With WWDC25 looming, Paul and Mikaela are as excited as everyone to discover the new features and tools we can use to make amazing new things… but let’s not get too distracted by the new shiny things. In this episode, as well as covering off the news, there’s hard-won advice for new Swift developers, and loads of different takes on how to (and whether to!) monetise your apps.Plus, is that… is that The Fruitful Trombone of Great Sadness parping a different tune…?Essential links from the episode:Hacking with Swift sale: https://www.hackingwithswift.com/offersWhat’s new in SwiftUI? https://www.hackingwithswift.com/swiftuiMikaela Fruitful preorder link: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/digitial-business-card-fruitful/id6449998135Swift Steering Group: https://www.swift.org/ecosystem-steering-group/What’s new in Swift 6.2? https://www.hackingwithswift.com/articles/277/whats-new-in-swift-6-2Apple’s new accessibility features: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/05/apple-unveils-powerful-accessibility-features-coming-later-this-year/How many fraudulent transactions Apple blocks: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/05/the-app-store-prevented-more-than-9-billion-usd-in-fraudulent-transactions/Boots Theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theoryFreemiumKit: https://freemiumkit.app/documentation/index/Conferences:CommunityKit (9–11 June): https://communitykit.social/One More Thing (9–12 June): https://omt-conf.com/Conference organisers: we’d love to feature more events here on a regular basis. Get in touch with us when early bird tickets go on sale, or when you announce speakers or something else, and we’ll do our best to feature you!
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S4E7: Progress over perfection
To celebrate Global Accessibility Awareness Day, Mikaela and Paul recorded a special episode live at ARCtic Conference in Oulu, Finland, with a distinguished panel of accessibility champions: Rob Whitaker, Daniel Devesa Derksen-Staats and Klemens Strasse.If accessibility seems like an overwhelming subject, don’t panic; we show you not just why but also give you tips on how to get started with ensuring your apps are as accessible as possible — and remember the mantra, ‘progress over perfection’!Essential links from the episode:Global Accessibility Awareness Day: https://accessibility.dayARCtic Conference: https://arcticonference.comArt of Fauna by Klemens Strasser: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/art-of-fauna-cozy-puzzles/id1630468596The practice of inclusive design, by Linda Dong: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2021/10275/Art of Fauna by Klemklem Strasser: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/art-of-fauna-cozy-puzzles/id1630468596Sim Daltonism: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/sim-daltonism/id1050503579Art of Fauna by the World’s Biggest Mandarin Duck Fan: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/art-of-fauna-cozy-puzzles/id1630468596Conferences:SwiftCraft (19–21 May): https://swiftcraft.ukConference organisers: we’d love to feature more events here on a regular basis. Get in touch with us when early bird tickets go on sale, or when you announce speakers or something else, and we’ll do our best to feature you!
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S4E6: The Fruitful Trombone of Great Sadness
Paul and Mikaela come to you live (-ish) from try! Swift Tokyo, where the air is filled with both cherry blossom and excitement about WWDC 2025!We’ve got advice for attending in-person events (and why we think you should), our first reactions to Swift 6.1 and Swiftly 1.0, plus, the long-running saga of whether Mikaela’s app Fruitful — which would be perfect for something like WWDC, Mikaela, just sayin’ — is finally done. Is it? You’ll have to listen to find out!Essential links from the episode:Prismic: https://github.com/twostraws/PrismicFruitful: https://getfruitful.appWWDC repository: https://github.com/twostraws/wwdc/Hue lightbulb: https://www.ryantoken.com/blog/serverless-swiftConferences:iOSKonf (13–15 May): https://www.ioskonf.mkSwiftCraft (19–21 May): https://swiftcraft.ukConference organizers: we’d love to feature more events here on a regular basis. Get in touch with us when early bird tickets go on sale, or when you announce speakers or something else, and we’ll do our best to feature you!
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S4E5: Could you just…?
‘Networking’ is a word to strike fear into the heart of any developer, and upsettingly we’re dealing with both types this episodes: talking to other humans at conferences, but mostly trying to coax computers to talk to each other too.Plus, our Open Ballot this episode is the trifling little matter of the major changes you’re hoping to see in Xcode, SwiftUI, SwiftData and more as WWDC25 rolls around.Essential links from the episode:Apple Intelligence delayOriginal announcement: https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/apple_is_delaying_the_more_personalized_siri_apple_intelligence_featuresGruber’s rant: https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/something_is_rotten_in_the_state_of_cupertinoApple introduces age-checking systems https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/27/apple-introduces-new-child-safety-initiatives-including-an-age-checking-system-for-apps/Testing Workgroup https://www.swift.org/testing-workgroup/Conferences:Swift Heroes (8–9 April): https://swiftheroes.com/2025/try! Swift Tokyo (9–11 April): https://tryswift.jp/Conference organizers: we’d love to feature more events here on a regular basis. Get in touch with us when early bird tickets go on sale, or when you announce speakers or something else, and we’ll do our best to feature you!
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S4E4: Naming is hard
Apparently, the secret to a great coding presentation is three Es. You’ll just have to listen to discover if this means Paul is advocating for consuming Class A drugs to get hyped or if they just, like, stand for something inspiring or something. Developers, developers, developers…Plus, as well as your traditional rundown of the news and upcoming conferences, this episode has excellent advice from Mikaela and from our wonderful community of Swift Over Coffee listeners on how to deal with imposter syndrome. Well, it’s quite good advice. Decent, at least.Essential links from the episode: Open Source Swift Build: https://www.swift.org/blog/the-next-chapter-in-swift-build-technologies/ Updated VSCode extension: https://www.swift.org/blog/vscode-swift-2/ Swift on Android Working Group https://forums.swift.org/t/swift-on-android-working-group/77780Conferences: Let’s Vision: Shanghai (1–2 March): https://letsvision.swiftgg.team ARCtic conference (11–13 March): https://arcticonference.com try! Swift Tokyo (9–11 April): https://tryswift.jp/
Swift over Coffee is a podcast that helps you keep your Swift skills up to date the easy way, hosted by Paul Hudson and Mikaela Caron. In each episode we chat about the latest developments in the Swift community, and also host an open ballot where you can share your views on important topics.
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Note: all the discussion from Mikaela and Paul is licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0. Our regular intro/outro music is also licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0, and is called "Dropping out of School" by Brad Sucks.
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