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  • 99 - Corynne Baron: Cirque du Soleil “Mystere”, SYTYCD Canada, Royal Caribbean Cruises
    Interview Date: May 25th,2025Episode Summary:Corynne Barron shares how a late start in dance, a ringette goalie’s grit, and a chance UK scholarship reshaped her technique and career trajectory. She walks us through So You Think You Can Dance Canada, cruise ships, and ultimately headlining as the Black Widow in Cirque du Soleil’s Mystère. Corynne opens up about saying “no” until the right “yes,” rehabbing a hip surgery, balancing motherhood with teaching and choreographing elite gymnastics floor routines, and the mindset shifts that turn nerves into fuel. Along the way: practical audition tips, backstage culture, and why confidence—and kindness—are a dancer’s best business strategy.Shownotes:(0:50) - Introduction & career highlights: RWB, SYTYCD, Cirque(3:06) - Late dance start at 12; goalie to dancer(4:10) - Year at Royal Winnipeg Ballet; classical training focus(7:00) - SYTYCD dream begins; early ambition sparks(10:02) - UK scholarship retrains technique from basics(10:18–11:06) - Secret SYTYCD audition on 18th birthday(16:18–19:39) - Cirque path: Berlin detour to Mystère lead(21:24–22:12) - Motherhood, teaching & choreographing gymnastics routines(23:06–35:06) - Q&A: auditions, cruise ships, nerves as excitement(36:09–47:27) - Final advice: confidence, kindness, and saying yesBiography:Corynne Barron – Choreographer, Performer, and Visionary ArtistCorynne Barron is a celebrated artist whose remarkable career spans dance, performance, and choreography on a global stage. Trained at prestigious institutions such as the Royal Winnipeg Ballet School and under Kate Simmons in Warrington, England, Corynne gained national acclaim as a Top 12 finalist on So You Think You Can Dance Canada. Her performance credits include the lead soloist role of “Black Widow” in Cirque du Soleil’s Mystère in Las Vegas, where she performed for three years, redefined the character, and served as Dance Captain. At Friedrichstadt-Palast Berlin, Europe’s largest theatre, she excelled as Dance Captain, soloist, aerialist, and ensemble dancer amongst a cast of over 60 dancers, with the partnering pole number created on her by Brian Friedman. Corynne has captivated audiences on America’s Got Talent, Shaq’s Fun House during the Super Bowl, the Vegas Strong benefit at T-Mobile Arena representing Mystère, and pre-show performances for the Vegas Golden Knights.In film, Corynne performed as a dancer in a project in Scotland directed by Stacey Tookey for Imagination Film. Her work with Royal Caribbean Entertainment Studios on Allure of the Seas and Liberty of the Seas showcased her versatility as an aerialist, aqua show performer, dancer, and singer. She also modeled for Mondor Danceline in Montreal, and her image can still be found on Mondor tights to this day.Now a prominent choreographer and educator, Corynne creates national-level floor routines for gymnastics and serves as an instructor at dance studios. She is a respected adjudicator for competitions such as Candance Convention and 5678 Showtime and teaches at IDance Convention Canada. Her past contributions include assisting at Nuvo Convention and teaching at Cirque du Soleil auditions, reflecting her commitment to nurturing future talent.With multiple offers from Cirque du Soleil culminating in her iconic Mystère role, Corynne’s career exemplifies her exceptional artistry. She continues to inspire through her innovative choreography and passion for the performing arts.Connect on Social Media:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/corynnebarron/
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  • 98 - Vanessa Fuller: HBO´S Second Chance, E-40, Bone Thugz-N-Harmony.
    Interview Date: December 14th, 2024Episode Summary:Vanessa Fuller, a dancer, choreographer, and the artistic director of Xcape Dance Company. Vanessa shares her inspiring journey from growing up in Eugene, Oregon, to becoming a multifaceted professional in the dance industry. She discusses her extensive career, including working with artists like E-40 and Twista, and her recent appearance on HBO Max’s Second Chance Stage. The show, which provides a platform for individuals over 30 to chase their dreams despite past obstacles, features Vanessa as one of the few dancers. Vanessa reflects on how she balanced family life, owning a dance studio, and maintaining her passion for dance, despite the challenges. She emphasizes the importance of perseverance, maintaining relationships in the industry, and building an authentic personal brand. She also shares business tips for aspiring dancers, highlighting the importance of being true to oneself and using authenticity as a key to long-term success. Vanessa encourages dancers to embrace discomfort and use challenges as opportunities for growth. Show Notes:(0:00) Introduction to Vanessa Fuller(2:00) Vanessa's early dance journey and passion for movement(5:30) Balancing family life with a dance career(10:00) Running Escape Dance Company and owning a studio(13:45) Vanessa’s appearance on HBO Max's Second Chance Stage(18:00) The concept of Second Chance Stage for dancers over 30(21:00) Transitioning from studio owner to pursuing larger opportunities(25:00) The importance of perseverance and relationships in booking work(30:00) Building an authentic personal brand(35:00) Advice on standing out in auditions(40:00) The role of community in the dance world(45:00) Managing business and family while staying connected to dance(50:00) Embracing discomfort for growth(55:00) Tips for dancers on navigating the business side of dance(60:00) Building a strong social media presence(65:00) Advice for older dancers and overcoming comparisons(70:00) The importance of persistence and passion(75:00) Closing thoughts on staying true to your journeyBiography:Vanessa Fuller is a dancer, choreographer, and artistic director originally from Eugene, OR. She is the artistic director of Xcape Dance Company, where she has produced 10 full-length shows. Her dance and choreography have graced the stages of Club Jeté—LA's premier dance experience—and concerts from New York to California with artists such as E-40, Twista, The Game, Bone Thugz-N-Harmony, Zion I, and E.T. She has also worked on industrial projects for NAPA Auto Parts, Build San Francisco, the Qwest Events Center in Seattle, and Rockstar Energy Drink. She was a winning contestant on CBS’s Let’s Make a Deal with Wayne Brady. Vanessa and her dance company filmed a casting pilot for MTV’s Made, a regional commercial, print ads for the University of Oregon, and have been featured performers in various professional events. Vanessa's choreography has won numerous awards at competitions and conventions and has won the JIGTV Brian Friedman Video Choreography Critique Contest at www.jigtv.com! Most recently, Vanessa was a dancer in the Emmy-nominated production of DanceAbility on Art Beat for OPB and choreographer and dancer for the headlining performance at the World Track and Field Festival sponsored by ASICS.Vanessa’s training background includes hip-hop, jazz funk, and contemporary. She has trained at EDGE PAC (Los Angeles), Millennium Dance Complex (North Hollywood), Dance Mission (San Francisco), Monsters of Hip Hop, and master workshops with some of the best in the industry.Connect on Social Media:https://www.instagram.com/vanessafullerdancehttps://www.facebook.com/vanessafullerdanceWebsitehttps://xcapedance.my.canva.site/vanessafullerdance
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  • 97- Jacquelyn Long: Houston Ballet Soloist
    Interview Date: May 11th, 2025Houston Ballet soloist Jacquelyn Long traces her path from living-room pliés with her mom (a former pro) to summer intensives, HBII, and the main company. She shares how relationships and coachability shaped her trajectory, why modern/contemporary versatility now matters as much as classical technique, and how social media helps—but shouldn’t replace—the messy, vital process. We dig into audition materials, the “right” photos, favorite roles (Sylvia! Cinderella!), life as a working ballerina (weekly schedule, contracts, AGMA, benefits), pointe-shoe realities, nerves and mindset, longevity habits, and her growing passion for choreography. Plus: where to see her onstage next and practical encouragement for dancers finding their own path.Show Notes:(0:41) - Intro & bio; welcome Jacquelyn Long (2:20) - How she started; early training at home (2:24) - Mom steps back; Janina trains until 11 (3:14) - Houston Ballet intensives begin at 14 (5:31) - “Go where you’re liked” scholarships lesson (6:49) - Relationships, coachability, work ethic matter(12:20) - Be versatile: modern/contemporary equals ballet (14:03) - Social media’s role; process over perfection (16:03) - Audition toolkit: video, resume, show both styles (18:49) - Best photos: true headshot, first arabesque (20:32) - Favorite roles; Sylvia, Cinderella, new premieres (22:21) - Business mindset: many paths, trust timing (25:38) - Next chapter: choreography alongside performing (45:16) - Contracts, AGMA, pay cadence, key benefits(54:55) - Pointe shoes: custom Bloch, company-paid(57:46) - Final advice; where to see Houston BalletBiography:Jacquelyn Long began her ballet training under the direction of her mother, Suzanne Lownsbury, and Janina Michalski at Ballet Virginia. In 2010, she joined Houston Ballet II (HBII). After two years in the second company, Jacquelyn joined Houston Ballet as a Corps de Ballet member in 2012. Ms. Long was promoted to Soloist in 2016.Ms. Long has performed leading roles such as the title role in Stanton Welch's Sylvia; Hermia in John Neumeier’s A Midsummer Night’s Dream; Gamzatti in Stanton Welch’s La Bayadère; Myrtha in Stanton Welch’s Giselle; Sugar Plum Fairy and Clara in Stanton Welch’s The Nutcracker; Valencienne in Ronald Hynd’s The Merry Widow; Carabosse and Princess Florine in Ben Stevenson's The Sleeping Beauty; Snow Queen in Ben Stevenson's The Nutcracker; Miranda in Stanton Welch's Romeo and Juliet.  She has also danced featured roles in George Balanchine’s Serenade, Emeralds, Concerto Barocco, and Symphony in C; Jiří Kylián's Stepping Stones, Dreamtime, and Wings of Wax; Justin Peck's Year of the Rabbit and Under the Folding Sky; William Forsythe’s Artifact Suite and In the middle somewhat elevated; Jorma Elo's ONE/end/ONE; Jerome Robbin’s Fancy Free; Stanton Welch's Divergence, Paquita, Velocity, Maninyas, Tapestry, and Son of Chamber Symphony.Ms. Long was also featured in the Dancer's Spotlight of the 2013 October/November issue of Pointe Magazine and in the 2013 February issue of Dance Spirit Magazine.Connect on Social Media:Website - https://www.houstonballet.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jac_long/
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  • 96- Josh Horner: DWTS Australia Judge, ‘Billy Elliot’ (Broadway) & Disney Creative
    Interview Date: May 4th, 2025Episode Summary:Australian dancer–choreographer–TV judge Joshua Horner traces his wildly diverse path: asthma kid → Australian Ballet soloist → West End lead in Movin’ Out → Broadway’s Billy Elliot → Disney creative in Los Angeles → Dancing With The Stars judge → reality-TV creator → and finally, a show-stopping pivot into real estate where he sells homes with full theatrical flair. Along the way he unpacks visas, networking that pays off a decade later, audition tactics, standing out without gimmicks, why technique still wins, and how to future-proof a dance career with bravery, focus, and business sense. The Q&A dives into agents in Australia, cruise-ship hustles, concert vs. commercial dance choices, and breaking into BroadwayShownotes:(0:00) — Roll call, cameras on, global intros(0:59) — Guest intro: multi-market career highlights(3:21) — Asthma leads Josh into dance(6:12) — Australian Ballet School, company contract(6:37) — Dirty Dancing understudy; Twyla Tharp notice(7:59) — London West End lead, green card plan(8:59) — Broadway debut, Billy Elliot & Tony Awards(18:05) — Disney dream: 10-year networking seed blooms(23:32) — DWTS judge role; weekly LA–Australia commute(26:03) — Reality TV pilot; shifting industry landscape(28:14 )— Breakup with dance, pivot to real estate(30:26)— Viral listings: showgirls, humor, entertainment(34:48) — Q&A: agents, cruise ships, hustling tips(45:20) — Career crossroads: commercial vs. contemporary dance(59:14) — Final advice: technique, smarts, braveryBiography:Ladies and gentlemen, meet Josh Horner – the former dance floor dynamo, Disneyland's creative wizard, and the unforgettable judge on Dancing With The Stars! Now back in his hometown, Josh is lighting up real estate with The Horner Agency and his iconic gnome sidekick. Forget record-breaking sales—it's his viral videos that have buyers and vendors lining up, all because the JOY is real with this guy! With a knack for connecting and a flair for fun, every deal with Josh is a showstopper. Get ready to experience real estate like never before!Connect on Social Media:Website - ⁠thehorneragency.comInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/joshuajhorner/
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  • 95- Julie Mcdonald: MSA Co-Founder, First Dance Agent & Industry Trailblazer Honored at Gala of the Stars
    Interview Date: September 21st, 2025Episode Summary:In this inspiring conversation, Menina Fortunato sits down with Julie McDonald, the trailblazing co-founder of MSA Agency and the first dance agent in history. Julie shares her incredible journey from professional dancer to industry visionary—representing some of the biggest names in choreography and performance.She reflects on the evolution of the commercial dance world, the importance of professionalism and preparation, and what truly sets apart dancers who build lasting careers. Julie offers invaluable advice on networking, auditions, and why knowing your dance history—from Bob Fosse to Jerome Robbins—is essential for any serious artist.From agency insight to mentorship, this episode is filled with stories, wisdom, and warmth from a woman who changed the industry for dancers everywhere. Julie also shares exciting news about being honored with the Trailblazer Award at Gala of the Stars—a full-circle moment for one of dance’s greatest advocates.This episode is perfect for dancers, teachers, and aspiring professionals who want to understand the business behind dance, the art of longevity, and the power of curiosity and gratitude in shaping a meaningful career.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome & intro to Julie McDonald and her legacy (3:15) – Julie’s start as a dancer & transition into agency life (7:40) – Founding MSA: creating the first dance agency in the world(12:25) – Representing choreographers, dancers & industry icons(22:10) – What makes a dancer stand out to an agent(35:05) – How the dance industry evolved through the decades (50:12) – Advice: professionalism, mindset, and consistency (1:13:05) – Julie’s message: know your dance history & icons (1:16:16) – Gala of the Stars — Julie honored with Trailblazer Award(1:16:57) – Closing: gratitude, selfies, and inspiration for young dancersBiography:Julie McDonald is the visionary co-owner of McDonald Selznick Associates (MSA) and a trailblazer in dance and choreography representation. In 1985, she launched the first talent agency devoted exclusively to dance, setting a new standard for advocacy, professionalism, and artistic excellence in the industry.From the outset, Julie championed fair terms and improved working conditions for dancers and choreographers, tirelessly promoting the visibility and integrity of commercial dance. In 2000, she joined forces with Tony Selznick to found MSA, which today represents a roster of award‑winning talent. Her clients have earned Emmy, Tony, MTV, and MTV Awards—while leading the creative teams behind Broadway hits, Las Vegas spectaculars, high‑profile films, television dramas, sitcoms, and major awards shows (Emmy, Grammy, Oscar).A dedicated collaborator and industry visionary, Julie co‑created the American Choreography Awards (1994–2004), celebrating excellence in dance across media. Her pioneering work has been recognized with Lifetime Achievement Awards from both the Choreographers Carnival and McCallum’s Choreography Festival.Through her ongoing projects and continued leadership at MSA, Julie McDonald remains a powerful force in shaping the future of dance, honoring its past, and empowering the artists who bring it to life.Connect on Social Media:Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/juliemcdonaldmsa/
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