Rock N Roll Story Guys

Brian and Murdock answer letters and break down the stories behind a handful of BIG songs and the women they are - or ARE NOT - about...
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SHOW NOTES:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/867-5309/Jenny
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/867-5309-jenny/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clover_(band)
https://www.amazon.com/867-5309-Jenny-Song-That-Saved/dp/1936185555#:~:text=Alex%20also%20wrote%20or%20co,Johnny%20and%20the%20Asbury%20Dukes.
https://www.sherrirosen.com/blog/2011/08/04/interview-with-alex-call-of-867-5309-jenny-the-song-that-saved-me/
https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/entertainment/local/2012/04/30/local-history-there-is-no/10606260007/
https://www.lmtribune.com/a_and_e/whatever-happened-to-jenny-from-tommy-tutones-famed-song/article_5441726a-4d0e-54ea-83e8-b58e2ba70852.html
1982 People Magazine: https://web.archive.org/web/20090604142927/http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20082266,00.html
https://musicinfluence.com/rock-and-roll-tales/who-owns-867-5309/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimclash/2020/01/14/remember-867-5309-who-was-jenny-we-chat-with-tommy-tutone/?sh=1b8547e532a0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_White_T%27s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_That_We_Needed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fearless_Records
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/heres-the-actual-story-behind-hey-there-delilah
https://bachelornation.com/2020/04/14/plain-white-ts-tom-higgenson-hey-there-delilah-backstory-bachelor-happy-hour/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_Lotta_Rosie
https://jessefinkbooks.com/blog/f/the-first-photo-of-acdcs-rosie
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Brian and Murdock make an effort to talk about more of the women in rock when they answer a letter adressing the rumor that Hole's Live Through This was ghostwritten by... a man.
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SHOW NOTES:
https://rulefortytwo.com/secret-rock-knowledge/chapter-7/did-kurt-cobain-write-live-through-this/
https://www.factinate.com/people/facts-courtney-love
https://www.biography.com/musicians/courtney-love
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtney_Love
https://www.encyclopedia.com/people/literature-and-arts/music-popular-and-jazz-biographies/courtney-love
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-moment-kurt-cobain-met-courtney-love/
https://www.nickiswift.com/787746/a-complete-timeline-of-courtney-love-and-kurt-cobains-relationship
https://www.themarysue.com/holes-live-through-this-turns-30-courtney-love-kurt-cobain-rumors-explained
https://www.thatericalper.com/2025/02/06/5-surprising-facts-about-holes-live-through-this
https://rulefortytwo.com/secret-rock-knowledge/chapter-7/did-kurt-cobain-write-live-through-this
https://www.lyndsanity.com/music/looking-back-at-holes-live-through-this-25-years-later
https://www.nme.com/news/music/courtney-love-244-1400512
https://youtu.be/stNpkzN7F48?si=V6OTz5OI9vhMh2YG
(Courtney fronting Faith No More begins at 55.44
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Brian and Murdock head north to talk about British royalty and determined songwriters - and what may or may not have happened when a couple of them collided.
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SHOW NOTES:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Adams
The song “Diana”: https://soundcloud.com/user158960977/bryan-adams-diana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Vallance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Leave_Me_Lonely
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67675453
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_(Bryan_Adams_song)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_of_Prince_Charles_and_Lady_Diana_Spencer
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bryan-adams-meeting-diana-one-111155797.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_watched_television_broadcasts_in_the_United_Kingdom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Fagan
http://www.jimvallance.com/01-music-folder/songs-folder-may-27/pg-song-adams-diana.html
https://www.smh.com.au/world/diana-had-affair-with-singer-20031106-gdhqb2.html
https://www.imdb.com/news/ni62109552/
https://abcnews.com/GMA/Culture/singer-bryan-adams-responds-rumors-princess-diana-relationship/story?id=56198910
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecilie_Thomsen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Burrell
https://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/24/diana.suitors/index.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/ToddintheShadow/comments/190zfmy/cancon_or_other_country_equivalents/
https://ca.billboard.com/business/streaming/crtc-cancon-hearings
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A letter about the legacy of "Stairway to Heaven" leads Brian and Murdock to the story of unsung guitar hero Randy California, his band, and the break that never fully broke for him.
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SHOW NOTES:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_California
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Grove_(music_club)
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2021-02-09/ed-pearl-dead-ash-grove
https://www.facebook.com/TheCollegeOfRockAndRollKnowledge/posts/today-we-are-remembering-the-late-randy-californiarandy-california-who-was-born-/2676305559076803/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Cassidy
http://randycaliforniaandspirit.com/biography/
https://www.masterguitarschool.com/post/cognitive-dissonance-incarnated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny%27s_Music
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chas_Chandler
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/09/813763864/led-zeppelin-wins-copyright-dispute-over-stairway-to-heaven
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_(band)
https://recordcollectormag.com/articles/spirit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stairway_to_Heaven
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_(instrumental)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Hopkins#Other_groups
https://www.loudersound.com/bands-artists/spirit-randy-california-mark-andes
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2019-classic-rock-riffs-loophole/
https://www.musicologize.com/stairway-taurus-discussion/
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-9th-circuit/1955114.html
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Brian and Murdock take on a letter from a listener wanting all the details on what happened when a certain jam-adjacent band drove around in the Windy City in the summer of '04.
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SHOW NOTES:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Matthews_Band_bus_incident
https://travsd.wordpress.com/2017/11/27/seven-psychedelic-buses/
https://mmbandservices.co.uk/a-journey-through-the-evolution-of-tour-buses-and-sleeper-bus-technology
https://www.udiscovermusic.com/in-depth-features/road-works-life-on-the-road-made-music-matter/
https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/rock-and-roll-tours/
Tour the Grateful Dead bus: https://youtu.be/5Xf6dtFuY48?si=Yxbn8wgcMsmJj_Zd
Reddit thread on tour bus life: https://www.reddit.com/r/TouringMusicians/comments/1nsie5s/first_tour_bus_tour_advice/
How does the toilet work on a bus? https://www.facebook.com/motorcoachworld/videos/how-does-the-toilet-work-on-the-bus/303098401554938/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_(waste)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_Valley_Music_Theatre
https://www.tiktok.com/@motorcoachlife/video/7166643048066059563
https://www.reddit.com/r/DMB/comments/14yxzaq/anyone_else_curious_about_the_logistics_of_a_dmb/
https://backstagebus.com/profile/stefan-wohl
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/08/08/dave-matthews-band-bus-chicago/
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