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  • Ep. 25: Bridging Public and Private Asset Recovery
    In this episode, Aidan speaks with Carmel King, Partner at Grant Thornton UK, about the role of insolvency practitioners and liquidators in recovering assets lost to fraud and financial crime, especially in the context of digital assets. They discuss how these powers work alongside law enforcement efforts and why collaboration, trust, and clear communication between the public and private sectors are key to delivering better outcomes for victims. Want to go deeper? Join our upcoming webinar, ‘Closing the Asset Recovery Gap’, on 14th October at 2pm UK | 9am EDT, where former law enforcement professionals draw on their cross-sector experience to explore how civil recovery routes work alongside law enforcement and how specialised technology platforms are strengthening coordination across sectors. Timestamps00:00 – Introduction and Background 04:00 – The Hidden Powers of Liquidators 09:00 – Bridging Public and Private Sector Efforts 16:00 – Real-World Cases & Lessons Learned 24:00 – Tackling Law Enforcement & Victim Challenges 30:00 – Crypto Recovery: Success Stories & Civil Routes 38:00 – Navigating Jurisdictional & Valuation Hurdles 45:00 – The Future of Asset Recovery & Collaboration About our Guest Carmel King is a Partner at Grant Thornton UK, where she leads the digital asset recovery team. With extensive experience in insolvency and asset recovery, Carmel specialises in combating financial crime and recovering assets for victims. Her work often involves collaboration with law enforcement and private sector professionals to navigate the complexities of cross-border asset recovery and the evolving landscape of crypto assets.Key Takeaways Insolvency as a Recovery Tool: Insolvency and liquidation powers provide a unique mechanism to recover assets lost to fraud, complementing traditional law enforcement efforts. Collaboration Between Public and Private Sectors: Effective asset recovery relies on coordination between law enforcement, investigators, and private practitioners to overcome legal, technical, and operational challenges. Digital Asset Challenges: Cryptocurrencies and other digital assets introduce new complexities, requiring specialised approaches to trace, value, and recover funds. Preventing Re‑Victimisation: Awareness and education are critical to protect victims from fraudulent recovery schemes and ensure fair outcomes. Evolving Landscape of Asset Recovery: Case studies and ongoing developments illustrate how the field is constantly changing, highlighting the importance of innovation, technology, and co‑operation. Resources Mentioned Crypto Fraud and Asset Recovery Network (CFAAR) Grant Thornton UK Met Police | Two people convicted following world's largest crypto seizure Stay Connected Dive deeper into the world of asset recovery by subscribing to Seize & Desist.Disclaimer Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed. Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
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  • Ep. 24: Asset Recovery in a Digital-First World
    In this conversation, Aidan Larkin sits down with Dr. Max Bernt (TaxBit) to explore the future of asset recovery in a digital-first world. They dive into how data aggregation, crypto, and stablecoins are transforming investigations - and why practitioners have reason for optimism. Timestamps00:00 – Introduction and Background 04:00 – Inside the Digital Asset Recovery Ecosystem 09:48 – How TaxBit Bridges On-Chain and Off-Chain Data 16:00 – Real-World Cases & Lessons Learned 27:50 – Tackling Data Challenges & Regulatory Hurdles 32:09 – Stablecoins: Risks and Opportunities 40:49 – The Future of Financial Crime Investigations 51:03 – Why There’s Reason for Optimism in Recovery About our Guest Dr. Max Bernt is TaxBit’s Global Head of Regulatory Affairs and Managing Director for Europe. With a robust background in transnational criminal law and extensive experience in regulatory affairs, he advises on cases and policy involving cryptocurrency, financial crime, and digital asset recovery. Max has helped shape discussions around the intersection of law enforcement and crypto, exploring how data aggregation, stablecoins, and regulatory frameworks impact investigations and compliance. Key Takeaways Evolving Asset Recovery Ecosystem: Technology is driving the evolution of the asset recovery ecosystem, creating new tools and approaches for practitioners. Importance of Data Aggregation: Effective investigations rely on robust data aggregation, helping practitioners identify patterns and trace assets efficiently. Bridging On-Chain and Off-Chain Data: TaxBit serves as a critical bridge between on- and off-chain data, enabling more accurate and comprehensive investigations. Impact of Regulatory Changes: Shifting regulations will have a significant effect on financial crime investigations, requiring practitioners to adapt strategies accordingly. Opportunities and Challenges of Stablecoins: Stablecoins present both opportunities and challenges for investigators, influencing how digital assets are tracked and recovered. Optimism for the Future of Asset Recovery: Despite the challenges, practitioners can be optimistic about future advancements, including improved efficiency, technology, and collaboration in the field. Resources Mentioned Taxbit Stay Connected Dive deeper into the world of asset recovery by subscribing to Seize & Desist: https://link.cohostpodcasting.com/b36b929c-6ca3-4e49-8258-44c310d012c9?d=sG5Qi2MdL DisclaimerOur podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed. Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
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  • Ep. 23: What You Don’t Know About Crypto Crime
    In this conversation, Aidan Larkin sits down with Alison Jimenez, President of Dynamic Securities Analytics and AML expert witness, to unpack the realities of crypto crime, the challenges it poses for asset recovery, and the risks surrounding strategic Bitcoin reserves. They explore how digital assets are used for illicit purposes, why a common industry definition matters, the critical role of the asset recovery ecosystem, and how geopolitical tensions can expose vulnerabilities in decentralized systems. Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction and Background 00:30 – Defining Crypto Crime 00:59 – Asset Recovery Ecosystem 01:12 – Strategic Reserves and Security Risks 18:26 – Crypto's Role in Illicit Activities 28:58 – Analysing Crypto Crime Metrics About our Guest Alison Jimenez is the President of Dynamic Securities Analytics and an AML expert witness. As a former securities regulator and economist, she advises on financial crime cases, including fraud, corruption, and cryptocurrency scams. Alison has helped define crypto crime, exploring how digital assets enable illicit activity and highlighting the national security risks of Bitcoin strategic reserves. Key TakeawaysDefining Crypto Crime: Establishing a common industry definition for crypto crime is essential for effectively addressing and understanding the misuse of cryptocurrency in illegal activities. Asset Recovery Ecosystem: Asset recovery is crucial for reducing the financial incentives for crime, emphasizing its role in combating illicit finance. Cross-Border Illicit Activities: Cryptocurrency facilitates cross-border illicit activities, posing challenges for law enforcement and necessitating international cooperation to address these issues effectively. Decentralisation Challenges: Centralised chip production undermines crypto’s decentralisation, highlighting vulnerabilities in strategic reserves and the need for robust security measures. National Security Risks: Strategic Bitcoin reserves pose national security risks due to geopolitical tensions, which can impact the security and stability of these reserves. Resources Mentioned Alison’s Securities Analytics blog Alison's op-ed on Strategic Bitcoin Reserves and National SecurityAmazon | There's No Such Thing as Crypto Crime by Nick Furneaux Nick Furneaux on Seize & Desist Miles Johnson on Seize & Desist Stay Connected Dive deeper into the world of asset recovery with Seize & Desist. Subscribe for exclusive insights into the stories that are redefining asset recovery: https://link.cohostpodcasting.com/b36b929c-6ca3-4e49-8258-44c310d012c9?d=sG5Qi2MdL DisclaimerOur podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed. Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
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  • Ep. 22: Beyond the Shadows: The Underworld's Financial Playbook
    In this conversation, Aidan Larkin explores the complexities of international money laundering with Miles Johnson, investigative reporter for the Financial Times and author of Chasing Shadows (2023). Drawing on Miles’ reporting and research, they examine the intricate connections between organised crime and global finance, the challenges faced by law enforcement in dismantling these networks, and the geopolitical factors that influence the recovery of illicit assets. Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction 10:30 - The Intersection of Organised Crime and Financial Markets 18:45 - Challenges in Investigating Money Laundering 25:00 - The Role of the DEA and International Law Enforcement 32:20 - The Complexity of International Crime Networks 40:00 - Reflections on Chasing Shadows About our Guest Miles Johnson is an investigative journalist specialising in international organised crime and money laundering. As a reporter for the Financial Times, he has uncovered complex criminal networks, exposed the financial systems that enable illicit operations across borders, and been instrumental in bringing high-profile cross-border investigations to light to reveal the mechanisms that underpin global criminal enterprises. Key Takeaways Organised Crime and Financial Markets: Organised crime syndicates operate like sophisticated businesses, interacting with the financial world and exploiting its structures for money laundering. Challenges in Investigating Money Laundering: Miles explains the intricate and resource-intensive nature of money laundering investigations, emphasising the need for robust legal frameworks and international cooperation to tackle these crimes effectively. The Role of the DEA and International Law Enforcement: Aidan and Miles explore the DEA's expanded mandate post-9/11, its international operations, and the challenges faced in cross-border law enforcement efforts. Complex International Crime Networks: The conversation highlights the multifaceted nature of global crime networks, involving diverse groups and activities, and the importance of understanding these dynamics for effective law enforcement. Reflecting on Chasing Shadows: Miles' reflects on the realities of investigating international crime, the challenges faced by law enforcement, and the importance of accurate journalism in shedding light on these issues. Resources Mentioned Amazon | Chasing Shadows Miles Johnson | Financial Times NCA: Operation Destabilise Erin West on Seize & Desist Oliver Bullough on Seize & Desist Geoff White on Seize & Desist Stay Connected Dive deeper into the world of asset recovery with Seize & Desist. Subscribe for exclusive insights into the stories that are redefining asset recovery: https://link.cohostpodcasting.com/b36b929c-6ca3-4e49-8258-44c310d012c9?d=sG5Qi2MdL Disclaimer Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed. Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
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  • Ep. 21: What is Interpol’s New Silver Notice?
    In this conversation, host Aidan Larkin discusses Interpol’s pivotal role in global law enforcement with Nick Court, the Assistant Director at Interpol's Financial Crime and Anti-Corruption Centre. They explore the launch of the Silver Notice, a new tool designed to help recover criminal assets across borders, its potential to strengthen international cooperation, and what it could mean for the future of global law enforcement. Timestamps00:00 - Introduction 02:15 - Role of Interpol in Global Law Enforcement 10:30 - Significance of the Silver Notice 18:45 - Challenges in Asset Recovery 25:00 - Importance of International Cooperation 32:20 - Impact of the Silver Notice Pilot Program 40:00 - Conclusion and Key Takeaways About our Guest Nick Court is a seasoned law enforcement professional with extensive experience in economic crime and asset recovery. Currently serving as the Assistant Director at Interpol's Financial Crime and Anti-Corruption Centre, Nick has dedicated his career to tackling financial crime on a global scale. With a background as a detective in the City of London Police, he has been instrumental in international investigations, particularly in fraud and cybercrime. Key TakeawaysRole of Interpol in Global Law Enforcement: Nick Court highlights Interpol's unique position as the only global law enforcement organisation and how it drives international cooperation and intelligence sharing. Significance of the Silver Notice: The Silver Notice is a strategic tool to enhance asset recovery by enabling countries to trace and identify criminal assets across borders. Challenges in Asset Recovery: Nick explains the complexities and resource constraints law enforcement agencies face when recovering assets and why international collaboration is critical. Importance of International Cooperation: Coordinated efforts among countries are essential to effectively combating financial crime and improving asset recovery outcomes. Impact of the Silver Notice Pilot Program: The pilot program engages multiple countries to recover assets that would otherwise remain hidden, showcasing its potential to transform asset recovery efforts. Resources Mentioned Interpol's Official Website INTERPOL publishes first Silver Notice targeting criminal assets City of London Police secure Silver Notice against convicted fraudster Dirty assets: the Silver Notice hits organized crime in its pocket Stay Connected Dive deeper into the world of asset recovery with Seize & Desist. Subscribe for exclusive insights into the stories that are redefining asset recovery.Disclaimer Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed. Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
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Welcome to Seize & Desist - the first podcast to explore the fascinating and complex world of seized assets. In this show, Asset Reality co-founder and CEO Aidan Larkin will be joined by some of the industry’s most influential and renowned experts to discuss their perspectives on the latest headlines, trends and challenges shaping the future of global asset recovery. They’ll explore how asset recovery impacts individuals and organisations alike and how it's evolving to keep pace with emerging technological advancements like cryptocurrencies, NFTs and other virtual assets. Whether you're new to the world of seized asset recovery or a seasoned practitioner, join us inside the world of asset recovery and uncover the stories shaping its future. Subscribe to be the first to hear new episodes of Seize & Desist. Connect with Asset Reality on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/asset-reality/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/asset_reality Stay up-to-date with the latest industry developments by reading our blog: https://www.assetreality.com/blog Connect with our host Aidan Larkin on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aidan-larkin-29810781/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/AidanJLarkin Seize & Desist is for informational purposes only and is not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed. Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
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