardware stocks and why 2008 can never happen again.
Find Jordi Visser at visserjhrv.substack.com for his HRV Substack and visserlabs.substack.com for his macro AI and Bitcoin research. His YouTube channel is at youtube.com/@JordiVisserlabs and he heads AI Macro Nexus Research at 22V Research.
Find out more about Lisa and her work at lisatamati.com. Shop longevity supplements including Re:juvenate Pro at shop.lisatamati.com. Re:juvenate Pro is Aevum Labs flagship longevity formula targeting immunosenescence, inflammageing, gut health and cellular repair — co-developed with Dr Elizabeth Yurth of the Boulder Longevity Institute. Learn more at aevumlabs.co.nz.
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