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The GoodHard Story Podcast

Katherine Wolf
The GoodHard Story Podcast
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    Episode 115: Melanie Shankle on Becoming What You Didn’t Have

    20/1/2026 | 55 mins.
    Parenting dynamics are complicated, to say the very least. Every mother and father will leave wounds on their children, no matter how carefully (or carelessly) they parent. Today I’m sitting down with Melanie Shankle, who was generous enough to share about the wounds left by her mother as well as the healing she’s found in raising a daughter of her own. 

    Through her bestselling books and hilarious podcast, Melanie has shared her life with us for nearly two decades—from the frivolous and fun stuff to the hard and the heavy stuff. Her most recent book, Here Be Dragons, was one of the best books I’ve read in the last year. In true Melanie fashion, this conversation about aging well, relating to young adult kids, and breaking generational cycles is as heavy as it is light. I think you’ll enjoy every minute.

    Show Notes:
    What we mentioned:
    Here Be Dragons: Treading the Deep Waters of Motherhood, Mean Girls, and Generational Trauma by Melanie Shankle - https://a.co/d/0giagu3
    Sparkly Green Earrings: Catching the Light at Every Turn by Melanie Shankle - https://a.co/d/0TMFnLl
    Songs for the Anxious Heart - https://open.spotify.com/album/6mA22vsD5MvgUPCEPKgjBg?si=vHtRb743RuGHJQKLvAkK0w
     
    Scriptures we referenced:
    James 1:4
    Isaiah 61:3
    2 Corinthians 1:4

    Where to find Melanie Shankle:
    The Big Boo Cast - https://pod.link/262921699
    @melanieshankle on Instagram

    About Hope Heals:
    For more messages of hope, free resources, and opportunities to connect with me: https://hopeheals.com/

    Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopeheals/⁠

    Subscribe to The GoodHard Story Podcast!
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/good-hard-story-podcast/id1496882479
    Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0OYz6G9Q2tNNVOX9YSdmFb?si=043bd6b10a664beb

    Want a little hope in your inbox? ⁠⁠Sign up for the Hope Note⁠⁠, a monthly digest of only the good stuff, like reflections from me and a curated roundup of the Internet’s most redemptive content: http://eepurl.com/gGUnlf

    Get to know us:
    ⁠⁠Hope Heals⁠⁠: https://hopeheals.com/spaces
    ⁠⁠Hope Heals Camp⁠⁠: https://hopeheals.com/camp
    ⁠⁠Mend Coffee⁠⁠: https://www.mendcoffee.com/
    Instagram⁠: https://www.instagram.com/hopeheals/
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    Episode 114: Adam Young on the Best Case Scenario for Our Trauma

    13/1/2026 | 51 mins.
    One of my all-time favorite guests returns today with the most heartening, hopeful possibilities for the outcomes of our deepest trauma. Adam Young is a therapist who specializes in story work, a therapeutic approach that has helped me understand my own good/hard story in order to become who I want to be. It has changed my life and I think it can do the same for you.

    Our conversation covers the common traits of people who become better instead of bitter after heartbreak, making sense of God’s place in our hard stories, and the spiritual practice of praying your feelings. There is healing for you in this hour—I guarantee it.

    Show Notes
    What we mentioned:
    Make Sense of Your Story: Why Engaging Your Past with Kindness Changes Everything by Adam Young - https://a.co/d/3ompr6b
    Adam Young on Episode 71 of The GoodHard Story Podcast: https://pod.link/1496882479/episode/NWE5Yzg2YzAtNjE4Yy00M2M1LThkMDYtZTk2YTVhNWQ0MWVj
    Amy Julia Becker - https://amyjuliabecker.com/
    All My Knotted Up Life: A Memoir by Beth Moore - https://a.co/d/j778gry

    Scriptures we referenced:
    Psalm 4:1
    Romans 12:15
    Joel 2:25
    Genesis 50:20

    Where to find Adam Young:
    https://adamyoungcounseling.com/
    The Place We Find Ourselves Podcast - https://adamyoungcounseling.com/podcast/

    About Hope Heals:
    For more messages of hope, free resources, and opportunities to connect with me: https://hopeheals.com/

    Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopeheals/⁠

    Subscribe to The GoodHard Story Podcast!
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/good-hard-story-podcast/id1496882479
    Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0OYz6G9Q2tNNVOX9YSdmFb?si=043bd6b10a664beb

    Want a little hope in your inbox? ⁠⁠Sign up for the Hope Note⁠⁠, a monthly digest of only the good stuff, like reflections from me and a curated roundup of the Internet’s most redemptive content: http://eepurl.com/gGUnlf

    Get to know us:
    ⁠⁠Hope Heals⁠⁠: https://hopeheals.com/spaces
    ⁠⁠Hope Heals Camp⁠⁠: https://hopeheals.com/camp
    ⁠⁠Mend Coffee⁠⁠: https://www.mendcoffee.com/
    Instagram⁠: https://www.instagram.com/hopeheals/
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    Episode 113: Rich Villodas on Finding the Spacious Life

    06/1/2026 | 56 mins.
    Episode 113: Rich Villodas on Finding the Spacious Life

    Need a bit of soul rest today? I’m offering you an hour that feels both like a deep breath AND a challenge to live differently. Rich Villodas is one of the few people who can pull off this refreshing combination, and we are blessed to have him on The GoodHard Story Podcast this week. He’s been a source of inspiration and encouragement to me for many years now. In a world full of loud voices competing for the spotlight, Rich has remained a gentle, steady, and humble conduit of Jesus’ wisdom and grace.

    During our conversation, Rich shared some vitally important “how to’s” with me: how to examine your interior life, how to take your love for God out of its tidy compartment, how to be formed by Christ rather than your idea of Christ, and how to teach our kids to navigate complexity.

    Show Notes
    What we mentioned:
    The Narrow Path: How the Subversive Way of Jesus Satisfies Our Souls by Rich Villodas - https://a.co/d/dqVs2JW
    Episode 85: My New Way of Understanding Beauty with Brook Hensley - https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/episode-85-my-new-way-of-understanding-beauty-with/id1496882479?i=1000689600342&l=en-GB
    The Deeply Formed Life: Five Transformative Values to Root Us in the Way of Jesus by Rich Villodas - https://a.co/d/84WTasB

    Scriptures we referenced:
    The Sermon on the Mount: Matthew 5 - 7
    2 Corinthians 12:9
    Galatians 4:19 
    Romans 8:29

    Where to find Rich Villodas:
    @richvillodas on X
    @richvillodas on Instagram
    https://www.richvillodas.com/

    About Hope Heals:
    For more messages of hope, free resources, and opportunities to connect with me: https://hopeheals.com/

    Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopeheals/⁠

    Subscribe to The GoodHard Story Podcast!
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/good-hard-story-podcast/id1496882479
    Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0OYz6G9Q2tNNVOX9YSdmFb?si=043bd6b10a664beb

    Want a little hope in your inbox? ⁠⁠Sign up for the Hope Note⁠⁠, a monthly digest of only the good stuff, like reflections from me and a curated roundup of the Internet’s most redemptive content: http://eepurl.com/gGUnlf

    Get to know us:
    ⁠⁠Hope Heals⁠⁠: https://hopeheals.com/spaces
    ⁠⁠Hope Heals Camp⁠⁠: https://hopeheals.com/camp
    ⁠⁠Mend Coffee⁠⁠: https://www.mendcoffee.com/
    Instagram⁠: https://www.instagram.com/hopeheals/
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    Episode 112: Andy Crouch on Reclaiming Your Humanity

    25/11/2025 | 1h 3 mins.
    My guest today is unlike anyone else I know. Andy Crouch is a genius writer, thinker, and speaker whose career has spanned from Harvard to Christianity Today to Praxis. Andy is inviting Christians to be creative, generative culture makers, and his words have deeply shaped my worldview and faith journey.

    You might want to be prepared to take notes during our conversation today, because Andy Crouch speaks more wisdom per minute than just about anyone else I know. He shared so many nuggets with me, including how he’s rejected a shallow-souled life, the surprisingly simple spiritual practice that starts his day, and the important distinction between charmed and blessed.

    Show Notes
    What we mentioned:
    The Life We’re Looking For: Reclaiming Relationship in a Technological World by Andy Crouch - https://a.co/d/g6hq8l8
    Praxis - https://www.praxis.co/
    A Redemptive Thesis for Valuing Disability - http://hopeheals.com/thesis

    Where to find Andy Crouch: https://andy-crouch.com/

    For more messages of hope, free resources, and opportunities to connect with me: https://hopeheals.com/

    Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopeheals/⁠

    Subscribe to The GoodHard Story Podcast!
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/good-hard-story-podcast/id1496882479
    Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0OYz6G9Q2tNNVOX9YSdmFb?si=043bd6b10a664beb

    Want a little hope in your inbox? ⁠⁠Sign up for the Hope Note⁠⁠, a monthly digest of only the good stuff, like reflections from me and a curated roundup of the Internet’s most redemptive content: http://eepurl.com/gGUnlf

    Get to know us:
    ⁠⁠Hope Heals⁠⁠: https://hopeheals.com/spaces
    ⁠⁠Hope Heals Camp⁠⁠: https://hopeheals.com/camp
    ⁠⁠Mend Coffee⁠⁠: https://www.mendcoffee.com/
    Instagram⁠: https://www.instagram.com/hopeheals/
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    Episode 111: Nancy French on Getting Holy Ghosted

    18/11/2025 | 59 mins.
    Following God does not always mean understanding God.  In fact, following God can lead us away from comfort, conformity, and communities we once loved. Few people are living that story more authentically than my guest Nancy French. She is a New York Times bestselling ghostwriter who has a dramatic story of her very own. Nancy has been abused and alienated by the people she trusted most, yet she’s continued to show up to her life and to the good/hard work God has for her.
    I adore this woman and the way she’s navigating the complex landscape of her life. In our conversation, she was so generous to share how she’s reconciling loving God more than ever even when the church confuses her, how she’s pursuing unity with people who see the world differently, and how she’s raising resilient kids. You do not want to miss this hour with my new friend Nancy French.

    Show Notes
    Make a donation to Hope Heals at hopeheals.com/support.

    What we mentioned:
    Ghosted: An American Story by Nancy French - https://a.co/d/cRyFY5b
    All My Knotted Up Life: A Memoir by Beth Moore - https://a.co/d/5ignBRQ
    Where the Light Fell: A Memoir by Philip Yancey - https://a.co/d/7iX4U2e
    The Holy Post Podcast - https://pod.link/591157388
    Good Faith Podcast - https://pod.link/1594454747
    Beth Moore on The GoodHard Story Podcast - https://pod.link/1496882479/episode/NDdjMDEzNWEtMDU1NS00YWVkLWEwZDgtNGNlNWM4MzQxYWQz

    Where to find Nancy:
    Website: nancyfrench.com
    Twitter / X: @nancyafrench

    Scriptures we referenced:
    James 1:4
    Ecclesiastes 7:2

    For more messages of hope, free resources, and opportunities to connect with me: https://hopeheals.com/

    Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopeheals/⁠

    Subscribe to The GoodHard Story Podcast!
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/good-hard-story-podcast/id1496882479
    Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0OYz6G9Q2tNNVOX9YSdmFb?si=043bd6b10a664beb

    Want a little hope in your inbox? ⁠⁠Sign up for the Hope Note⁠⁠, a monthly digest of only the good stuff, like reflections from me and a curated roundup of the Internet’s most redemptive content: http://eepurl.com/gGUnlf

    Get to know us:
    ⁠⁠Hope Heals⁠⁠: https://hopeheals.com/spaces
    ⁠⁠Hope Heals Camp⁠⁠: https://hopeheals.com/camp
    ⁠⁠Mend Coffee⁠⁠: https://www.mendcoffee.com/
    Instagram⁠: https://www.instagram.com/hopeheals/

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About The GoodHard Story Podcast

The good story and the hard story can be the same story. This is where we’re sharing the proof. Feeling isolated by your hurt and heartbreak? Then this place is for you. Join Katherine Wolf and her most trusted friends as they honor the hardest parts of life while making space for the hope and humor in it all. Your weekly pep talk from The GoodHard Story Podcast will load you up with fresh inspiration, practical takeaways, and the soul-deep sense that you are not alone in the story you’ve been given.
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