Rock N Roll Story Guys

In a first for the show, Brian welcomes fellow rock n roll podcasters Lorin Kozlowski (Roach Koach) and Josh Toomey (Primer 55, Talk Toomey, The David Ellefson Show) to gamify a discussion of the great rock n roll songs that tackle the topic of America.

Listen to the Songs About America Draft Playlist

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Brian and Murdock explore the story behind session legend (and former Steely Dan/Doobie Brothers multi-instrumentalist) Jeff "Skunk" Baxter and his associations with NASA and other government-related organizations. And then they end up talking about... aliens.
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SHOW NOTES:
https://strat-talk.com/threads/jeff-%E2%80%9Cskunk%E2%80%9D-baxter-how%E2%80%99d-he-get-the-nickname.566440/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic
https://simonwarner.substack.com/p/rock-stories-6-jeff-skunk-baxter
https://www.mmone.org/jeff-skunk-baxter/
Beato interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLT9LUVcISg&t=4705s
Corgan interview:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steely_Dan
https://outsidethebeltway.com/skunk_baxter_former_doobie_brother_counterterror_advisor/
https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/music/doobie-brother-jeff-skunk-baxter-on-how-he-became-a-missile-defence-expert/article_45f41923-c660-5a21-8ea7-47dab4f525a9.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-9_Sidewinder
https://www.guitarplayer.com/guitarists/can-you-make-it-more-green-jeff-skunk-baxter-recalls-his-strangest-studio-sessions-from-steely-dan-to-dolly-parton
https://x.com/ExpandingDan/status/1749508536072065291
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/how-steely-dan-jeff-skunk-baxter-became-a-missile-defence-expert
Really, No Really (Jason Alexander) Podcast: https://youtu.be/_blc89zsndc?si=Z2wecEFYryGHd7WD
https://www.ihmc.us/groups/jbaxter/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_May#Scientific_career
https://www.independent.co.uk/space/ufo-tom-delonge-blink-182-aliens-are-real-b2385824.html
The Tom was Right T-shirt: https://tothestars.media/products/tom-was-right-t-shirt-black-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_DeLonge
https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/tom-delonge-ufo-timeline-8071145/
https://listverse.com/2024/12/03/10-musicians-who-have-other-jobs/
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Brian and Murdock answer letters and break down the stories behind a handful of BIG songs and the women they are - or ARE NOT - about...
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SHOW NOTES:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/867-5309/Jenny
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/867-5309-jenny/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clover_(band)
https://www.amazon.com/867-5309-Jenny-Song-That-Saved/dp/1936185555#:~:text=Alex%20also%20wrote%20or%20co,Johnny%20and%20the%20Asbury%20Dukes.
https://www.sherrirosen.com/blog/2011/08/04/interview-with-alex-call-of-867-5309-jenny-the-song-that-saved-me/
https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/entertainment/local/2012/04/30/local-history-there-is-no/10606260007/
https://www.lmtribune.com/a_and_e/whatever-happened-to-jenny-from-tommy-tutones-famed-song/article_5441726a-4d0e-54ea-83e8-b58e2ba70852.html
1982 People Magazine: https://web.archive.org/web/20090604142927/http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20082266,00.html
https://musicinfluence.com/rock-and-roll-tales/who-owns-867-5309/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimclash/2020/01/14/remember-867-5309-who-was-jenny-we-chat-with-tommy-tutone/?sh=1b8547e532a0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_White_T%27s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_That_We_Needed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fearless_Records
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/heres-the-actual-story-behind-hey-there-delilah
https://bachelornation.com/2020/04/14/plain-white-ts-tom-higgenson-hey-there-delilah-backstory-bachelor-happy-hour/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_Lotta_Rosie
https://jessefinkbooks.com/blog/f/the-first-photo-of-acdcs-rosie
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Brian and Murdock make an effort to talk about more of the women in rock when they answer a letter adressing the rumor that Hole's Live Through This was ghostwritten by... a man.
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SHOW NOTES:
https://rulefortytwo.com/secret-rock-knowledge/chapter-7/did-kurt-cobain-write-live-through-this/
https://www.factinate.com/people/facts-courtney-love
https://www.biography.com/musicians/courtney-love
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtney_Love
https://www.encyclopedia.com/people/literature-and-arts/music-popular-and-jazz-biographies/courtney-love
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-moment-kurt-cobain-met-courtney-love/
https://www.nickiswift.com/787746/a-complete-timeline-of-courtney-love-and-kurt-cobains-relationship
https://www.themarysue.com/holes-live-through-this-turns-30-courtney-love-kurt-cobain-rumors-explained
https://www.thatericalper.com/2025/02/06/5-surprising-facts-about-holes-live-through-this
https://rulefortytwo.com/secret-rock-knowledge/chapter-7/did-kurt-cobain-write-live-through-this
https://www.lyndsanity.com/music/looking-back-at-holes-live-through-this-25-years-later
https://www.nme.com/news/music/courtney-love-244-1400512
https://youtu.be/stNpkzN7F48?si=V6OTz5OI9vhMh2YG
(Courtney fronting Faith No More begins at 55.44
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Brian and Murdock head north to talk about British royalty and determined songwriters - and what may or may not have happened when a couple of them collided.
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SHOW NOTES:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Adams
The song “Diana”: https://soundcloud.com/user158960977/bryan-adams-diana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Vallance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Leave_Me_Lonely
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67675453
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_(Bryan_Adams_song)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_of_Prince_Charles_and_Lady_Diana_Spencer
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bryan-adams-meeting-diana-one-111155797.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_watched_television_broadcasts_in_the_United_Kingdom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Fagan
http://www.jimvallance.com/01-music-folder/songs-folder-may-27/pg-song-adams-diana.html
https://www.smh.com.au/world/diana-had-affair-with-singer-20031106-gdhqb2.html
https://www.imdb.com/news/ni62109552/
https://abcnews.com/GMA/Culture/singer-bryan-adams-responds-rumors-princess-diana-relationship/story?id=56198910
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecilie_Thomsen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Burrell
https://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/24/diana.suitors/index.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/ToddintheShadow/comments/190zfmy/cancon_or_other_country_equivalents/
https://ca.billboard.com/business/streaming/crtc-cancon-hearings
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