
#242 - The End of Traditional Management: Reimagining Work for AI-First Organization - Jurgen Appelo
08/12/2025 | 1h 18 mins.
(04:11) Brought to you by JellyfishAI tools alone wonāt transform your engineering org. Jellyfish provides insights into AI tool adoption, cost, and delivery impact ā so you can make better investment decisions and build teams that use AI effectively. See for yourself atĀ jellyfish.co/platform/ai-impact.Are you managing your team the same way you did five years ago? With AI agents now part of the workforce, the old playbook no longer applies.In this episode, Jurgen Appelo, author of āHuman Robot Agentā and creator of Management 3.0 and unFIX, challenges conventional thinking about management, organizational design, and the future of work in the AI era. He explains why rigid frameworks like Scrum are becoming bottlenecks to AI speed and why he believes we need to completely rethink how organizations operate.The conversation dives into the concept of creating āfast tracksā for AI agents while maintaining āslow tracksā for human collaboration. Jurgen also breaks down why team sizes are shrinking and why professionals must move beyond T-shaped skills to become M-shaped, multidisciplinary workers to remain relevant. He also shares his controversial take on why Scrum is ādoneā and why he trusts AI more than the average human when solving complex problems.Key topics discussed:Managing systems vs people in hybrid human-AI teamsWhy patterns beat frameworks for organization designWhy Scrum is done: adapting Agile for the AI eraM-shaped workers: the new multidisciplinary skillFast and slow tracks: redesigning work for AIWhy AI outperforms average humans at complex problemsCritical thinking as the essential leadership skillThe new optimal team size and dynamic reteamingTimestamps:(00:00:00) Trailer & Intro(00:02:20) Career Turning Points: Seven-Year Career Pivots(00:05:29) Origins of Management 3.0(00:08:31) Managing Systems, Not People(00:12:35) Everlasting Management Principles(00:17:21) unFIX: Patterns Over Frameworks(00:24:27) Core unFIX Patterns(00:31:39) Pipedrive Case Study: unFIX in Action(00:38:16) M3K: Merging Management 3.0 and unFIX(00:41:33) Skeptical Enthusiast: Balanced AI Perspective(00:47:18) Co-Creating with Humans and Machines(00:51:51) From T-Shaped to M-Shaped Workers(00:56:38) Why I Trust AI More Than Humans(01:00:19) Scrum is Done (Not Dead)(01:05:50) Redesigning Organizations for AI: Fast and Slow Tracks(01:09:25) 3 Tech Lead Wisdom_____Jurgen Appeloās BioJurgen Appelo is an author, speaker, and entrepreneur who helps leaders rewire their organizations for AI-driven leadership and autonomous digital agents. Recognized by Inc.com as a Top 50 Leadership Expert and Top 100 Leadership Speaker, he bridges opposing worldviews: human ingenuity and AI, leadership versus governance, stability with innovation, and individual growth fueling collective success. As founder of The unFIX Company (and previously founder of Management 3.0 and co-founder of Agile Lean Europe), Jurgen pioneers the future of work through stories, games, tools, and practices that challenge conventional thinking.Follow Jurgen:LinkedIn āĀ linkedin.com/in/jurgenappeloWebsite āĀ jurgenappelo.comSubstack āĀ substack.jurgenappelo.comĀ Human Robot Agent āĀ https://jurgenappelo.com/pages/human-robot-agentLike this episode?Show notes & transcript: techleadjournal.dev/episodes/242.Follow @techleadjournal on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram.Buy me a coffee or become a patron.

#241 - Your Code as a Crime Scene: The Psychology Behind Software Quality - Adam Tornhill
01/12/2025 | 1h 1 mins.
(04:00) Brought to you by UnleashUnleash is a private, flexible, and scalable feature flag system that lets teams decouple deployments from releases. It reduces the risk of shipping new features and gives organizations real-time control over what reaches production. And as AI accelerates development, Unleash helps engineering teams move fast and stay stable with safe rollouts and instant kill switches. Start a free trial of Unleash atĀ ā getunleash.io/pricingā .Why do so many software projects still fail despite modern tools? The answer often lies in the psychology of the team, not the technology stack.Software development is often viewed purely as a technical challenge, yet many projects fail due to human factors and cognitive bottlenecks. In this episode, Adam Tornhill, CTO and Founder of CodeScene, shares his unique journey combining software engineering with psychology to solve these persistent industry problems. He explains the concept of āYour Code as a Crime Scene,ā a method for using behavioral analysis to identify high-risk areas in a codebase that static analysis tools often miss.Adam covers the tangible business impact of code health, specifically how it drives predictability and development speed. He explains why 1-2% of our codebase accounts for up to 70% of our development work, and how focusing on these hotspots can make our team 2x faster and 10x more predictable. Adam also provides a critical reality check on the rise of AI in coding, exploring whether it will help reduce technical debt or accelerate it, and offers strategies for maintaining quality in an AI-assisted future.Key topics discussed:Combining psychology and software engineeringWhy predictability matters more than speedTreating your codebase as a crime sceneBehavioral analysis vs. static analysisThe hidden danger of the āBus FactorāWill AI help or hurt code quality?Why healthy code helps both humans and AIEssential guardrails for AI-generated codeTimestamps:(00:00) Trailer & Intro(01:29) Career Turning Point: From Developer to Psychologist(02:36) Combining Psychology and Software Engineering(04:00) Why Engineering Leaders Need Psychology Knowledge(05:46) The Root Cause of Failing Software Projects(07:43) Why Code Abstractness Makes Quality Hard to Measure(09:29) Aligning Code Quality with Business Outcomes(11:37) Code Health: 2x Speed, 10x Predictability(12:58) Why Predictability is Undervalued in Software(19:53) Introducing āYour Code as a Crime Sceneā(21:57) Behavioral Code Analysis: Hotspot Analysis vs Static Code Analysis(24:06) Behavioral Code Analysis: Understanding Change Coupling(26:30) Dealing with God Classes(29:40) Behavioral Code Analysis: The Social Side of Code(31:33) Why Developers Arenāt Interchangeable(33:14) Introduction to CodeScene(36:48) Will AI Help or Hurt Code Quality?(39:14) Essential Guardrails for AI-Generated Code(42:06) Using CodeScene to Maintain Quality in the AI Era(43:06) How AI Accelerates Technical Debt at Scale(45:54) Why AI-Friendly Code is Human-Friendly Code(48:32) Documentation: Capturing the āWhyā for Humans and AI(50:42) The Reality Check: Future of Software Development with AI(52:41) 3 Tech Lead Wisdom_____Adam Tornhillās BioAdam Tornhill is the founder and CTO of CodeScene and the best-selling author of Your Code as a Crime Scene. Combining degrees in engineering and psychology, Adam helps companies optimize software quality using AI-driven methodologies. He is an international keynote speaker and researcher who enjoys retro computing and martial arts in his spare time.Follow Adam:LinkedIn āĀ linkedin.com/in/adam-tornhill-71759b48CodeScene āĀ codescene.comĀ Your Code as a Crime Scene āĀ pragprog.com/titles/atcrime2/your-code-as-a-crime-scene-second-editionLike this episode?Show notes & transcript: techleadjournal.dev/episodes/241.Follow @techleadjournal on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram.Buy me a coffee or become a patron.

#240 - AI as Your Thought Partner: Break Boundaries & Do What You Never Could Before - Greg Shove
24/11/2025 | 1h 6 mins.
(06:03) Brought to you by UnleashUnleash is a private, flexible, and scalable feature flag system that lets teams decouple deployments from releases. It reduces the risk of shipping new features and gives organizations real-time control over what reaches production. And as AI accelerates development, Unleash helps engineering teams move fast and stay stable with safe rollouts and instant kill switches. Start a free trial of Unleash atĀ getunleash.io/pricing.Are you making critical decisions without consulting AI? Greg argues itās now irresponsible for any leader to make high-stakes decisions without talking to AI first.In this episode, Greg Shove, CEO of Section and a multi-time founder with 30 years of entrepreneurial experience, shares how AI is fundamentally different from any previous technology wave. Unlike traditional software that makes us more productive within our existing boundaries, AI allows us to jump capability boundaries ā enabling individuals and organizations to do things they simply couldnāt do before.Greg explains why most enterprise AI rollouts are failing (hint: theyāre treating AI like software when itās actually co-intelligence), how to cultivate resilience through multiple startup failures, and the practical strategies for getting teams to adopt AI (from simple hacks like putting a post-it note on your monitor to creating an entire AI-dedicated screen).This conversation goes beyond the hype to explore both the superpowers and limitations of AI, the real organizational outcomes you can expect (spoiler: itās not just about layoffs), and why moving from efficiency to creation is the key to unlocking AIās true potential in your organization.Key topics discussed:Why AI breaks capability boundaries unlike any other techTreating AI as a thought partner, not just a productivity toolWhy most large organizations fail at AI deploymentManaging workforce anxiety during AI transformationThe four possible team outcomes when rolling out AIMoving from efficiency (cut) to growth (create) with AIThe Post-it note hack that changed how teams use AI dailyWalking the walk: leading authentically in AI adoptionTimestamps:(00:00:00) Trailer & Intro(00:02:44) Career Turning Points(00:06:03) Cultivating Entrepreneurial Resilience(00:07:49) Understanding the AI Wave: Scale and Transformation(00:12:29) Pivoting to AI: Sectionās Transformation Journey(00:17:57) AI as a Thought Partner(00:22:57) Practical Tips for Leaders Using AI Daily(00:30:49) Rolling Out AI Organization-Wide: Managing Change and Anxiety(00:41:30) AI ROI: Beyond Efficiency to Creation(00:51:01) AI-Powered Education: The ProfAI Approach(00:57:53) 1 Tech Lead Wisdom_____Greg Shoveās BioGreg Shove is a seven-time CEO, all in on AI. After first using ChatGPT in February 2023, he pivoted his company Section to be AI-powered. Now he helps enterprise organizations move from AI-anxious to AI-proficient with a proven playbook, delivered through keynote speaking and executive workshops.Greg is also the founder of Machine & Partners, an AI lab building custom enterprise AI applications, and co-author of Personal Math, a weekly newsletter sharing business insights for early-career leaders and founders.Follow Greg:LinkedIn āĀ linkedin.com/in/gregshoveNewsletter āĀ personalmath.substack.comSection AI āĀ sectionai.comProf AI āĀ prof.aiLike this episode?Show notes & transcript: techleadjournal.dev/episodes/240.Follow @techleadjournal on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram.Buy me a coffee or become a patron.

#239 - Taming Your Technical Debt: Mastering the Trade-Off Problem - Andrew Brown
17/11/2025 | 1h 6 mins.
(06:06) Brought to you by JellyfishAI tools alone wonāt transform your engineering org. Jellyfish provides insights into AI tool adoption, cost, and delivery impact ā so you can make better investment decisions and build teams that use AI effectively. See for yourself atĀ jellyfish.co/platform/ai-impact.Why do organizations constantly complain about having too much technical debt? Because theyāre solving the wrong problem.In this episode, Dr. Andrew Brown, author of āTaming Your Dragon: Addressing Your Technical Debt,ā reveals a profound insight: technical debt isnāt fundamentally a technical problem. Itās a trade-off problem rooted in human bias, organizational systems, and economic incentives. Through his innovative āTechnical Debt Onion Model,ā Andrew shows how decisions about code quality happen across five interconnected layers, from individual cognitive biases to wicked problem dynamics.Andrew explains why the financial debt analogy is dangerously misleading and, more importantly, how others can rack up debt youāll eventually pay for. Drawing from behavioral economics, systems thinking, and organizational theory, he reveals why our emotions, not logic, drive most technical decisions, and how to work with this reality rather than against it.Key topics discussed:Why technical debt is a trade-off problem, not technicalHow emotions override logic in critical decisionsThe Technical Debt Onion Model framework explainedPrincipal-agent problems sabotaging your codebaseExternalities: who pays for shortcuts taken today?Why burning down debt is already too lateUlysses contracts for managing future obligationsSystems thinking applied to software developmentWicked problems: why different teams see different solutionsAIās impact on technical debt creationTimestamps:(00:00:00) Trailer & Intro(00:02:24) Career Turning Points(00:06:06) The Importance of Skilling Up in Tech(00:06:49) The Definition of Technical Debt(00:09:08) The Broken Analogy of Technical Debt as a Financial Debt(00:09:58) The Role of Human Bias and Organization Issues in Technical Debt(00:12:41) Tech Debt is a Trade-off Problem(00:13:07) Building a Healthier Relationship with Technical Debt(00:15:15) The Technical Debt Onion Model(00:18:17) The Onion Model: Trade-Off Layer(00:25:10) The Ulysses Contract for Managing Technical Debt(00:33:03) The Onion Model: Systems Layer(00:36:32) The Onion Model: Economics/Game-Theory Layer(00:41:50) The Onion Model: Wicked Problem Layer(00:48:10) How Organizations Can Start Managing Technical Debt Better(00:52:03) The Al Impact on Technical Debt(00:56:16) 3 Tech Lead Wisdom_____Andrew Brownās BioAndrew Richard Brown has worked in software since 1999, starting as an SAP programmer fixing Y2K bugs. He realized the biggest problems in software development were human, not technical, and has since helped teams improve performance by addressing these issues.Andrew coaches organizations on software development and quality engineering, focusing on technical debt, risk in complex systems, and project underestimation. He investigates how cognitive biases drive software problems and applies behavioral science techniques to solve them. His research has produced counterintuitive insights and fresh approaches. He regularly speaks at international conferences and runs a growing YouTube channel on these topics.Follow Andrew:LinkedIn āĀ linkedin.com/in/andrew-brown-4b38062YouTube āĀ @behaviouralsoftwareclub705Email āĀ [email protected]Ā Taming Your Dragon āĀ https://www.amazon.com/Taming-Your-Dragon-Addressing-Technical/dp/B0CV4TTP32/Like this episode?Show notes & transcript: techleadjournal.dev/episodes/239.Follow @techleadjournal on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram.Buy me a coffee or become a patron.

#238 - AI is Smart Until It's Dumb: Why LLM Will Fail When You Least Expect It - Emmanuel Maggiori
10/11/2025 | 1h 16 mins.
Why does an AI that brilliantly generates code suddenly fail at basic math? The answer explains why your LLM will fail when you least expect it.In this episode, Emmanuel Maggiori, author of āSmart Until Itās Dumbā and āThe AI Pocket Book,ā cuts through the AI hype to reveal what LLMs actually do and, more importantly, what they canāt. Drawing from his experience building AI systems and witnessing multiple AI booms and busts, Emmanuel explains why machine learning works brilliantly until it makes mistakes no human would ever make.He shares why businesses repeatedly fail at AI adoption, how hallucinations are baked into the technology, and what developers need to know about building reliable AI products.Whether youāre implementing AI at work or concerned about your career, this conversation offers a grounded perspective on navigating the current AI wave without getting swept away by unrealistic promises.Key topics discussed:Why AI projects fail the same way repeatedlyHow LLMs work and why they brilliantly failWhy hallucinations canāt be fixed with better promptsWhy self-driving cars still need human operatorsAdopting AI without falling into hype trapsHow engineers stay relevant in the AI eraWhy AGI predictions are mostly marketingBuilding valuable products in boring industriesTimestamps:(00:00:00) Trailer & Intro(00:02:32) Career Turning Points(00:06:41) Writing āSmart Until Itās Dumbā and āThe AI Pocket Bookā(00:08:14) The History of AI Booms & Winters(00:11:34) Why Generative AI Hype is Different Than the Past AI Waves(00:13:26) AI is Smart Until Itās Dumb(00:16:45) How LLM and Generative AI Actually Work(00:22:53) What Makes LLMs Smart(00:27:25) Foundational Model(00:30:01) RAG and Agentic AI(00:34:09) Tips on How to Adopt AI Within Companies(00:37:56) How to Reduce & Avoid AI Hallucination Problem(00:45:49) The Important Role of Benchmarks When Building AI Products(00:50:57) Advice for Software Engineers to Deal With AI Concerns(00:56:49) Advice for Junior Developers(00:59:34) Vibe Coders and Prompt Engineers: New Jobs or Just Hype?(01:01:55) The AGI Possibility(01:07:23) Three Tech Lead Wisdom_____Emmanuel Maggioriās BioEmmanuel Maggiori, PhD, is a software engineer and 10-year AI industry insider. He has developed AI for a variety of applications, from processing satellite images to packaging deals for holiday travelers. He is the author of the books Smart Until Itās Dumb, Siliconned, and The AI Pocket Book.Follow Emmanuel:LinkedIn āĀ linkedin.com/in/emaggioriWebsite āĀ emaggiori.comLike this episode?Show notes & transcript: techleadjournal.dev/episodes/238.Follow @techleadjournal on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram.Buy me a coffee or become a patron.



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